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Yorkshiredoughboy Jul 25th 2022 4:18 am

E-sim
 
E-sims:

I don’t want to remove my US SIM card, I want to use an Esim and use my US number for cell only, and then use the Esim for UK data, is it possible to do this?

Appreciate anyone who’s got experience with this?

yes my phone is unlocked and I could just disconnect from US life for a few weeks but that’s not reasonable.

Thanks.

tht Jul 25th 2022 4:22 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by Yorkshiredoughboy (Post 13130954)
E-sims:

I don’t want to remove my US SIM card, I want to use an Esim and use my US number for cell only, and then use the Esim for UK data, is it possible to do this?

Appreciate anyone who’s got experience with this?

yes my phone is unlocked and I could just disconnect from US life for a few weeks but that’s not reasonable.

Thanks.


Should be doable with a dual sim iPhone. You can select which SIM to use for data. You can also select 1 data line or allow switching. You can set default voice line so you us the local one.

Yorkshiredoughboy Jul 25th 2022 4:26 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 13130957)
Should be doable with a dual sim iPhone. You can select which SIM to use for data. You can also select 1 data line or allow switching. You can set default voice line so you us the local one.

Thank you. Ive read some folks having trouble with their attempts. I have the 12 pro max. It is capable just haven’t tried yet.

tht Jul 25th 2022 7:01 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by Yorkshiredoughboy (Post 13130959)
Thank you. Ive read some folks having trouble with their attempts. I have the 12 pro max. It is capable just haven’t tried yet.

I have a 12 Pro, have not done international, but have 2 US sims in mine.

Yorkshiredoughboy Jul 26th 2022 7:22 pm

Re: E-sim
 
So it looks like every E-sim I've looked at only allows Data and not cell, I'm assuming I can still make calls over the internet with just data but I've never tried so I may be going in blind on this one.

tht Jul 27th 2022 10:25 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by Yorkshiredoughboy (Post 13131276)
So it looks like every E-sim I've looked at only allows Data and not cell, I'm assuming I can still make calls over the internet with just data but I've never tried so I may be going in blind on this one.

You can make calls like what’s app or FaceTime over data, but WiFi calling won’t work unless your on WiFi (not LTE) so you can’t avoid roaming charges like that…

Yorkshiredoughboy Jul 27th 2022 11:18 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 13131443)
You can make calls like what’s app or FaceTime over data, but WiFi calling won’t work unless your on WiFi (not LTE) so you can’t avoid roaming charges like that…

That’s what I thought. First time messing around with it.

The real emphasis is on not paying $10 a day to verizon for two weeks times three phones.

Olly_ Jul 27th 2022 11:23 am

Re: E-sim
 
Actually you can if you have an iPhone...

You just have to either disable international roaming with AT&T/Verizon or use manual network selection to force your phone onto a network that they don't have a roaming agreement with. Your phone will then use data from the other SIM for "WiFi" calling and you can make/receive calls for free while abroad.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...5e09e92f08.png

Yorkshiredoughboy Jul 27th 2022 12:17 pm

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by Olly_ (Post 13131453)
Actually you can if you have an iPhone...

You just have to either disable international roaming with AT&T/Verizon or use manual network selection to force your phone onto a network that they don't have a roaming agreement with. Your phone will then use data from the other SIM for "WiFi" calling and you can make/receive calls for free while abroad.

Thanks. I have the Esim configured but not turned on yet, will switch it on when we land and see what happens. :)

tht Jul 27th 2022 3:43 pm

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by Olly_ (Post 13131453)
Actually you can if you have an iPhone...

You just have to either disable international roaming with AT&T/Verizon or use manual network selection to force your phone onto a network that they don't have a roaming agreement with. Your phone will then use data from the other SIM for "WiFi" calling and you can make/receive calls for free while abroad.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...5e09e92f08.png

Very interesting… do you have “WiFi assist” on?


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...dfc27c773.jpeg

If this works it’s a much cleaner solution than the one I used for India before I had a dual sim phone. I had a Glocalme WiFi hotspot I would carry with me and then have the phone connect to that when away from office/hotel and turn off roaming and WiFi calling on.

Olly_ Jul 28th 2022 1:10 am

Re: E-sim
 
I do but that setting doesn't control WiFi calling.

As long as the US SIM has no cell service it'll fail over to WiFi calling via the other (local) SIM - I've used it on multiple trips abroad now and it works perfectly. It was a new feature added in iOS 13 I think...

SpoogleDrummer Jul 28th 2022 5:19 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by Yorkshiredoughboy (Post 13131276)
So it looks like every E-sim I've looked at only allows Data and not cell, I'm assuming I can still make calls over the internet with just data but I've never tried so I may be going in blind on this one.

I was under the impression you'd just get a sim in the UK and convert it to an e-sim. When I got my phone last month they upgraded the wrong line and it was e-sim only so it had the wrong number. I put my old sim into it, it was instantly recognised. I then deleted the e-sim and converted my physical sim to an e-sim for good measure.

Yorkshiredoughboy Jul 28th 2022 5:47 am

Re: E-sim
 

Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 13131558)
I was under the impression you'd just get a sim in the UK and convert it to an e-sim. When I got my phone last month they upgraded the wrong line and it was e-sim only so it had the wrong number. I put my old sim into it, it was instantly recognised. I then deleted the e-sim and converted my physical sim to an e-sim for good measure.

Maybe, wasn't sure, so I went this route, will use data calling and explore other options for next time.


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