Driving in MO
Jul 25th 2017, 6:34 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
I agree. To avoid any doubt with police or insurers do the test, get the license and you know for sure you are in the clear. Nothing to lose and lots (potentially) to gain.
Jul 25th 2017, 7:29 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
You're new here, aren't you! 
Generally speaking you can drive almost any vehicle on a UK in the short term with the permission of the owner. I did so as a visitor before I got married. Things may become less clear after the cut-off date for becoming a deemed resident of the state. The problem you face is that most students are from other US states and are exempt from obtaining an in-state licence so long as they maintain a permanent residence in the home state, but how this applies to a non-US student with a non-US license is likely not clear.
Honestly, if you've driven for a few years in the UK, get a little practice here, just a week or two, then go take the test! So long as you aren't obviously a danger to yourself or others, stop at STOP signs and red lights, and don't run over more than one pedestrian, you'll have no problem with the road test. I do recommend that you download a copy of the drivers manual from the DMV site and read through it, paying attention to limits and penalties for drunk driving, and rules for school buses and other odd things that might be asked in the "written" (computer) test.
Generally speaking you can drive almost any vehicle on a UK in the short term with the permission of the owner. I did so as a visitor before I got married. Things may become less clear after the cut-off date for becoming a deemed resident of the state. The problem you face is that most students are from other US states and are exempt from obtaining an in-state licence so long as they maintain a permanent residence in the home state, but how this applies to a non-US student with a non-US license is likely not clear.
Honestly, if you've driven for a few years in the UK, get a little practice here, just a week or two, then go take the test! So long as you aren't obviously a danger to yourself or others, stop at STOP signs and red lights, and don't run over more than one pedestrian, you'll have no problem with the road test. I do recommend that you download a copy of the drivers manual from the DMV site and read through it, paying attention to limits and penalties for drunk driving, and rules for school buses and other odd things that might be asked in the "written" (computer) test.
Yeah, it's obvious isn't it!
Okay cool! We just wanted me to be able to drive her car around a good few times to get used to automatic, other side of road and car, and the rules of the road here. I mean, in a couple of weeks I will take the test, it was just for the meantime I was checking for if anything. Thanks for the info! I've already through the MO drivers guide etc.
Jul 25th 2017, 7:57 pm
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Yeah, it's obvious isn't it!
Okay cool! We just wanted me to be able to drive her car around a good few times to get used to automatic, other side of road and car, and the rules of the road here. I mean, in a couple of weeks I will take the test, it was just for the meantime I was checking for if anything. Thanks for the info! I've already through the MO drivers guide etc.
Okay cool! We just wanted me to be able to drive her car around a good few times to get used to automatic, other side of road and car, and the rules of the road here. I mean, in a couple of weeks I will take the test, it was just for the meantime I was checking for if anything. Thanks for the info! I've already through the MO drivers guide etc.
Jul 26th 2017, 2:52 am
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Re: Driving in MO
I think you are good for 30 days if you are a MO resident. Traffic is easy here, don't sweat it, if you fail go back the next day and try again
Jul 26th 2017, 6:25 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
Maste - I forget which visa you are on. Is it J1? Do you get a social security number with that?
Jul 26th 2017, 6:49 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
No he doesn't - that's not what the linked page says - the "184 days" relates to expired out of state licenses. .... I looked a good bit and didn't find anything on the MO DMV website about swapping your license, only that you have 30 days after you arrive to register your vehicle in MO.
I would guess that you also have 30 days to swap your license, but students are generally exempt from the requirement to swap their license IF they only live in the state temporarily i.e. while studying. Just because they are "exempt" doesn't prevent them getting an in-state license if they want one.
I would guess that you also have 30 days to swap your license, but students are generally exempt from the requirement to swap their license IF they only live in the state temporarily i.e. while studying. Just because they are "exempt" doesn't prevent them getting an in-state license if they want one.
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Jul 26th 2017, 7:03 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
No he doesn't - that's not what the linked page says - the "184 days" relates to expired out of state licenses. .... I looked a good bit and didn't find anything on the MO DMV website about swapping your license, only that you have 30 days after you arrive to register your vehicle in MO.
I would guess that you also have 30 days to swap your license, but students are generally exempt from the requirement to swap their license IF they only live in the state temporarily i.e. while studying. Just because they are "exempt" doesn't prevent them getting an in-state license if they want one.
I would guess that you also have 30 days to swap your license, but students are generally exempt from the requirement to swap their license IF they only live in the state temporarily i.e. while studying. Just because they are "exempt" doesn't prevent them getting an in-state license if they want one.
good catch!
I was having a look through the manual http://dor.mo.gov/forms/Driver%20Guide.pdf#page=9
chapter 1
"
Certain persons are not required to obtain a Missouri driver license. You do
not need a Missouri driver license if:
• You are a member of the armed forces and you have a valid driver
license from your home state.
• You are a full-time student and you have a valid driver license from your
home state.
• You operate or temporarily operate/move any farm tractor or implement
on a highway for agri-related purposes.
You are required to carry your driver license or permit when you drive. If
any law enforcement officer asks to see your driver license or permit, you
must present it. It is against the law for you to allow anyone else to use
your license or permit."
Maste is a full time student?
also - he doesn't need a social security number with a J visa even if he does need/want to get a drivers license
page 11
"NOTE: If you are a nonimmigrant foreign student, who is not
authorized to work in the United States, submission of a status
letter from the SSA is not required. (You or your dependents
immigration document MUST reflect an F or a J classification).
•"
Jul 26th 2017, 7:04 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
No he doesn't - that's not what the linked page says - the "184 days" relates to expired out of state licenses. .... I looked a good bit and didn't find anything on the MO DMV website about swapping your license, only that you have 30 days after you arrive to register your vehicle in MO.
I would guess that you also have 30 days to swap your license, but students are generally exempt from the requirement to swap their license IF they only live in the state temporarily i.e. while studying. Just because they are "exempt" doesn't prevent them getting an in-state license if they want one.
I would guess that you also have 30 days to swap your license, but students are generally exempt from the requirement to swap their license IF they only live in the state temporarily i.e. while studying. Just because they are "exempt" doesn't prevent them getting an in-state license if they want one.
Jul 26th 2017, 7:06 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
good catch!
I was having a look through the manual http://dor.mo.gov/forms/Driver%20Guide.pdf#page=9
chapter 1
"
Certain persons are not required to obtain a Missouri driver license. You do
not need a Missouri driver license if:
• You are a member of the armed forces and you have a valid driver
license from your home state.
• You are a full-time student and you have a valid driver license from your
home state.
• You operate or temporarily operate/move any farm tractor or implement
on a highway for agri-related purposes.
You are required to carry your driver license or permit when you drive. If
any law enforcement officer asks to see your driver license or permit, you
must present it. It is against the law for you to allow anyone else to use
your license or permit."
Maste is a full time student?
also - he doesn't need a social security number with a J visa even if he does need/want to get a drivers license
page 11
"NOTE: If you are a nonimmigrant foreign student, who is not
authorized to work in the United States, submission of a status
letter from the SSA is not required. (You or your dependents
immigration document MUST reflect an F or a J classification).
•"
Thank you for taking the time out to read the thing through for me! It's a great help. So would the UK 'technically' class as my home state? It's all very wishy washy and confusing!
Jul 26th 2017, 7:18 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
.....It's all very wishy washy and confusing!
Jul 26th 2017, 7:18 pm
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Re: Driving in MO
there is the option of emailing the dmv to ask.
However, I would get a driver's license if you can and it looks like you can. It's great to use as ID in bars etc and it's very cheap to get one.
Jul 29th 2017, 1:34 am
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Don't know - In the US context "home state" was likely written to mean "a different state in the US" - as if you move state in the US you are generally required to get the licence of the new state within a certain time frame. An American would have probably written "home country" or "home state or country" to mean overseas. Two nations separated by a common language etc etc etc.
While it is very, very likely you have a grace period on the UK licence, I would contact them to ask if this clause exempts you from needing a MO licence completely.
As well, unfortunately for you forget about MO resident grad tuition, though I know you brought that up in jest. Some state universities have a clause that says even out-of-staters in grad school get in-state tuition after a year, I would bet that only applies to US Citizens and Permanent Residents. But perhaps worth it to see if something similar is buried in your university's financial aid policy somewhere and if you can benefit.
Jul 29th 2017, 3:05 am
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Re: Driving in MO
are you married? is she/he earning money?
apparently F1 visa is non-resident alien until you've been here 5 years.
Missouri Residency Requirements // Office of the Registrar // University of Missouri
you'll have to get the driver's license too.
apparently F1 visa is non-resident alien until you've been here 5 years.
Missouri Residency Requirements // Office of the Registrar // University of Missouri
you'll have to get the driver's license too.
