Double Tax
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Double Tax
Hey guys, hope you are all well. Just getting ready to make the jump over to start my new life. Quick question regarding tax in the UK and the US. So my employment will be in the US and salaried there of course, straight forward. Where I seem to be reading conflicting information is around the 2 homes I will rent out back in the UK. Will I need to pay tax in the US for these or in both countries? I think I have went down a rabbit hole and spun myself but would appreciate any advice from people here.
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Please take a look at this very recent thread, which I think answers all your questions and more, but in short, unless you are planning to return to the UK in future to live, and not become a US citizen, which would commit you permanently to pay US taxes no matter where in the world you live, you would be well advised to sell up now to avoid the tax issues and some potentially large tax bills if you ever decide to sell the properties.
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Thanks Pulaski. Say for my situation I was to go for a 5 year dance in the US and wanted to keep them as a safety net or return option, how does it work in terms of the rental outcome I will get from them? They just cover my mortgage payments and no more and could not get my head around being double taxed for them in both countries.
Appreciate the response.
Appreciate the response.
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Thanks Pulaski. Say for my situation I was to go for a 5 year dance in the US and wanted to keep them as a safety net or return option, how does it work in terms of the rental outcome I will get from them? They just cover my mortgage payments and no more and could not get my head around being double taxed for them in both countries. .....
* US income tax on rentals is lower because you can deduct pretty much everything you spend from your rental income - repairs, maintenance, management fees, insurance, property taxes (if any), advertizing, legal fees, etc., and you even deduct depreciation (that is mandatory, not optional) at a rate of 2.5% per year, (straight line depreciation over 40 years) on the value of the building (but not the land), where a typical estimate of the building value would be 80% of the value of the total property, adjusted for higher value of land closer to a city center or perhaps zero if the land is leased not owned e.g. for a flat.
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Re: Double Tax
Appreciate the advice. So it would be in my best interests to go as is then considering I am not looking at this as a full time move? I guess maybe further down the line I might love it and go for the green card and can cross other bridges when/if I come to them.
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Appreciate the advice. So it would be in my best interests to go as is then considering I am not looking at this as a full time move? I guess maybe further down the line I might love it and go for the green card and can cross other bridges when/if I come to them. ....
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Yes, just be aware that getting a green card, could make selling the properties very expensive, with resepct to capital gains taxes, and that Uncle Sam taxes capital gains from your date of purchase, not from when you became subject to US taxes, and doesn't have indexation allowance either. From a tax perspective, owning the properties until you die will become a good tax strategy as your heirs will get a "free uplift" to market value, under both the (current) US and UK tax regimes.
Capital gains above the purchase price or on the whole amount regardless?
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There is also the possibility under the US tax code to roll-over a taxable gain into a "similar" property using a "1031 exchange".
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Re: Double Tax
I'm in the situation of being a USC living in the UK. Selling US shares each year is similar, I must use the exchange rate on the dates of purchase and sale to determine the capital gain in £s.
Last edited by durham_lad; Jun 16th 2020 at 3:09 pm.
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I think it is capital gains tax against the purchase price. You have to use something like xe.com to look up historical exchange rates to determine the $ value of the house purchased then again on the date it is sold. If the exchange rates go in the wrong direction you find a much larger capital gain than you might expect. .....
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Geez
Remind me to never even consider a rental property as an investment strategy and to stick with the stock market!
Remind me to never even consider a rental property as an investment strategy and to stick with the stock market!
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The current climate will abate, like it always does (and BTW, the DOW & S&P 500 have nearly reversed their losses from this year)
I have 30 years, at least. to retirement, so I am not worried about it for the here and now. Despite it's issues, the US economy is fundamentally strong.
I have 30 years, at least. to retirement, so I am not worried about it for the here and now. Despite it's issues, the US economy is fundamentally strong.
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Hey guys, hope you are all well. Just getting ready to make the jump over to start my new life. Quick question regarding tax in the UK and the US. So my employment will be in the US and salaried there of course, straight forward. Where I seem to be reading conflicting information is around the 2 homes I will rent out back in the UK. Will I need to pay tax in the US for these or in both countries? I think I have went down a rabbit hole and spun myself but would appreciate any advice from people here.
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