karen86

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if anyone thinks their nationality is effecting their processing time. From most messages I've read, it seems like most Canadians (with a few exceptions) are getting approved really quickly. I'm beginning to wonder whether the fact that mine still has not been approved has anything to do with the fact that I'm a Turkish citizen.

The reason I think this is that every single time I travel, I get 'randomly selected' to go through every single extra security check there is. (Even though Turkey is a democratic, modern and secular country, a friend and ally of the US and has the second largest troops in NATO! But nobody knows about this stuff, all they know about Turkey is that it's located in the so called 'Middle East')

ANyway, it's a really frustrating thought, but does anyone feel the same way and what are your experiences about this??

Thanks
karen1

Ranjini

Karen, that's a misconception. It just appears that Canadians are getting approved quickly, because there are a lot of Canadians (and Brits too!!) on this forum.
All application are treated on a "first come first served" basis. So you can stop worrying about that.
Ranjini

Paul

NO, it's not a "misconception"! Read the whole thread about "K visas not being
issued at posts" this is certainly not happening in Canada or the UK! I love how
people on top say it's all the same and fine and dandy. People from Canada and UK do
not have a clue about the other consulates. Only how great theirs is. (sorry
.....but reality check?)


"Ranjini" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    :
    : Originally posted by karen86:
    : > Hi everyone,
    : >
    : > I'm wondering if anyone thinks their nationality is effecting
their
    : > processing time. From most messages I've read, it seems like
most
    : > Canadians (with a few exceptions) are getting approved really
quickly.
    : > I'm beginning to wonder whether the fact that mine still has
not been
    : > approved has anything to do with the fact that I'm a Turkish
citizen.
    : >
    : > Thanks karen1
    :
    : Karen, that's a misconception. It just appears that Canadians
are
    : getting approved quickly, because there are a lot of Canadians
(and
    : Brits too!!) on this forum. All application are treated on a "first come
    : first served"
basis. So you
    : can stop worrying about that. Ranjini
    :
    : --
    : Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    :

Steve

"People on top"?

First of all, I've been checked by customs and immigration coming into the US
every time without fail, and I'm an American! As far as that goes, nationality
doesn't matter.

Where it does count is this: One possibility might come down to "perception". There
are certain countries who have a spotted reputation for legal and illegal immigration
into the US...Russia, China, the Phillipines, south-east Asia. "Mail-order brides",
and so-forth. Right or wrong, the perception is there. Now don't get me wrong, I'm
not saying that ANYONE here, past or present, is doing something illegal or "bending
the law". What I am saying is that there are countries, and by extension CITIZENS of
countries, who the INS (and whoever else gets involved) will look over more carefully
than others. Because of this close scrutiny, the backlog grows quicker. I mean come
on, you don't hear about thousands of illegal Canadians or Western Europeans flooding
the borders.

You also have to remember that there is foreign policy involved. Bubba Dubya now has
to face off against Russia, because Russia just signed a huge trade deal with Iraq -
while Dubya wants a war with Iraq. Tell me that didn't just complicated matters,
especially for you and yours. I hope you weren't naive enough to think that politics
didn't play a part. Think of this: would any of this be going on if Clinton were
still in office? What would be happening now if someone else - ANYONE else - were
elected? Foreign policy would be different, embassies and consulates would take on
the policy of the president of the time. I'm willing to bet that prior to 2000,
Moscow wasn't as bogged down and inefficient as now.

As far as Karen goes, my first question prior to claiming victimization would have
been "when did she apply?"

Just my opinion. Total cost: $.02. The check is in the mail.

rogerpenycate

Wrong......
That doesn't mean that we don't care what happens to folks
who don't happen to be from Canada or (like me) the UK
Believe me, many of us read a lot of the posts whether they are related to our own circumstances or not.
A few try to offer some halp and advice but most of the time we can't because your situation is different.
That doesn't mean we aren't interested and pleased when we see a posting from someone (outside of Canada or the UK)
who gets their visa.

I really don't think there is an attitude of
I'VE GOT MINE NOW YOU GET YOURS
To a degree we are all in this together with a common goal.
I've read most of your posts/threads and can appreciate how
stressful it is for you. I've been there and so have/or are
99% of the posters on here.

Also, I'm not sure about being on top.
I haven't been on top of my wife for nearly 4 months ;o)

karen86

Hey everyone,

I didn't mean to suggest that anything like that.. I reallly don't have any problem with anybody gettin approved before me. We definitely are all in this together. It just seemed like there are major inconsistencies in people's timelienes that makes me really doubt whether applications are being processed on a 'first come first serve' basis. And I was wondering what 's behind this inconsistency?

There are people who get approved in 2 months, and people who wait 8 months for their second NOA. What do you make of that, is what I was asking?

My timeline:
I-130 sent on March 9
First NOA: March 21
Nothing after that.

Karen

Paul

Yeah this has nothing to do with the world trade center bombings/rumblings.....or are
implying this happened because "Dubya" is in office? That MUST be it. ABL wouldn't do
such a thing if Clinton were there. They'd be talking about how they whip it out in
the oval office and get away with it. :O) But nobody is concerned about the integrity
of someone in office anymore. It doesn't matter who's doin' who.....just as long as
we all make money. A few of us still have morals and want what is right (and just). A
different pace from the good ole Clinton years. After September 11th everything took
a dumb. This certainly is "Dubya's" fault so he will won't be around in a few years.
(not reelected)

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we did some deals with the dirty
Iraqis to give them an economy but I'd be very scared to see where the money went.
(just like RU......who has fixed pricing across the board and will never evolve with
that going on)

And if you have info on RU's illegal immigration...enlighten us. I've never heard of
anything like this about them. Only how the bastards came from Saudi.


"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    : "People on top"?
    :
    : First of all, I've been checked by customs and immigration
coming into the
    : US every time without fail, and I'm an American! As far as
that goes,
    : nationality doesn't matter.
    :
    : Where it does count is this: One possibility might come down
to
    : "perception". There are certain countries who have a spotted
reputation for
    : legal and illegal immigration into the US...Russia, China, the
Phillipines,
    : south-east Asia. "Mail-order brides", and so-forth. Right or
wrong, the
    : perception is there. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying
that ANYONE
    : here, past or present, is doing something illegal or "bending
the law".
    : What I am saying is that there are countries, and by extension
CITIZENS of
    : countries, who the INS (and whoever else gets involved) will
look over more
    : carefully than others. Because of this close scrutiny, the
backlog grows
    : quicker. I mean come on, you don't hear about thousands of
illegal
    : Canadians or Western Europeans flooding the borders.
    :
    : You also have to remember that there is foreign policy
involved. Bubba
    : Dubya now has to face off against Russia, because Russia just
signed a huge
    : trade deal with Iraq - while Dubya wants a war with Iraq. Tell
me that
    : didn't just complicated matters, especially for you and yours.
I hope you
    : weren't naive enough to think that politics didn't play a part.
Think of
    : this: would any of this be going on if Clinton were still in
office? What
    : would be happening now if someone else - ANYONE else - were
elected?
    : Foreign policy would be different, embassies and consulates
would take on
    : the policy of the president of the time. I'm willing to bet
that prior to
    : 2000, Moscow wasn't as bogged down and inefficient as now.
    :
    : As far as Karen goes, my first question prior to claiming
victimization
    : would have been "when did she apply?"
    :
    : Just my opinion. Total cost: $.02. The check is in the mail.
    :
    :

Paul

I would find it very interesting to find the avg time from filing to visa in hand for
Canadians, those from UK, and the dead in the water Moscow. Especially from July '02.
I think there seems to be quite a contrast. Again, especially if you filed in TSC or
VSC compared to NSC. So when I say on top. I mean someone filing in TSC or VSC from
UK or Canada.....compared to some of us filing in NSC (MSC) and dealing with Moscow.
I sincerely believe there is quite a contrast here, and that is the real annoying
part. It isn't the same for someone filing in TX, CA, NE, and the consulates are all
different too. You can see everyone who filed at NSC (rightfully) bitching. They seem
to be moving at the same pace as Moscow. If anyone has this data .....pls post it.
    :O) Again, it's all the differences in the system that really bite!


"rogerpenycate" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    :
    : Wrong...... That doesn't mean that we don't care what happens to folks who don't
    : happen to be from Canada or (like me) the UK Believe me, many of us read a lot of
    : the posts whether they are
related
    : to our own circumstances or not. A few try to offer some halp and advice but most
    : of the time we
can't
    : because your situation is different. That doesn't mean we aren't interested and
    : pleased when we see
a posting
    : from someone (outside of Canada or the UK) who gets their visa.
    :
    : I really don't think there is an attitude of I'VE GOT MINE NOW YOU GET YOURS To a
    : degree we are all in this together with a common goal. I've read most of your
    : posts/threads and can appreciate how stressful it is for you. I've been there and
    : so have/or are 99% of the posters on here.
    :
    : Also, I'm not sure about being on top. I haven't been on top of my wife for nearly
    : 4 months ;o)
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : Originally posted by Paul:
    : > NO, it's not a "misconception"! Read the whole thread about
"K visas
    : > not being issued at posts" this is certainly not happening in Canada or
the UK!
    : > I love how peopleon top say it's all the same and fine and dandy. People
from
    : > Canada and UK do not have a clue about the other consulates. Only how great
theirs is.
    : > (sorry .....but reality check?)
    : >
    : >
    : > "Ranjini" wrote in message
    : > news:388961.1029677151@b-
    : > ritishexpats.comnews:388961.1029677151@britishexpa ts.com...
    : > :
    : > : Originally posted by karen86:
    : > : > Hi everyone,
    : > : >
    : > : > I'm wondering if anyone thinks their nationality is
effecting
    : > their
    : > : > processing time. From most messages I've read, it seems
like
    : > most
    : > : > Canadians (with a few exceptions) are getting approved
really
    : > quickly.
    : > : > I'm beginning to wonder whether the fact that mine still
has
    : > not been
    : > : > approved has anything to do with the fact that I'm a
Turkish
    : > citizen.
    : > : >
    : > : > Thanks karen1
    : > :
    : > : Karen, that's a misconception. It just appears that
Canadians
    : > are
    : > : getting approved quickly, because there are a lot of
Canadians
    : > (and
    : > : Brits too!!) on this forum. All application are treated on
a "first
    : > : come first served"
    : > basis. So you
    : > : can stop worrying about that. Ranjini
    : > :
    : > : --
    : > : Posted via
http://britishexpats.com/ht-
tp://britishexpats.com
    : > :
    :
    : --
    : Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    :

rogerpenycate

Paul,
You seem to keep cutting/pasting my replies and then going into one.
PLease read my post and try to get it into your head what I have said.
We are on your side and empathisize with you, so why slag off
the posters on here that are trying to help you ?

Ranjini

It is possible that the IBIS checks etc. are delaying processing at consulates. It may also be necessary to look at beneficiaries more closely for security reasons, in certain countries. Visa fraud is rampant at certain consulates. These consulates have good reason to look at beneficiaries more closely. But I don't believe Turkey is being singled out simply because they could kind of be "middle-eastern". As Karen herself pointed out Turkey is considered a friend of the US. The consulates are not doing security checks in an arbitrary fashion, I'm sure. I'm sure very clear guidelines have been laid down in these areas.
Ranjini

rogerpenycate

Sorry,
I wasn't replying to your posting.
I was replying to Paul's

Harry

A lot of it does seem luck of the draw...what service center you are using then where you are from (i.e. what consulate you will be using). I was unlucky on the first count...TSC was WAAAAAY slow when my sweetie filed the I-129F for me...it took 121 days and that was fast for that period, then I was extremely lucky to be going through London. About the "those on top" comment, believe me I wasn't ignorant at all about how lucky I was to be going through the London embassy...in fact there wasn't a day I didn't thank God that I wasn't using an embassy like those in Africa or India.

-Harry

Paul

What do you mean cutting/pasting?


"rogerpenycate" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    :
    : Paul, You seem to keep cutting/pasting my replies and then going into
one.
    : PLease read my post and try to get it into your head what I
have said.
    : We are on your side and empathisize with you, so why slag off the posters on here
    : that are trying to help you ?
    :
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : Originally posted by Paul:
    : > I would find it very interesting to find the avg time from
filing to
    : > visa in hand for Canadians, those from UK, and the dead in the water Moscow.
Especially
    : > from July '02. I think there seems to be quite a contrast. Again, especially
if you
    : > filed in TSC or VSC compared to NSC. So when I say on top. I mean someone
filing in
    : > TSC or VSC from UK or Canada.....compared to some of us filing in NSC (MSC)
and
    : > dealing with Moscow. I sincerely believe there is quite a contrast here, and that
is the
    : > real annoying part. It isn't the same for someone filing in TX, CA, NE, and
the
    : > consulates are all different too. You can see everyone who filed at NSC
(rightfully)
    : > bitching. They seem to be moving at the same pace as Moscow. If anyone has this
data
    : > .....pls post it. :O) Again, it's all the differences in the system that really
bite!
    : >
    : >
    : > "rogerpenycate" wrote in message
    : > news:389156.102969-
    : >
[email protected]:389156.1029693307@briti shexpats.com...
    : > :
    : > : Wrong...... That doesn't mean that we don't care what
happens to
    : > : folks who don't happen to be from Canada or (like me) the UK Believe me,
many of us
    : > : read a lot of the posts whether they are
    : > related
    : > : to our own circumstances or not. A few try to offer some
halp and
    : > : advice but most of the time we
    : > can't
    : > : because your situation is different. That doesn't mean we
aren't
    : > : interested and pleased when we see
    : > a posting
    : > : from someone (outside of Canada or the UK) who gets their
visa.
    : > :
    : > : I really don't think there is an attitude of I'VE GOT MINE
NOW YOU
    : > : GET YOURS To a degree we are all in this together with a common goal. I've
read
    : > : most of your posts/threads and can appreciate how stressful it is for
you. I've
    : > : been there and so have/or are 99% of the posters on here.
    : > :
    : > : Also, I'm not sure about being on top. I haven't been on
top of my
    : > : wife for nearly 4 months ;o)
    : > :
    : > :
    : > :
    : > :
    : > :
    : > : Originally posted by Paul:
    : > : > NO, it's not a "misconception"! Read the whole thread
about
    : > "K visas
    : > : > not being issued at posts" this is certainly not
happening in
    : > : > Canada or
    : > the UK!
    : > : > I love how peopleon top say it's all the same and fine
and dandy.
    : > : > People
    : > from
    : > : > Canada and UK do not have a clue about the other
consulates. Only
    : > : > how great
    : > theirs is.
    : > : > (sorry .....but reality check?)
    : > : >
    : > : >
    : > : > "Ranjini" wrote in message news:388961.1029677151@b-news:388961.1029677151@b-
    : > : >
ritishexpats.comnews:388961.1029677151@britishexpa ts.com...
    : > : > :
    : > : > : Originally posted by karen86:
    : > : > : > Hi everyone,
    : > : > : >
    : > : > : > I'm wondering if anyone thinks their nationality is
    : > effecting
    : > : > their
    : > : > : > processing time. From most messages I've read, it
seems
    : > like
    : > : > most
    : > : > : > Canadians (with a few exceptions) are getting
approved
    : > really
    : > : > quickly.
    : > : > : > I'm beginning to wonder whether the fact that mine
still
    : > has
    : > : > not been
    : > : > : > approved has anything to do with the fact that I'm a
    : > Turkish
    : > : > citizen.
    : > : > : >
    : > : > : > Thanks karen1
    : > : > :
    : > : > : Karen, that's a misconception. It just appears that
    : > Canadians
    : > : > are
    : > : > : getting approved quickly, because there are a lot of
    : > Canadians
    : > : > (and
    : > : > : Brits too!!) on this forum. All application are treated
on
    : > a "first
    : > : > : come first served"
    : > : > basis. So you
    : > : > : can stop worrying about that. Ranjini
    : > : > :
    : > : > : --
    : > : > : Posted via
    : >
http://britishexpats.com/ht-
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    : > ts.com/ht- tp://britishexpats.com[/url]
    : > : > :
    : > :
    : > : --
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tp://britishexpats.com
    : > :
    :
    : --
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    :

karen86

I understand the inconsistencies across different service centers and different types of applications. But there are inconsistencies even within the same service center regarding the same type of applications.

In particular, I'm talking about the Nebraska Service Center and I-130's and I-129's. I guess there is no logic to how the INS works, so it's hopeless to try and figure out what's going on in there.

Paul

Thank you! Someone else can see there is a discrepancies in all these places we
depend on. I don't know what happened but TSC is lickadity (sp?) split now. If you
filed now, you have the visa probably close to the same time. (???)


"Harry" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    :
    : A lot of it does seem luck of the draw...what service center
you are
    : using then where you are from (i.e. what consulate you will be
using). I
    : was unlucky on the first count...TSC was WAAAAAY slow when my
sweetie
    : filed the I-129F for me...it took 121 days and that was fast
for that
    : period, then I was extremely lucky to be going through London.
About the
    : "those on top" comment, believe me I wasn't ignorant at all
about how
    : lucky I was to be going through the London embassy...in fact
there
    : wasn't a day I didn't thank God that I wasn't using an embassy
like
    : those in Africa or India.
    :
    : -Harry
    :
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    :