Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Oct 20th 2009, 11:49 pm
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
She says it is now more people and project management which isn't as much fun but she still has a couple of pet research projects she is running, just not doing that full time.
Oct 21st 2009, 12:31 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Her masters was a research based one and she got quite a few publications, she was going to go get her Phd when she landed the job as a researcher, but never needed to actually get it in the end and just worked as a researcher for a few years before getting promoted to run the lab, and now at this private place.
She says it is now more people and project management which isn't as much fun but she still has a couple of pet research projects she is running, just not doing that full time.
She says it is now more people and project management which isn't as much fun but she still has a couple of pet research projects she is running, just not doing that full time.
Oct 21st 2009, 12:58 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
She was initially running the diabetes lab at Havard though....so not to shabby of a place.
I think in her instance it was just a case of having a good research masters and good publications that gave her a break and then it got to the point where she really doesn't need to get one unless she wants to teach.
I think in her instance it was just a case of having a good research masters and good publications that gave her a break and then it got to the point where she really doesn't need to get one unless she wants to teach.
Oct 21st 2009, 7:00 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Not many. I did have one however it was in Vancouver, I was 90km away with no car and did not find housing in the week the company gave me to move and would not budge on allowing me more time and I dont know anyone in Vancouver and well being homeless was not something I was gonna do.
So I came back from now, pending background check I should have a job soon at the airport (8/hr) and I have an interview tomorrow for a seasonal manager position with the US division of a company I did the same job for in Canada during Christmas.
I wish that company operated year round.....
So I came back from now, pending background check I should have a job soon at the airport (8/hr) and I have an interview tomorrow for a seasonal manager position with the US division of a company I did the same job for in Canada during Christmas.
I wish that company operated year round.....
Oct 21st 2009, 6:00 pm
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
She was initially running the diabetes lab at Havard though....so not to shabby of a place.
I think in her instance it was just a case of having a good research masters and good publications that gave her a break and then it got to the point where she really doesn't need to get one unless she wants to teach.
I think in her instance it was just a case of having a good research masters and good publications that gave her a break and then it got to the point where she really doesn't need to get one unless she wants to teach.
Oct 22nd 2009, 2:54 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Slightly OT, but if she were interested in getting a PhD, in some universities in the UK, you can apply to be awarded a PhD "by publication" (i.e., based on a coherent programme of previously published material, primarily peer-reviewed journal publications). There is a lot more detail to it than that, obviously, but if she were interested in further information, PM me and I'd be glad to either exchange emails or phone conversation to explain further.
Oct 22nd 2009, 3:23 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
I completely agree. And if we could just get industry to realise the truth of what you are saying, a lot of young adults would save themselves a lot of money spending 4 years at university learning stuff that largely is not going to help them in the workplace. Bring back apprenticeships!
). Daughter number one is now less than two years away. Internships coordinated through a university are common in engineering but less so in other fields.Beyond all that though is a need for more jobs in this country, period. Bring back guilds and skilled tradesmen!
Oct 22nd 2009, 5:17 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Absolutely true - though I want my daughters to go to university for the life experience (and I don't mean frat parties ). Daughter number one is now less than two years away. Internships coordinated through a university are common in engineering but less so in other fields.
Beyond all that though is a need for more jobs in this country, period. Bring back guilds and skilled tradesmen!
). Daughter number one is now less than two years away. Internships coordinated through a university are common in engineering but less so in other fields.Beyond all that though is a need for more jobs in this country, period. Bring back guilds and skilled tradesmen!
Oct 22nd 2009, 6:08 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Living on campus, surrounded by your peer group, finding out who you are and what *you* believe in. Staying up all night musing about what the future holds; going to the massive libraries; late night walks with friends. I don't think you can get this experience if you live at home while attending classes. You only have one chance at this experience at a time when you're young and full of possibilities. I want this for my daughters - my eldest is ready for it now.
Oct 22nd 2009, 10:06 am
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
I completely agree. And if we could just get industry to realise the truth of what you are saying, a lot of young adults would save themselves a lot of money spending 4 years at university learning stuff that largely is not going to help them in the workplace. Bring back apprenticeships!
I effectively created my own "apprenticeship" by accident - attending night school paid for (reimbursed) by work and having to do the lesser technical types of work until the degree was finished. It took 2 straight years at a jc and then 7 more p/t at a tech school. A nine-year apprentiship
Oct 22nd 2009, 4:08 pm
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Living on campus, surrounded by your peer group, finding out who you are and what *you* believe in. Staying up all night musing about what the future holds; going to the massive libraries; late night walks with friends. I don't think you can get this experience if you live at home while attending classes. You only have one chance at this experience at a time when you're young and full of possibilities. I want this for my daughters - my eldest is ready for it now.
Dec 27th 2009, 12:35 pm
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
I am currently redoing my GCSEs (20 years after leaving school)
I have got plenty of qualifications from my work, but Im not sure how this will translate in the USA. Am also a member of a couple of proffesional organizations too.
Am leaving the Army after 22 years, will this experience aid in Job hunting or are employers not really impressed with this?
Am also wondering if its worth getting a Degree in Management or something before I finish my time I have 5 years left till I retire?
Any tips hints or advice will be great
I have got plenty of qualifications from my work, but Im not sure how this will translate in the USA. Am also a member of a couple of proffesional organizations too.
Am leaving the Army after 22 years, will this experience aid in Job hunting or are employers not really impressed with this?
Am also wondering if its worth getting a Degree in Management or something before I finish my time I have 5 years left till I retire?
Any tips hints or advice will be great
Dec 27th 2009, 12:43 pm
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Re: Did anyone struggle not having a degree?
Get a beautful degree in India .... for less than a $100
far better fakes than the US ones
far better fakes than the US ones