Damn cheek!
Jan 22nd 2006, 11:27 pm
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Rockgurl
,for free in England. I miss the NHS. 
Jan 22nd 2006, 11:32 pm
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by TruBrit
sorry i don't agree with this ...i'd like to remind everyone that the nhs is not free.... the tax payer pays and our parents and grandparents etc have all contributed.
Under the good old NHS you will not be billed for treatment or denied treatment based on your ability to pay. And the amount you pay (i.e.your taxes and NI contribs) is not affected by your past or present health situation. Unlike some places.
Jan 22nd 2006, 11:40 pm
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by elfman
Free at the point of delivery is the key phrase.
Under the good old NHS you will not be billed for treatment or denied treatment based on your ability to pay. And the amount you pay (i.e.your taxes and NI contribs) is not affected by your past or present health situation. Unlike some places.
Under the good old NHS you will not be billed for treatment or denied treatment based on your ability to pay. And the amount you pay (i.e.your taxes and NI contribs) is not affected by your past or present health situation. Unlike some places.
Agreed but I think what some of us is trying to say is that the NHS is not FREE. People who work have to pay contributions. It is however free to those who have never worked!
Jan 22nd 2006, 11:56 pm
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Agreed but I think what some of us is trying to say is that the NHS is not FREE. People who work have to pay contributions. It is however free to those who have never worked!
Jan 23rd 2006, 12:09 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Agreed but I think what some of us is trying to say is that the NHS is not FREE. People who work have to pay contributions. It is however free to those who have never worked!
Jan 23rd 2006, 12:36 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
And what about those who have treatment as opposed to those who are rarely ill? For the treatment of cancer for example, the contributions you have made likely don't cover the cost of the treatment. Should we complain about that?
The only point I was trying to make is that the NHS is NOT FREE. Whether you have no treatment, some treatment or extremely costly treatment it is not FREE to those who/have worked and have paid NHS contributions. It is only free to people that have never worked therefore never paid any contributions. Thats all.
Jan 23rd 2006, 12:42 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
The only point I was trying to make is that the NHS is NOT FREE. Whether you have no treatment, some treatment or extremely costly treatment it is not FREE to those who/have worked and have paid NHS contributions. It is only free to people that have never worked therefore never paid any contributions. Thats all.
Jan 23rd 2006, 12:46 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
It's also free to those who get treatment at the point at which their treatment costs are greater than their contributions.
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:10 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
We all know the NHS isn't perfect. For example, (I think it's still true) military personnel pay a share of the NHS but can't use it. But regardless, it sure as hell beats the funding schme over here.
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:26 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Agreed but I think what some of us is trying to say is that the NHS is not FREE. People who work have to pay contributions. It is however free to those who have never worked!
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:35 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Does your exclamation mark imply that you are pproposing that children and students be denied NHS treatment?
A lot of people here assume that it is free as you do not have to produce your credit card.
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:42 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
The only point I was trying to make is that the NHS is NOT FREE. Whether you have no treatment, some treatment or extremely costly treatment it is not FREE to those who/have worked and have paid NHS contributions. It is only free to people that have never worked therefore never paid any contributions. Thats all.
Do you also go around telling people that (for example) driving on Interstate highways is NOT FREE ??
How dare those people who don't work drive on roads that us contributers have paid for.
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Jan 23rd 2006, 1:51 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Sorry don't agree. They may have got more than they paid in but is in not free.
If you buy 1lb of apples and I give you 2lbs then you are getting the second pound free. Get it now?
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:51 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
Originally Posted by elfman
Do you have trouble understanding the concept of something being free at the point of delivery?
Jan 23rd 2006, 1:56 am
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Re: Damn cheek!
An (American) friend of mine was complaining only today that he took his daughter to A+E for a nasty cut on her arm ( it was pretty bad and needed stitches). They had to wait 5 hours to be seen and then it cost them their $250 deductable
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