cost of living
#31
Re: cost of living
I think you will be fine. You are coming into this with eyes wide open and listening to and taking on board the advice offered. Lots of the wallies we see on this board only want to hear good things as they dont want their rosy image of the golden land shattered. You are already a GC, wife is USC, you have a career with great propsects - You will be fine Im sure.
#32
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Re: cost of living
thank you- its still better to know all the hidden truth and be prepared for it. dont want to be a doctor with a huge debt etc after finishing my residency.
thanks all for sharing there thoughts and the advice.
thanks all for sharing there thoughts and the advice.
#33
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Re: cost of living
I would definitely consider buying if you are comfortable with the area you are looking, especially if you can get somewhere for about $200,000. The market is crap now, but in 3 years it is likely to be in a lot better state, and quite likely you will make some money from the price it is now.
Even at quite a high interest rate for the current market (6%) an interest only payment would be about $500. This would be tax deductible as well so in actual terms this would probably cost you between $300-400.
Yes you would have to pay property taxes on this which could be a fair bit, but again if paid monthly it may not be too bad and this is also tax deductible.
Even at quite a high interest rate for the current market (6%) an interest only payment would be about $500. This would be tax deductible as well so in actual terms this would probably cost you between $300-400.
Yes you would have to pay property taxes on this which could be a fair bit, but again if paid monthly it may not be too bad and this is also tax deductible.
thank you all. i am feeling more positive now.
any idea how should i divide my money.
i was hoping to spend aroung 100000 as a downpayment. 30000 on buying 2 cars plus insurance. and keep the remaining 30000 as a saving and use it as and when needed.
and use my monthly salary to survive for 3 years.
is tht plausable?
if i buy a house i do not think i will be selling it for about 8-10 years. and if i have to move i should be able to pay for the second house with my better pay as an attending?
i thought with the current market buying a house would make more sense.
any idea how should i divide my money.
i was hoping to spend aroung 100000 as a downpayment. 30000 on buying 2 cars plus insurance. and keep the remaining 30000 as a saving and use it as and when needed.
and use my monthly salary to survive for 3 years.
is tht plausable?
if i buy a house i do not think i will be selling it for about 8-10 years. and if i have to move i should be able to pay for the second house with my better pay as an attending?
i thought with the current market buying a house would make more sense.
I have seen some projections that say house prices will go down further. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would very seriously research that before I bought a house in this market.
Yes, in a few years, you could probably buy a second house and rent the first one out - there are not the restrictions on renting, like the UK. If it's yours, you can rent it out if you like. However, being a landlord (especially from a different city/state) is quite a pain.
If you are buying, often, folks are advised to not tie up that much of their capital in a house - especially since mortgage interest is deductible. If you don't have to put that much down, I would think you'd be better off putting more of it in an interest-bearing account somewhere. Keeps your options open - you can get at the money if you need to, plus you'd have it for a down payment on a second house, if that should become necessary.
I'd still suggest renting, at least short term (6 months even?) to know your way around the area, before purchasing.
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Re: cost of living
Prices are unlikely to be going down much more then they are now. They are talking about putting down $100,000 as well on a $200,000 house - no matter how doom and gloom you are, the prices are not going to drop by 50% further.
I was only saying an example anyway - they can do a repayment and it would only work out at about $100 more then what I quoted over 30 years.
Last edited by Longy; Feb 21st 2008 at 2:06 pm.
#35
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If you are buying, often, folks are advised to not tie up that much of their capital in a house - especially since mortgage interest is deductible. If you don't have to put that much down, I would think you'd be better off putting more of it in an interest-bearing account somewhere. Keeps your options open - you can get at the money if you need to, plus you'd have it for a down payment on a second house, if that should become necessary.
I'd still suggest renting, at least short term (6 months even?) to know your way around the area, before purchasing.
I'd still suggest renting, at least short term (6 months even?) to know your way around the area, before purchasing.
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I guess it comes down to whether you prefer having smaller monthly payments or a larger backup fund I guess.
#37
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Interest only is not a bad thing to do in the OP's case where they will be earning more money in a few years time - it will cut down on costs now and when it balloons they will be earning more money.
Prices are unlikely to be going down much more then they are now. They are talking about putting down $100,000 as well on a $200,000 house - no matter how doom and gloom you are, the prices are not going to drop by 50% further.
I was only saying an example anyway - they can do a repayment and it would only work out at about $100 more then what I quoted over 30 years.
Prices are unlikely to be going down much more then they are now. They are talking about putting down $100,000 as well on a $200,000 house - no matter how doom and gloom you are, the prices are not going to drop by 50% further.
I was only saying an example anyway - they can do a repayment and it would only work out at about $100 more then what I quoted over 30 years.
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Re: cost of living
If you are aware of the current home loan crisis it is due to interest only loans coming into maturity where people are either in foreclosure or being forced to sell because the payments were a lot higher than expected. Your best bet would be to get a fixed mortgage and in the future if the interest rate should fall, refinance. The security in knowing what your mortgage payments will be 5, 10, even 30 years from now is much better than trying to go in cheap. Trust Tracym and me who are homeowners.
But I believe the bulk of the mortgage crisis is due to people getting ARM's
#39
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Concerning your car insurance, nationality or GC status has no bearing on the cost of your car insurance, the cost is calculated from your credit score, your driving history (in the US), the type of car and your zipcode. If one of you has a better chance with this (if your wife lived in the US already and has credit/driving history for example) then you can have that person as the main policy holder.
#40
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To give you a bit more idea of the costs that might take you by surprise...
Does your health insurance cover your family? My husband gets his health insurance at 10% of premium, but has to pay full whack for the rest of us, so we pay $11k a year for the whole family. So get a definite quote from your employer on exactly how much it will cost you.
Does your health insurance cover your family? My husband gets his health insurance at 10% of premium, but has to pay full whack for the rest of us, so we pay $11k a year for the whole family. So get a definite quote from your employer on exactly how much it will cost you.
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#41
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As I said I was just quoting an example for the OP to show how cheap it could be - I was implying fixed rate interest only, sorry if that wasn't clear. In a few years time they are likely to be earning a lot more money and when it balloons in 10 years time to be a repayment they should be able to cope with the extra $200. This amount would be clear from the start so you would know what you were paying.
But I believe the bulk of the mortgage crisis is due to people getting ARM's
But I believe the bulk of the mortgage crisis is due to people getting ARM's
To the OP. Stay away from ARM Loans like the plague. Run away from them. Also if the mortgage company says you can afford X amount of dollars, don't try to fit that figure. Shop for a home that is a bit under that quoted figure. Just be sure that your mortgage and home expenses don't exceed 38% of your annual income. That way you'll be able to live comfortably.
I'd definitely lease your first year so you can get the lay of the land. You want to know what school districts are good, where the crime is low, areas with good home owners associations, and a place with a good reputation and growth. Plus you'll never know if you'll really like Pittsburgh. You may not. You'd be in a much better position to move after your residency to any hospital nationwide. Perhaps a city that doesn't get so much snow.
#42
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Re: cost of living
If you are aware of the current home loan crisis it is due to interest only loans coming into maturity where people are either in foreclosure or being forced to sell because the payments were a lot higher than expected. Your best bet would be to get a fixed mortgage and in the future if the interest rate should fall, refinance. The security in knowing what your mortgage payments will be 5, 10, even 30 years from now is much better than trying to go in cheap. Trust Tracym and me who are homeowners.
the mortgage mess is due to crappy adjustable rate mortgages, NOT interest only mortgages (I have no idea where you got this from), please note I said 'crappy', many adjustable rate mortgages are completely reasonable, for example if they adjust in 3/5/7 year time frames
bear in mind that virtually ALL mortgages in the UK are adjustable rate and people don't get into the mess they have in the USA
the problem has occurred with stupid/ignorant/greedy/poor people biting off more than they can chew or dishonest mortgage sales people selling mortgages to people who had no business owning a house in the first place
MOST interest only mortgages are interest only for an initial term like 10 years then they revert to fully-amortized
As Longy points out, if their income is expected to be higher in a few years time then an interest-only or ARM or an interest-only ARM (SHOCK HORROR) mortgage could be perfect.
when I moved here my wife was making a fairly mediocre salary but was in law school. Since it was her desire to buy rather than rent we were splitting the mortgage payment 50/50 and a 30-year fixed rate would have made things a lot more expensive; so we got a 3 year ARM at 4.25% and saved a LOT of interest
We then refinanced into a 7 year interest-only ARM at 6.25% (with cash out to buy some land) at the end of the 3 years
BUT
Our mortgage is still only $245k total. I would NOT recommend doing this if you want to spend half a mil.....
#43
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Re: cost of living
I'd definitely lease your first year so you can get the lay of the land. You want to know what school districts are good, where the crime is low, areas with good home owners associations, and a place with a good reputation and growth. Plus you'll never know if you'll really like Pittsburgh. You may not. You'd be in a much better position to move after your residency to any hospital nationwide. Perhaps a city that doesn't get so much snow.
#44
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I have to disagree with most of this post, and just because you are a homeowner this does not qualify you to talk about mortgage financing with any particular authority
the mortgage mess is due to crappy adjustable rate mortgages, NOT interest only mortgages (I have no idea where you got this from), please note I said 'crappy', many adjustable rate mortgages are completely reasonable, for example if they adjust in 3/5/7 year time frames
bear in mind that virtually ALL mortgages in the UK are adjustable rate and people don't get into the mess they have in the USA
the problem has occurred with stupid/ignorant/greedy/poor people biting off more than they can chew or dishonest mortgage sales people selling mortgages to people who had no business owning a house in the first place
MOST interest only mortgages are interest only for an initial term like 10 years then they revert to fully-amortized
As Longy points out, if their income is expected to be higher in a few years time then an interest-only or ARM or an interest-only ARM (SHOCK HORROR) mortgage could be perfect.
when I moved here my wife was making a fairly mediocre salary but was in law school. Since it was her desire to buy rather than rent we were splitting the mortgage payment 50/50 and a 30-year fixed rate would have made things a lot more expensive; so we got a 3 year ARM at 4.25% and saved a LOT of interest
We then refinanced into a 7 year interest-only ARM at 6.25% (with cash out to buy some land) at the end of the 3 years
BUT
Our mortgage is still only $245k total. I would NOT recommend doing this if you want to spend half a mil.....
the mortgage mess is due to crappy adjustable rate mortgages, NOT interest only mortgages (I have no idea where you got this from), please note I said 'crappy', many adjustable rate mortgages are completely reasonable, for example if they adjust in 3/5/7 year time frames
bear in mind that virtually ALL mortgages in the UK are adjustable rate and people don't get into the mess they have in the USA
the problem has occurred with stupid/ignorant/greedy/poor people biting off more than they can chew or dishonest mortgage sales people selling mortgages to people who had no business owning a house in the first place
MOST interest only mortgages are interest only for an initial term like 10 years then they revert to fully-amortized
As Longy points out, if their income is expected to be higher in a few years time then an interest-only or ARM or an interest-only ARM (SHOCK HORROR) mortgage could be perfect.
when I moved here my wife was making a fairly mediocre salary but was in law school. Since it was her desire to buy rather than rent we were splitting the mortgage payment 50/50 and a 30-year fixed rate would have made things a lot more expensive; so we got a 3 year ARM at 4.25% and saved a LOT of interest
We then refinanced into a 7 year interest-only ARM at 6.25% (with cash out to buy some land) at the end of the 3 years
BUT
Our mortgage is still only $245k total. I would NOT recommend doing this if you want to spend half a mil.....
#45
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I have to disagree with most of this post, and just because you are a homeowner this does not qualify you to talk about mortgage financing with any particular authority
the mortgage mess is due to crappy adjustable rate mortgages, NOT interest only mortgages (I have no idea where you got this from), please note I said 'crappy', many adjustable rate mortgages are completely reasonable, for example if they adjust in 3/5/7 year time frames
.....
the mortgage mess is due to crappy adjustable rate mortgages, NOT interest only mortgages (I have no idea where you got this from), please note I said 'crappy', many adjustable rate mortgages are completely reasonable, for example if they adjust in 3/5/7 year time frames
.....