Convince me NOT to go back to the UK
#46
Re: Convince me NOT to go back to the UK
Hi Bob,
Hope all is well with the baby & all.
One reason why I posted this is that I also wanted to gauge opinions on the degree in which the UK has or has not changed in the last 10 years from expats who visit fairly regularly. I would value their opinions over those who still live there and may not have noticed such changes. The only real changes I'm aware of are that there are a lot more Eastern Europeans, the economy is worse (as is everywhere) and that London now has a skyline.
Hope all is well with the baby & all.
One reason why I posted this is that I also wanted to gauge opinions on the degree in which the UK has or has not changed in the last 10 years from expats who visit fairly regularly. I would value their opinions over those who still live there and may not have noticed such changes. The only real changes I'm aware of are that there are a lot more Eastern Europeans, the economy is worse (as is everywhere) and that London now has a skyline.
#47
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Just saying.
#49
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I don't have the money, basically. And even if I did, I would want to visit the UK first and research jobs, potential locations, etc.
It's not because I'm miserable here or because I'm running away and seeking salvation in Blighty. I would do it because I think I'll have a better chance of being able to move forward in my life, personally, professionally and even when it comes to making new friends or seeking potential romantic partners.
Remember, I didn't come here for a better life in the first place, which is why I won't leave disappointed or cap in hand. I've gained a lot from the experience, but it's been "time to move on" for a couple of years now and I'm not getting any younger.
I don't like the American rat race and want no part of it. I don't keep up with the Joneses. Perhaps the UK has become more competitive in that sense since I left. This is why I want feedback, not solutions to my own problems.
It's not because I'm miserable here or because I'm running away and seeking salvation in Blighty. I would do it because I think I'll have a better chance of being able to move forward in my life, personally, professionally and even when it comes to making new friends or seeking potential romantic partners.
Remember, I didn't come here for a better life in the first place, which is why I won't leave disappointed or cap in hand. I've gained a lot from the experience, but it's been "time to move on" for a couple of years now and I'm not getting any younger.
I don't like the American rat race and want no part of it. I don't keep up with the Joneses. Perhaps the UK has become more competitive in that sense since I left. This is why I want feedback, not solutions to my own problems.
Really, when it comes down to it, the only money you will need is enough for an air ticket back to Britain and maybe a couple of months rent/deposit on somewhere to live as well as buying groceries during that time. If you're going to be looking for work in a city, you probably won't need a car or any other expense like that.
The advice given to people on here who want to leave the UK for professional reasons is to network intensively and put yourself "out there" in the hope of being noticed. The same applies to you. Build up as many UK contacts in your field as you can, and work them for job openings.
Good luck.
#50
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On the rare occasions I miss the UK I go to Vancouver or Victoria and remember very rapidly why I left because they're so similar.
If you're an LPR or US citizen my advice would be to move to Seattle if you want crap weather and you can always go and watch soccer in Vancouver, plus it's loaded down with British people.
If you're an LPR or US citizen my advice would be to move to Seattle if you want crap weather and you can always go and watch soccer in Vancouver, plus it's loaded down with British people.
#51
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Cool! Well fingers crossed it all goes well!
#52
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The OP's asking for opinions in something that's a pretty life changing kind of arena, so knock the soap box rubbish on its head folks.
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No health insurance is a biggie.
Difficulty fitting in on an ideological level is as well.
I think Lion in Winter has expressed it very well. You are fearful of going back to situations which were bad before, but you don't have to. The UK is big enough for you to avoid your family and old toxic acquaintances. Look on it as a completely new start.
Difficulty fitting in on an ideological level is as well.
I think Lion in Winter has expressed it very well. You are fearful of going back to situations which were bad before, but you don't have to. The UK is big enough for you to avoid your family and old toxic acquaintances. Look on it as a completely new start.
#54
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I have to say I'm rather surprised by 'attack' on here by some forum regulars. Don't knock him down; help him up. There are plenty of folks that feel their situation is unchangeable and their stuck, like this guy does. Obviously we know the ultimate decision is his, but we should be nicer in our approach.
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I have to say I'm rather surprised by 'attack' on here by some forum regulars. Don't knock him down; help him up. There are plenty of folks that feel their situation is unchangeable and their stuck, like this guy does. Obviously we know the ultimate decision is his, but we should be nicer in our approach.
I am sure he also knows he has the final say as well.
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Re: Convince me NOT to go back to the UK
I have to say I'm rather surprised by 'attack' on here by some forum regulars. Don't knock him down; help him up. There are plenty of folks that feel their situation is unchangeable and their stuck, like this guy does. Obviously we know the ultimate decision is his, but we should be nicer in our approach.
#57
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I sympathise - it can be quite hard. (been here 16 yrs now)
I think loneliness may be a big factor, yes? I know it was/is for me. The reason I say was/is - I have good weeks, bad days. My last friend (ex-pat) left 2 yrs ago and I never realised how much impact that would have in my life.
I'm a hermit now - I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to go out (like this Sat night - OH GAWD!!!!).
There is nothing like good friends and at our age it is VERY difficult to make new friends. Especially since we are still (well, I am) looking for ex-pats.
I wanted/want to leave too. But here's the thing - I go back every year, hand out with my friends, food that I love, people that are friendly and can't WAIT to get back here. I realise that the country I left a long time ago has changed - and not in a good way.
In my case, it's me. I want to leave, I want to stay (I actually want to go to Switzerland but not gonna happen due to the cost of course.)
So I suppose the thing is this - what do you think would really be different if you moved back? What if wherever you move to they are just as anti-social? Do you think you would handle it better?
I think loneliness may be a big factor, yes? I know it was/is for me. The reason I say was/is - I have good weeks, bad days. My last friend (ex-pat) left 2 yrs ago and I never realised how much impact that would have in my life.
I'm a hermit now - I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to go out (like this Sat night - OH GAWD!!!!).
There is nothing like good friends and at our age it is VERY difficult to make new friends. Especially since we are still (well, I am) looking for ex-pats.
I wanted/want to leave too. But here's the thing - I go back every year, hand out with my friends, food that I love, people that are friendly and can't WAIT to get back here. I realise that the country I left a long time ago has changed - and not in a good way.
In my case, it's me. I want to leave, I want to stay (I actually want to go to Switzerland but not gonna happen due to the cost of course.)
So I suppose the thing is this - what do you think would really be different if you moved back? What if wherever you move to they are just as anti-social? Do you think you would handle it better?
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And it is a truth that the older you get the harder it is to obtain a social circle.
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Really? When I go back, it always seems better, with more regeneration, more stuff to do, and more innovation (silly things like a digital machine which makes it really easy to inflate your car tyres, a job I avoid here). What don't you like?