"Child health care bill"
Jan 30th 2009, 1:44 pm
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"Child health care bill"
What does this mean? I didn't even know we had anything like this.
"The Democratic majority turned back Republican amendments to limit expansion of the program. Among the failed amendments were a prohibition on using federal money to cover children of newly arrived legal immigrants and a stricter income limit in some states for participating families.
Current law requires a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants become eligible for coverage under Medicaid and SCHIP. Democrats said that removing the ban would help children before small health problems became big ones.
"It is likely many of these children are already U.S. citizens and many will become U.S citizens, and their being unhealthy doesn't make sense for that family, and it certainly does not make sense for our nation." said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/...en_s_health_19
"The Democratic majority turned back Republican amendments to limit expansion of the program. Among the failed amendments were a prohibition on using federal money to cover children of newly arrived legal immigrants and a stricter income limit in some states for participating families.
Current law requires a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants become eligible for coverage under Medicaid and SCHIP. Democrats said that removing the ban would help children before small health problems became big ones.
"It is likely many of these children are already U.S. citizens and many will become U.S citizens, and their being unhealthy doesn't make sense for that family, and it certainly does not make sense for our nation." said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/...en_s_health_19
Jan 30th 2009, 2:12 pm
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There are more programs out there then most people realize, it can just be hard to find them...
My sisters kids are covered under a similar program in California, Healthy Families which I think the state receives some federal funding for.
http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/HF....aspx#eligible
My sisters kids are covered under a similar program in California, Healthy Families which I think the state receives some federal funding for.
http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/HF....aspx#eligible
Jan 30th 2009, 2:12 pm
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Re: "Child health care bill"
What does this mean? I didn't even know we had anything like this.
"The Democratic majority turned back Republican amendments to limit expansion of the program. Among the failed amendments were a prohibition on using federal money to cover children of newly arrived legal immigrants and a stricter income limit in some states for participating families.
Current law requires a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants become eligible for coverage under Medicaid and SCHIP. Democrats said that removing the ban would help children before small health problems became big ones.
"It is likely many of these children are already U.S. citizens and many will become U.S citizens, and their being unhealthy doesn't make sense for that family, and it certainly does not make sense for our nation." said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/...en_s_health_19
"The Democratic majority turned back Republican amendments to limit expansion of the program. Among the failed amendments were a prohibition on using federal money to cover children of newly arrived legal immigrants and a stricter income limit in some states for participating families.
Current law requires a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants become eligible for coverage under Medicaid and SCHIP. Democrats said that removing the ban would help children before small health problems became big ones.
"It is likely many of these children are already U.S. citizens and many will become U.S citizens, and their being unhealthy doesn't make sense for that family, and it certainly does not make sense for our nation." said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/...en_s_health_19
Just what is the Republican problem with LEGAL immigrants having access to these programs, given that they are paying tax like every other working American?
Someone had mentioned the SCHIP program to us as our 6yr old has a pre-existing condition and at the time (when we were planning our move) we were not sure whether we could get insurance for him. If SCHIP had been the only option I don't think we would have come over.
Jan 30th 2009, 2:30 pm
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I just re-read that and realised that it said legal immigrants, not illegal.
Just what is the Republican problem with LEGAL immigrants having access to these programs, given that they are paying tax like every other working American?
Someone had mentioned the SCHIP program to us as our 6yr old has a pre-existing condition and at the time (when we were planning our move) we were not sure whether we could get insurance for him. If SCHIP had been the only option I don't think we would have come over.
Just what is the Republican problem with LEGAL immigrants having access to these programs, given that they are paying tax like every other working American?
Someone had mentioned the SCHIP program to us as our 6yr old has a pre-existing condition and at the time (when we were planning our move) we were not sure whether we could get insurance for him. If SCHIP had been the only option I don't think we would have come over.
Jan 30th 2009, 2:42 pm
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Current law requires a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants become eligible for coverage under Medicaid and SCHIP
"It is likely many of these children are already U.S. citizens and many will become U.S citizens, and their being unhealthy doesn't make sense for that family, and it certainly does not make sense for our nation." said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill."[/I]
You can't be a US citizen immigrant...
Jan 30th 2009, 2:44 pm
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How much Social Security has your average 6-month old born in the US paid into the system?
Probably about as much as a 6-month old Ukranian that's just moved here...
Jan 30th 2009, 4:26 pm
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Children are a special problem because they often will be the USCs in the household. They are entitled to benefits by virtue of citizenship.
Ex, I know a family of 5 where the parents and oldest child (now 15) are here totally illegally, meaning they snook in, not overstayed. The other 2 children were born here, one of them with pretty severe retardation. He receives a number of benefits, probably SSDI and for sure food stamps and probably some medical. It's pretty common to have split citizenship families.
But back to legal immigrants; they too could have a child born in the US, making the child a citizen. When the immigrants naturalize after 5 years here, the children become citizens. Some kids who arrive as immigrants become citizens at entry depending on their family history.
I believe in this context 'immigrants' refers only to Permanent Residents.
Jan 30th 2009, 5:24 pm
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Legal immigrants are not entitled to means-tested benefits for their first 5 years in the US; most of the programs have a filter built into their system to prohibit them from applying. This includes thing like 'welfare', food stamps and medicare as well as Medicaid and SCHIP.
Children are a special problem because they often will be the USCs in the household. They are entitled to benefits by virtue of citizenship.
Ex, I know a family of 5 where the parents and oldest child (now 15) are here totally illegally, meaning they snook in, not overstayed. The other 2 children were born here, one of them with pretty severe retardation. He receives a number of benefits, probably SSDI and for sure food stamps and probably some medical. It's pretty common to have split citizenship families.
But back to legal immigrants; they too could have a child born in the US, making the child a citizen. When the immigrants naturalize after 5 years here, the children become citizens. Some kids who arrive as immigrants become citizens at entry depending on their family history.
I believe in this context 'immigrants' refers only to Permanent Residents.
Children are a special problem because they often will be the USCs in the household. They are entitled to benefits by virtue of citizenship.
Ex, I know a family of 5 where the parents and oldest child (now 15) are here totally illegally, meaning they snook in, not overstayed. The other 2 children were born here, one of them with pretty severe retardation. He receives a number of benefits, probably SSDI and for sure food stamps and probably some medical. It's pretty common to have split citizenship families.
But back to legal immigrants; they too could have a child born in the US, making the child a citizen. When the immigrants naturalize after 5 years here, the children become citizens. Some kids who arrive as immigrants become citizens at entry depending on their family history.
I believe in this context 'immigrants' refers only to Permanent Residents.
Similar rules apply for immigrants on visas in the UK. Most have 'No recourse to public funds' stamped in their passports and so couldn't claim benefits of any kind. They do have access to the NHS though.
Jan 30th 2009, 7:28 pm
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I think it's a good thing the restrictions are being rolled back. I have a UKC friend in OK and she has a UKC kid. Both are PRs. Her soon-to-be-USC ex has been a real b*&tard and is making sure she can't get anything through the courts even though he's been lying (to the courts) all along and owes her money.
She arrived in the USA in 2003, but thanks to many mistakes made by the USCIS, she didn't get PR status until 2007 (10yr card). She isn't eligible for Federal Government benefits until 2012.
OK is one of those tough anti-illegal immigrant States and in it's zeal to exclude illegals, it's also been causing problems for legals as well. As she is still married to him (the divorce has been going on for nearly 2yrs now), all this time she can't claim benefits in OK because they say the USC hubby is responsible for her. Of course, once she's divorced she can but by then, she'll be out on the street and homeless.
She had a chance to claim VAWA a few years ago. The hubby is a control freak. She now wishes she had done it.
She arrived in the USA in 2003, but thanks to many mistakes made by the USCIS, she didn't get PR status until 2007 (10yr card). She isn't eligible for Federal Government benefits until 2012.
OK is one of those tough anti-illegal immigrant States and in it's zeal to exclude illegals, it's also been causing problems for legals as well. As she is still married to him (the divorce has been going on for nearly 2yrs now), all this time she can't claim benefits in OK because they say the USC hubby is responsible for her. Of course, once she's divorced she can but by then, she'll be out on the street and homeless.
She had a chance to claim VAWA a few years ago. The hubby is a control freak. She now wishes she had done it.
Jan 30th 2009, 7:41 pm
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Remind her about his I-864 Affidavit of Support.
Divorce does not discharge it, it promises to support her and repay any means-tested benefits she gets (if she can get them).
Sucks for her.
Divorce does not discharge it, it promises to support her and repay any means-tested benefits she gets (if she can get them).
Sucks for her.
Jan 31st 2009, 2:59 am
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She knows about all that. The problem is he claims he's unemployed and therefore has no money. Kinda strange how he's able to travel to Canada and Mexico still running his online business with no money though. He's been milking the divorce court system for all it's worth. He's on his 4th lawyer now!
