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My wife (been married 1 year and waiting AOS) went to get her license and was told K1
visa are not accepted and can't even take the test. Can not get a drivers license
until she gets green card. We were told that most states were changing to this.

Anyone having this problem in other states?

Have called everyone at DMV including headquarters and was told the same - just
changed ruleslast week.

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks JE

Andy Platt

Which state? Contact your state representatives - sounds like they are just
overreacting in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks.

Andy.

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I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

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Daisy

My husband never had a drivers license when we married, he was from Canada and had NO
problem what so ever getting a drivers license here in Kansas!

Daisy

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Rete

After a year of marriage, she is only now going for her driver's license? Does she have an EAD? A social security number? Have you asked if the presentation of a current EAD card which serves as proof of pending and the receipt for the AOS issued by INS is good enough for the issuance of a driver's license?

I can understand the denial of a driver's license with the K-1 only. Let's face it the K-1 is a "non" immigration visa. If you don't marry the petitioner and file for AOS you have to leave the country. With the issuance of driver's licenses to every Tom, Dick and Harriet (remember the posts re how you can get a Texas license without any visa whatsoever) and the attack on 9/11, it is no wonder that something like this has been instituted.

When you call your congressperson, see if the issuance of an AOS pending letter from INS would do the trick. He/she might be able to have the congressional interest department at the INS office give you such a document.

Rita

Dj

I received my Oklahoma drivers license without a written or driving test. I only had
my K-1 visa, no social security number.

I crossed into the US on Sept 30, 2001 and received my license on October 9, 2001.
Not a problem at all.

Which state are you in?

DJ

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Yair Leibovich

Dear JE,

When you apply for a document from the government, you are given a form to fill up.
Also, you must show proof of identity.

Did she fill out all the fields in her form? If some of them are empty, for example a
social security number, she can apply for it and then re-apply for the license.

Did she show all that is required to prove her identity? The accepted forms of
identity should be and usually are posted on the wall.

If there is an additional new requirement, like showing a green card, it should be
posted on the wall at the DMV. If it is posted there, You might want to check whether
it is hand written (might imply that the new requirement is illegal) or on a form
with a form number.

If all requirements are met, they usually don't ask questions and just start
processing.

Yair

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Doug Melville

This just sucks big time.... what are we all supposed to do until our green cards are
issued ?? total overreaction, i cant imagine too many of the perpetrators of sept
11th enetered on k1 visas.. it just makes me wonder what happens next?? no SSN ??

Im gonna be entering the states (Arizona) sometime December (well, as long as my
interview goes ok... ) , and if i cant drive i am going to be majorly pissed off.....
apart from the impact on job-hunting etc etc

Doug

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Daisy

Boy you lucked out...no written test at all? My husband not only had to have the
written test but the driving test too.

Daisy

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Dj

I was told over the phone initially that yes I would have to take both the written
and the driving test, but when I got there (prepared to do both tests of course) the
lady spent about 30 minutes on the phone verifying something about my Canadian
license she then called me in and gave me the paperwork to take to the tag agency to
pick up my license.

For anyone else going through this in Oklahoma I used the following offices to get
my license:

Testing Center Claremore, OK Tag Agency Catoosa, OK

The tag agency was initially quite a bit concerned that I did not have a SSN, but
they again called someone and verified that it was OK for me to get a license
without a SSN.

DJ

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Rete

I may be off base here but I think you all are missing the point. I've posted the point system from the NYS DVM below. One of the required documents is an UNexpired I-94. As this woman has an obviously expired I-94 she cannot get a license in NYS unless she had an EAD Card or a travel documents. Now this is NYS, don't know if it is the same for her state or anyone else's state. If you are going to be needing a driver's license and you are coming here on a K-1 or even marrying from a tourist visa, check out the state you will be living in and if an unexpired I-94 is all that is required ... then get your license asap.


Here are requirements, or the point system, that you have to fulfill in order to qualify for a driver's license. One of those is proof of age. This is shown with either a bc or a passport. Both of these items show that you were not born in the US and in that instance, the DMV might well ask for proof of your having been examined upon entry into the US. Below is a list from the NYS DVM and you will note what they ask for to validate your being here in the US.

The following documents have a value of 6 points each:

New York State Photo Driver License/Permit/Non-Driver ID Card.

If Under Age 21-Affidavit by parent or legal guardian. Must be signed by parent or guardian in the presence a of DMV representative. Proof of date of birth required for applicant. Statement of Identity by Parent/Guardian, form MV-45.

The following document has a value of 4 points:

US Passport, valid or expired within last 2 years.*

The following documents have a value of 3 points each:

Photo Driver License issued by another US State, jurisdiction, territory or possession, or Canadian province or territory (must be in effect at least 6 months and not expired for more than 12 months).*
US Military Photo ID Card*
Medicaid/Benefit/Food Stamp Card (with photo OR without photo, 2 points)
NYS Department of Corrections Inmate Photo ID Card
Foreign passport - in English and with a U.S. Visa and valid I-94, I-94W or unexpired I-155 attached. If not in English, a certified translation by the embassy or consulate of the issuing country is required.*
Canadian Immigration Record and Visa or Record of Landing (IMM-1000).*
US Re-entry Permit (I-327)*
Refugee Travel Document (I-571)*
Certificate of Citizenship (N-560, N-561 or N-645)*
Certificate of Naturalization (N-550, N-570 or N-578)*
Valid Resident Alien Card (INS I-551, photo)*
Valid Employment Authorization Card (INS I-688B, I-766, photo)*

The following documents have a value of 2 points each:

NYS DMV Non-Photo Interim License or Computer Generated Learner Permit
NYS Vehicle Title Certificate
NYS Vehicle Registration Receipt
US Social Security Card (must have your signature)
US High School ID With Report Card
US College ID With Photo and Transcript
US Marriage or Divorce Record, or Court-issued Name Change Decree
NYS Professional License
NYS or New York City Pistol Permit

The following documents have a value of 1 point each:

US Veterans Universal Access ID Card (photo)
Valid US Major Credit Card
Supermarket Check Cashing Card (must have your signature)
US Parole Papers (Issued in arrest name)
Cash Card (ATM) (Must have your pre-printed name and signature)
US Insurance Policy (In effect at least 2 years)
Canceled Check (With your pre-printed name)
US Health Insurance Card/Prescription Card
Employee ID Card
Bank Statement/Record
Computerized Pay Stub (must include Social Security Number)
Utility Bill (Must have your name and address)
High School Diploma or GED (General Equivalency Diploma)
W-2 Form (must include Social Security Number)
Union Card

Proof of Date of Birth

You must also show proof of your date of birth. The proof must be the original, or a certified copy from the issuing agency. We will accept ANY ONE of the following:

Birth certificate issued and certified by a Board of Health or Bureau of Vital Statistics in the US, its territories or possessions. Foreign birth certificates are not acceptable.
New York State Photo Driver License/Permit/Non-Driver ID Card
Photo Driver License only from another US state or Canada.
US Passport
Foreign passport - in English and with a U.S. Visa and valid I-94, I-94W or unexpired I-155 attached. If not in English, a certified translation by the embassy or consulate of the issuing country is required.
Military Separation Papers (DD-214)/Photo ID Card
Canadian Immigration Record and Visa or Record of Landing (IMM-1000).
US Re-entry Permit (I-327)
Refugee Travel Document (I-571)
Certificate of Citizenship (N-560, N-561 or N-645)
Certificate of Naturalization (N-550, N-570 or N-578)
Valid Resident Alien Card (INS I-551, photo)
Valid Employment Authorization Card (INS I-688B, I-766, photo)

Richard1972

Holy shit! Are you trying to say once I enter the US I can't get a drivers license until I get a Green Card!!! How is anyone going to get around, or get a job????
Anyone form Ohio out there with any advice how it works there?

This is BAD news
Regards
Rich

Old Monk

i cant get

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Richard1972

what?

Ameriscot

There's no problem in Ohio (apart from the awful standard of driving). You should get your license within a month of setting foot. You'll need to show your "valid INS document". For me, a passport stamp was all I had and absolutely sufficient. There's no need to have a Green Card to get a DL - I know plenty of people on L4 visas who get their licenses within a month.

http://www.state.oh.us/odps/division/bmv/pd.html
http://www.ameriscot.com/pg/license.htm