Can they do this?
Oct 5th 2006, 5:44 pm
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Can they do this?
Stupid question really because I'm pretty sure in this country of zero worker's right, they probably can.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
Oct 5th 2006, 6:15 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Yes they can. And will.
Oct 5th 2006, 6:28 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by g1ant
Stupid question really because I'm pretty sure in this country of zero worker's right, they probably can.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
Oct 5th 2006, 6:32 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by g1ant
Stupid question really because I'm pretty sure in this country of zero worker's right, they probably can.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
You are hired at will, and can be fired at will, with or without reason. In the same aspect, you can also leave the company with or without reason.
There is nothing you can do about it I am afraid, I spoke to a lawyer about this a couple of years ago. I had actually handed in my 2 weeks notice as per my company employees handbook, which then entitled me to all of my accrued holiday pay when I left the company. Have a guess what the company did.
Fired me and kept all my holiday pay..... their reason for keeping my holiday pay......... I didn't work my 2 weeks notice........ Bastards.
CALL THE DEPT OF LABOUR.....quietly.
http://www.dol.gov
Last edited by Rodney you plonker; Oct 5th 2006 at 6:53 pm.
Oct 5th 2006, 6:36 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Get her off to community college to get retrained as a plumber or Electrician. Go Self employed and the world is your Lobster Del.
Oct 5th 2006, 7:01 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by Rodney you plonker
They can do what they like. In the USA unless you have a detailed signed contract, you are hired by way of what's called "At will employment".
You are hired at will, and can be fired at will, with or without reason. In the same aspect, you can also leave the company with or without reason.
There is nothing you can do about it I am afraid, I spoke to a lawyer about this a couple of years ago. I had actually handed in my 2 weeks notice as per my company employees handbook, which then entitled me to all of my accrued holiday pay when I left the company. Have a guess what the company did.
Fired me and kept all my holiday pay..... their reason for keeping my holiday pay......... I didn't work my 2 weeks notice........ Bastards.
CALL THE DEPT OF LABOUR.....quietly.
http://www.dol.gov
You are hired at will, and can be fired at will, with or without reason. In the same aspect, you can also leave the company with or without reason.
There is nothing you can do about it I am afraid, I spoke to a lawyer about this a couple of years ago. I had actually handed in my 2 weeks notice as per my company employees handbook, which then entitled me to all of my accrued holiday pay when I left the company. Have a guess what the company did.
Fired me and kept all my holiday pay..... their reason for keeping my holiday pay......... I didn't work my 2 weeks notice........ Bastards.
CALL THE DEPT OF LABOUR.....quietly.
http://www.dol.gov
Oct 5th 2006, 7:05 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by g1ant
Stupid question really because I'm pretty sure in this country of zero worker's right, they probably can.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
Anyway, Mrs G1ant's employer has been taked over by Un**ed Health**re and one of the gems that they have come up with is that anyone who is late clocking in for work by even one minute will be issued with a "tardy" mark. Yup, just like in school. And four tardies within one twelve month period and you are fired. Just like that. Fired and out the door.
At the moment Austin is going through a HUGE highway construction program on and around I-35 resulting in all sorts of unforseen traffic delays. Couple that with delays from early morning fog and car wrecks caused by sh1t Texan driving and I reckon that most employees will pick up their four black marks within the first six months and there won't be anyone left there in 12 months.
Time for her to look for a new job I suppose.
How many times per year can she 'forget' to clock in?
Oldest trick in the book.
Oct 5th 2006, 7:19 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by ironporer
How many times per year can she 'forget' to clock in?
Oldest trick in the book.
Oldest trick in the book.
It gets better. Now they are being required to sign a contract that says they are "contingent" workers with United and not full time contracted workers as they were with their old employers.
Oct 5th 2006, 7:21 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by Rodney you plonker
They can do what they like. In the USA unless you have a detailed signed contract, you are hired by way of what's called "At will employment".
You are hired at will, and can be fired at will, with or without reason. In the same aspect, you can also leave the company with or without reason.
There is nothing you can do about it I am afraid, I spoke to a lawyer about this a couple of years ago. I had actually handed in my 2 weeks notice as per my company employees handbook, which then entitled me to all of my accrued holiday pay when I left the company. Have a guess what the company did.
Fired me and kept all my holiday pay..... their reason for keeping my holiday pay......... I didn't work my 2 weeks notice........ Bastards.
CALL THE DEPT OF LABOUR.....quietly.
http://www.dol.gov
You are hired at will, and can be fired at will, with or without reason. In the same aspect, you can also leave the company with or without reason.
There is nothing you can do about it I am afraid, I spoke to a lawyer about this a couple of years ago. I had actually handed in my 2 weeks notice as per my company employees handbook, which then entitled me to all of my accrued holiday pay when I left the company. Have a guess what the company did.
Fired me and kept all my holiday pay..... their reason for keeping my holiday pay......... I didn't work my 2 weeks notice........ Bastards.
CALL THE DEPT OF LABOUR.....quietly.
http://www.dol.gov
It's funny, when I was in the UK, I thought the trade unions were too big for their boots. Here, I'm such a pinko leftie its untrue.
Oct 5th 2006, 7:23 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by g1ant
They have the "office snout" who will pretty quick bust you on that one.
It gets better. Now they are being required to sign a contract that says they are "contingent" workers with United and not full time contracted workers as they were with their old employers.
It gets better. Now they are being required to sign a contract that says they are "contingent" workers with United and not full time contracted workers as they were with their old employers.
Oct 5th 2006, 7:25 pm
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It's funny, when I was in the UK, I thought the trade unions were too big for their boots. Here, I'm such a pinko leftie its untrue.
Oct 5th 2006, 7:29 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
I worked at a place that did something similar. If you clocked in more than 15 minutes early or 2 minutes late you got a tardy. If you clocked out more than 2 minutes early you got a tardy, but only as long as you worked at least 50% of your shift. Anything outside those you got an absence. That also was the case for lunch breaks. You got 12 tardies and 4 absences every 6 months.
It was very childish but it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to work that policy to your advantage if you are working a sales job where you have to make a certain amount of sales every hour you work. Oh, they also made you bring in an obituary if you took time off for a funeral and a doctors note if you were off sick for any amount of time.
It was very childish but it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to work that policy to your advantage if you are working a sales job where you have to make a certain amount of sales every hour you work. Oh, they also made you bring in an obituary if you took time off for a funeral and a doctors note if you were off sick for any amount of time.
Oct 5th 2006, 8:52 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Workers rights suck here 
When Kate gave birth to Sadie she had complications and was off a month or so extra. The week before she was due to start back she got a letter saying she had too long maternity leave and her contract had been terminated ! ... That same day her boss phoned to ask when she was starting back ?
"Never" she told her, "I just got a letter saying I am fired"
"Thats just a formalty, we issue them if you are off too long, we need you to come back"
"Will all my service be re-enstated ?" asked Kate.
"No, .... You will start as a new employee"
"Then F**k Off"
When Kate gave birth to Sadie she had complications and was off a month or so extra. The week before she was due to start back she got a letter saying she had too long maternity leave and her contract had been terminated ! ... That same day her boss phoned to ask when she was starting back ?
"Never" she told her, "I just got a letter saying I am fired"
"Thats just a formalty, we issue them if you are off too long, we need you to come back"
"Will all my service be re-enstated ?" asked Kate.
"No, .... You will start as a new employee"
"Then F**k Off"
Last edited by Patrick Hasler; Oct 5th 2006 at 8:55 pm.
Oct 5th 2006, 8:55 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by Patrick Hasler
Workers right suck here
When Kate gave birth to Sadie she had complications and was off a month or so extra. The week before she was due to start back she got a letter saying she had too long maternity leave and her contract had been terminated ! ... That same day her boss phoned to ask when she was starting back ?
"Never" she told her, "I just got a letter saying I am fired"
"Thats just a formalty, we issue them if you are off too long, we need you to come back"
"Will all my service be re-enstated ?" asked Kate.
"No, .... You will start as a new employee"
"Then F**k Off"
When Kate gave birth to Sadie she had complications and was off a month or so extra. The week before she was due to start back she got a letter saying she had too long maternity leave and her contract had been terminated ! ... That same day her boss phoned to ask when she was starting back ?
"Never" she told her, "I just got a letter saying I am fired"
"Thats just a formalty, we issue them if you are off too long, we need you to come back"
"Will all my service be re-enstated ?" asked Kate.
"No, .... You will start as a new employee"
"Then F**k Off"
Oct 5th 2006, 8:56 pm
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Re: Can they do this?
Originally Posted by g1ant
It gets better. Now they are being required to sign a contract that says they are "contingent" workers with United and not full time contracted workers as they were with their old employers.
I am so glad that I am not in the corporate environment anymore so I don't have to deal with petty stunts of companies like that.... do you have a hall pass?