Buying new power cables
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You CAN use a conventional socket in a bathroom. It just needs to be a bathroom rather bigger than the convention in the UK.
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It is not the water that conducts electricity but the stuff in it like salts etc or the salts on your skin.
I used to live in a city that if you took regular tap water and hooked up battery and lamp and placed the leads in the water it would not conduct and light the lamp.
I used to live in a city that if you took regular tap water and hooked up battery and lamp and placed the leads in the water it would not conduct and light the lamp.
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It is not the water that conducts electricity but the stuff in it like salts etc or the salts on your skin.
I used to live in a city that if you took regular tap water and hooked up battery and lamp and placed the leads in the water it would not conduct and light the lamp.
I used to live in a city that if you took regular tap water and hooked up battery and lamp and placed the leads in the water it would not conduct and light the lamp.
Regardless, NO ONE would call this a bright idea, so let's all just get a laugh from it and move on
As for a conventional socket in a UK bathroom - how? Every one I've ever seen is transformer-isolated low current. Which strikes me as stupid, to be honest - it's no safer than a GFCI yet is very limiting in usefulness. But UK electrical code is very strict - you can't even have a light switch in a bathroom. It has to either be in the ceiling on a pull cord or outside the bathroom where your little cousins turn it on and off while you're in the shower (okay, that probably just happens to me).
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#42
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....by being more than three metres from the safety protection zones around the sink, shower and tub. Like I said though, how many UK bathrooms are big enough?
It's safer, because it isolates you from earth, so it's better than a gfci which would still pass many mA for a few milliseconds in the event of a fault.
There are arguments that the IEE has overegged the regs, particularly with pex plumbing rather changing the arguments.
Every one I've ever seen is transformer-isolated low current. Which strikes me as stupid, to be honest - it's no safer than a GFCI yet is very limiting in usefulness.
There are arguments that the IEE has overegged the regs, particularly with pex plumbing rather changing the arguments.
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....by being more than three metres from the safety protection zones around the sink, shower and tub. Like I said though, how many UK bathrooms are big enough?
It's safer, because it isolates you from earth, so it's better than a gfci which would still pass many mA for a few milliseconds in the event of a fault.
There are arguments that the IEE has overegged the regs, particularly with pex plumbing rather changing the arguments.
It's safer, because it isolates you from earth, so it's better than a gfci which would still pass many mA for a few milliseconds in the event of a fault.
There are arguments that the IEE has overegged the regs, particularly with pex plumbing rather changing the arguments.
2. Well, I think you mean it isolates you from the power source, isolation from the earth isn't exactly what's needed. But yeah, that's the argument. Reality is - GFCI's are very very safe and and transformer isolated sockets are very very safe. To get caught up in "well, is transformer isolation a wee bit safer?" The answer is - it may be, a tiny bit. But at the expense of massive inconvenience. No electricity at all would be far safer, but we pay the price for the convenience electricity brings us.
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Sorry, that last post shouldn't have been from my wife ;-)
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Isolation from earth means that since the source floats, you can't get a shock from it to ground. You can still get a shock rail to rail, even with an isolating transformer - and a GFCI wouldn't save you from a shock either.
Sorry, that last post shouldn't have been from my wife ;-)
Sorry, that last post shouldn't have been from my wife ;-)