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Bush signs Schiavo legislation
#181
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Perhaps....but its a bit scary that if we start exterminating one group level, we just might move on to the next level....
#182
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by Iginla
Because the whole bloody world with the exception of yourself doesn't believe that walking around with a plastic tube hanging out of your gut isn't artificial.
#183
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by fatbrit
The poor?
#184
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by fatbrit
The poor?
#185
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
No the Communists; them and their bloomin' national health service!
Black people, yellow people, green people, bloody foreginers, liberals, those who haven't accepted GWB as their personal saviour, etc.
#186
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Aren't they already being exterminated? Well in a very legal way of course.
ker-ching!
#187
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Black people, yellow people, green people, bloody foreginers, liberals, those who haven't accepted GWB as their personal saviour, etc.
#188
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
You're forgetting the people who don't wear tin foil on their heads; it's just not patriotic.
As long as they've run out of steam before they get to fat people, I'm okay!
#189
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by fatbrit
As long as they've run out of steam before they get to fat people, I'm okay!
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Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by candy wy.
no neither would i, but a dog would get an injection and put to sleep.
you would get prosecuted for animal cruelty if you starved it to death.
you would get prosecuted for animal cruelty if you starved it to death.
#191
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
It could be construed as that. Everyone needs nutrition, is that artificial?
#192
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by Iginla
Explain with a source to back it up how me claiming that A PEG feed is artificial is delusional.
Tell you what, find me one source that says it is natural and I'll concede defeat.
You can't!
Guess why?
Because the whole bloody world with the exception of yourself doesn't believe that walking around with a plastic tube hanging out of your gut isn't artificial.
Mmmm, and you call me brain damaged!
But, GASP!!!!
That would be murder!!!!
Eagerly anticipating your source to back up your rants!!! (lets face it, that's all they are.) Emotionally charged rants!
(a natural way of feeding )
Tell you what, find me one source that says it is natural and I'll concede defeat.
You can't!
Guess why?
Because the whole bloody world with the exception of yourself doesn't believe that walking around with a plastic tube hanging out of your gut isn't artificial.
Mmmm, and you call me brain damaged!
But, GASP!!!!
That would be murder!!!!
Eagerly anticipating your source to back up your rants!!! (lets face it, that's all they are.) Emotionally charged rants!
(a natural way of feeding )
http://www.spucscotland.org/educatio...yblandpvs.html
oh no a doctor in the british medical journal doesn't see tube feeding as artifical he sees it as a tool for daily living..
Last edited by candy wy.; Mar 25th 2005 at 12:18 am.
#193
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by Taffyles
Not if you removed its life support and allowed it to die naturally.
#194
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Re the judges - everyone in the media, internet boards etc keeps saying how they have had 16 judges look at this case and all have agreed with Michale Schiavo. My understanding is that the only judge who has actually gone through the evidence is Greer. The other courts have been dealing purely with the appropriateness of appeals or other judicial issues - NOT the facts of the case. I have asked so many times - what about the bone scan? What about the affidavits of friends and family saying that she was abused? What about the allegations of abuse now being brought to light? What about the allegations of withholding treatment? All allegations, but if she was your daughter, sister, niece - do you think you could honestly say that she should be starved to death without knowing if something might work?
My feel totally heartbroken at this. I guess everyone will just have to sit by as she is starved to death. I have talked to people today that were almost motivated to go to Florida to sit outside the hospice with the others praying for her life. How the HELL can those courts side with her husband I have no idea. He was all for doing everything possible to rehabilitate her and save her till he won that lawsuit. Then suddenly it was time for her to die. He has moved on with a new woman and children so how can his heart still be with Terri. But all that is overlooked and the government says DIE!
When you love someone deeply, when you are talking about a member of your family or someone close, when you have a long history with a person - and when that person is not capable of making their own decisions - and when there is no written documentation as to what that person desired should they become in an incapacitated state - then as a parent who loves that child - you should have the right to decide what is best for that child regardless of what age they are when this happens. People move on as Michael Schiavo clearly has, and if there is doubt that he might not have her best interests at heart, as many have said before, why not err on the side of life?
Why doesn't anyone realize why he is fighting for her death? Duh. He gets to keep the remains of the settlement in the malpractice suit (not much tho I wouldnt imagine). He gets to keep the full marital estate and assets, life insurance etc. He gets to get away with murdering his wife - with the full blessing of the legal system of this country.
Wonder what would happen if there was a law that said if you voluntarily withdraw feeding from a spouse then you don't get the life insurance. Things that make ya go hmmmmmm....
I rarely pray and am not a particularly religious person but I prayed for Terri. But those prayers went unanswered. Might have converted me too if things had turned out different.
Sorry for the long post, and I know most disagree with me, but I am so upset over this and had to try and explain why I feel the way I do.
My feel totally heartbroken at this. I guess everyone will just have to sit by as she is starved to death. I have talked to people today that were almost motivated to go to Florida to sit outside the hospice with the others praying for her life. How the HELL can those courts side with her husband I have no idea. He was all for doing everything possible to rehabilitate her and save her till he won that lawsuit. Then suddenly it was time for her to die. He has moved on with a new woman and children so how can his heart still be with Terri. But all that is overlooked and the government says DIE!
When you love someone deeply, when you are talking about a member of your family or someone close, when you have a long history with a person - and when that person is not capable of making their own decisions - and when there is no written documentation as to what that person desired should they become in an incapacitated state - then as a parent who loves that child - you should have the right to decide what is best for that child regardless of what age they are when this happens. People move on as Michael Schiavo clearly has, and if there is doubt that he might not have her best interests at heart, as many have said before, why not err on the side of life?
Why doesn't anyone realize why he is fighting for her death? Duh. He gets to keep the remains of the settlement in the malpractice suit (not much tho I wouldnt imagine). He gets to keep the full marital estate and assets, life insurance etc. He gets to get away with murdering his wife - with the full blessing of the legal system of this country.
Wonder what would happen if there was a law that said if you voluntarily withdraw feeding from a spouse then you don't get the life insurance. Things that make ya go hmmmmmm....
I rarely pray and am not a particularly religious person but I prayed for Terri. But those prayers went unanswered. Might have converted me too if things had turned out different.
Sorry for the long post, and I know most disagree with me, but I am so upset over this and had to try and explain why I feel the way I do.
#195
Re: Bush signs Schiavo legislation
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Not true!!! If the pastor says,...