JRG67

The Hitler Youth had some fun summer camps too..

GeoffM

There is a vaccine that helps protect against most types of cervical cancer, and IIRC early teen girls in the UK are now given it.

Should clarify: ought to hold immunisation history. It doesn't. My and my family's records were scattered across different GP surgeries with no central record.

AmerLisa

kodokan

And here they also recommend that boys get it; my 12 yr old son was offered it as part of his medical, but whilst I applaud the whole 'herd immunity, keep the girls as safe as possible' thing (I have a daughter too, after all), we declined, due to his extreme phobia about jabs. We have a deal that he mans up for the necessary ones, but that he doesn't have to get anything with a hint of optional* about it.

*Yes yes, I know that technically they're all 'optional', but you know what I mean.

scrubbedexpat097

Yes I know, it has been given here as well for sometime. But there is no vaccine yet that prevents cervical cancer. There are studies, and trials but it hasn't happened yet...

...I know!

JRG67

Why don't the American summer camps test for STDs if the purpose of a medical is prevention rather than cure?

Frankly, the whole idea of a medical for a summer camp seems preposterous to me.

JRG67

Once again, there is in Japan. Several of my colleagues were involved in its development. But hey, put your head in the sand if you want to.

Mr Weeze

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer_vaccine

dlake02

I was in school in the 1980s. There were no medical checks at all. Not even height or weight. Nothing. BCG at age 15, but nothing else.

JRG67

Tim Jeal, who wrote the biography Baden-Powell, argued that Baden-Powell's distrust of communism led to his implicit support, through naïveté, of fascism. In 1939 Baden-Powell noted in his diary: "Lay up all day. Read Mein Kampf. A wonderful book, with good ideas on education, health, propaganda, organisation etc. – and ideals which Hitler does not practise himself."[7]:550 Baden-Powell admired Benito Mussolini early in the Italian fascist leader's career.

Some very early Scouting "Thanks" badges had a swastika symbol on them.[45] According to biographer Michael Rosenthal, Baden-Powell used the swastika because he was a Nazi sympathiser. Jeal, however, argues that Baden-Powell was ignorant of the symbol's growing association with Nazism and that he used the symbol for its centuries-old meaning of "good luck" in India. Also, Baden-Powell was named by the Nazis in "The Black Book of people to be arrested during the conquest of Great Britain. Scouting was regarded as a dangerous spy organisation by the Nazis.[46] Finally, when Nazi use of the swastika became well-known, the Scouts stopped using it.

Don't send your son to summer camp!

scrubbedexpat097

Find the proof (link) and I'll read it.

If this is FDA approved and available then why has it had no publicity.

Head in the sand??? I don't think so.... but at least it's not up my @#se like some!

scrubbedexpat097

Yes, it helps prevent some strains that cause cancer but as yet not all.

Lion in Winter

The rationale, here, is that the child is away from home and the camp is responsible for the child. I'm pretty sure insurance companies require it. The camp where my son goes (not the Boy Scouts, I dislike their politics and some of their values) requires proof of a physical check up within the last two years. They also check them for fever and such when they arrive, because ill children are often sent to camp (the reservations are made and paid for well in advance, so the parents aren't going to make the child miss camp because of a fever or something, so the little darlings often bring their microbes with them). The proof is simply a doctor's record, they don't require that their own forms be filled out. At the check up they do height/weight, blood pressure, eyes, ears, listen to chest, etc. Given the number of hugely overweight children here, I don't find it out of order. And yes, at physical exams boys are checked for signs that puberty is proceeding normally.Frankly, if it isn't, I would want to know. There is a good deal of hypochondria in this country, but a simple physical exam before sending your child off in the hands of strangers really isn't a big deal. A simple physical exam for a child once a year to make sure everything as it should be doesn't strike me as hypochondria, either. If a camp is requiring its own "special" exam, and doesn't accept the normal medical check up that one might get for one's child anyway so that you have to get two, then it is a bit of a pain, but I've never met that, personally.

JRG67

Interesting. This is already out-of-date and makes no mention of Japan.

JRG67

I am not talking about America, so I don't know about the FDA. Dr. Ryo Konno has appeared many times on TV in Japan talking about the vaccine. I only know the articles that he has written in Japanese, but I will try to find-out what has been published in English.