Blatant drive by the UK government to weed off British citizens
#16
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Initially a major selling point of returning passport applications to the UK was that overseas customers would pay the UK price with only the extra courier fee added on. That decision has since been reversed and overseas customers will continue to pay the current higher overseas fee until further notice.
#18
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I was very impressed with the exception process that DC have for dealing with things - for some reason I hold out less hope that a UK based processing centre will be as understanding in dealing with such exceptions caused by the expat community. I hope to be proven wrong in 5 years time when the child's passport needs renewing again.
#19
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I was referring to the bollocks title implying that the govt are somehow trying to get rid of british citizens by forcing them to use a different office.
I never had anything but crap service from Washington, so I won't miss it at all. If (if!) moving it back to the UK means you can actually get hold of someone that knows what they are doing, without having to call a $4.95/minute call center in India, then "way to go" HM govt!
I do object to the higher price being maintained for an overseas application, which appears to be unjustified, and makes a mockery of the reasoning behind the existing differential. To be honest, I can't get excited about the couple of dollars, and couple of days difference in mailing to the UK vs mailing to Washington ... It probably equates to the hold time on the call center line...
I never had anything but crap service from Washington, so I won't miss it at all. If (if!) moving it back to the UK means you can actually get hold of someone that knows what they are doing, without having to call a $4.95/minute call center in India, then "way to go" HM govt!
I do object to the higher price being maintained for an overseas application, which appears to be unjustified, and makes a mockery of the reasoning behind the existing differential. To be honest, I can't get excited about the couple of dollars, and couple of days difference in mailing to the UK vs mailing to Washington ... It probably equates to the hold time on the call center line...
#20
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So what is to prevent you just having your new passport mailed to a relative in the UK? .... Or IF they're paying attention to where the application was mailed from, mailed via a relative?
#21
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But then you could do that now if you wanted and few people do. For most it's a once-in-ten-year event and if you do travel that frequently, then renew it when you're in the UK with the one day service.
#23
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That's what I did. Took a little over a week for a renewal and sons first application and cost about $150 or so less. Can't remember exactly, it may have been more.
#24
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Best we can hope is the passport price is the same, but with the delivery fee added as a seperate charge.
#25
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I have recently applied to renew my UK passport from the United States, and over 4 weeks after I still have not received the new passport or an update on my renewal application. When I called the British Embassy, Washington DC, I was shocked to find that that I could not speak to the Passport Processing Team, which is few blocks away from the Embassy. I was given a Passport Information Helpline +44 208 082 4729 in UK, and little did I know that the shock of my life was about to come with a message:
Calls will be charged to your credit card at GBP 0.72 + VAT per minute (your telephone provider may also charge for the international call). Please have your credit card available when calling.
I reluctantly paid to get my passport, and that was not straightforward nor made it easy. I was told to wait for a response in up to 3 days!
Luckily, the following day they left a telephone message for me along with this email:
Title: RE: Passport Application for ######### ######### USW--------------------------------------------
Dear ### ##############,
Thank you for your recent application(s) for a British passport.
In order for us to continue processing your application(s), you will need to provide the following documents/information:
Ø Current Photo ID –
o Send a good copy of the photo page of your non-UK passport
OR
o Send two forms of government issued photo ID (e.g. resident card, driving licence, work authorisation card, Canadian Health Card).
Ø Historical ID/Documentation – We require historical documentation such as:
o Original issued short form birth certificate
o Student ID cards, vaccination cards or any other form of photographic identification
o Documents obtained during your time in the United Kingdom (if applicable) i.e. National Health card, school reports, photographs, baby book. (????????????)
o Passport you exit the UK on (I thought they should have noted that this was sent along with my application ????????????)
• School reports from any country other than the UK covering as many years as possible. (Seriously? I am not that young to have kept my school report after several years?)
o Evidence of your identity in the form of bank statements, credit card statements, store card statements, social security card, pay statements, tax statements, utility bills etc.
o Original hospital records or medical documents from the time of your birth
Please send this to:
Attention: Pending Team
Washington RPPC
19 Observatory Circle NW
Washington, DC 20008
USA
Ref no: USW--------------------------------------------
Please supply the requested documentation/information within 30 days of this email, otherwise we will assume that you no longer wish to continue with your application(s) and it/they will be withdrawn. Any supporting documents will be returned to you by DHL.
Calls will be charged to your credit card at GBP 0.72 + VAT per minute (your telephone provider may also charge for the international call). Please have your credit card available when calling.
I reluctantly paid to get my passport, and that was not straightforward nor made it easy. I was told to wait for a response in up to 3 days!
Luckily, the following day they left a telephone message for me along with this email:
Title: RE: Passport Application for ######### ######### USW--------------------------------------------
Dear ### ##############,
Thank you for your recent application(s) for a British passport.
In order for us to continue processing your application(s), you will need to provide the following documents/information:
Ø Current Photo ID –
o Send a good copy of the photo page of your non-UK passport
OR
o Send two forms of government issued photo ID (e.g. resident card, driving licence, work authorisation card, Canadian Health Card).
Ø Historical ID/Documentation – We require historical documentation such as:
o Original issued short form birth certificate
o Student ID cards, vaccination cards or any other form of photographic identification
o Documents obtained during your time in the United Kingdom (if applicable) i.e. National Health card, school reports, photographs, baby book. (????????????)
o Passport you exit the UK on (I thought they should have noted that this was sent along with my application ????????????)
• School reports from any country other than the UK covering as many years as possible. (Seriously? I am not that young to have kept my school report after several years?)
o Evidence of your identity in the form of bank statements, credit card statements, store card statements, social security card, pay statements, tax statements, utility bills etc.
o Original hospital records or medical documents from the time of your birth
Please send this to:
Attention: Pending Team
Washington RPPC
19 Observatory Circle NW
Washington, DC 20008
USA
Ref no: USW--------------------------------------------
Please supply the requested documentation/information within 30 days of this email, otherwise we will assume that you no longer wish to continue with your application(s) and it/they will be withdrawn. Any supporting documents will be returned to you by DHL.
A request for this kind of information is absolutely not usual for a renewal of a passport. Either they have made a mistake (possible) or there is reason for doubt about either your identity and/or your British citizenship. Which means they are asking you to re-evidence both from documentation other than your existing passport.
Foreign Office policy states that fees for unsuccessful/withdrawn applications are not to be refunded (Another manna from heaven for Dave (Cameron) and Co!). If you wish to apply for a passport in the future you will be required to submit a new application together with supporting documents and fees.
Have things got so bad in UK that the Government has decided to declare foreign-based UK citizens persona non grata? Could weeding off UK citizens be a Tory form of enforcing austere measures too? I wonder.
All this changed under Labour (Blair). The overseas passport service was a lot better in the 1980s/90s before it got "outsourced" to private companies running premium rate phone lines, etc.
#26
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Re: Blatant drive by the UK government to weed off British citizens
I see where you're coming from.
My credit card was charged 5 months ago, and I am still waiting for my renewal passport.
I finally got through to someone on the phone ($) a month ago. He advised that the application is still sitting in Washington, DC, "awaiting security check from the UK". He further advised that there was nothing he could do to expedite it. Great service!
My credit card was charged 5 months ago, and I am still waiting for my renewal passport.
I finally got through to someone on the phone ($) a month ago. He advised that the application is still sitting in Washington, DC, "awaiting security check from the UK". He further advised that there was nothing he could do to expedite it. Great service!
#27
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I see where you're coming from.
My credit card was charged 5 months ago, and I am still waiting for my renewal passport.
I finally got through to someone on the phone ($) a month ago. He advised that the application is still sitting in Washington, DC, "awaiting security check from the UK". He further advised that there was nothing he could do to expedite it. Great service!
My credit card was charged 5 months ago, and I am still waiting for my renewal passport.
I finally got through to someone on the phone ($) a month ago. He advised that the application is still sitting in Washington, DC, "awaiting security check from the UK". He further advised that there was nothing he could do to expedite it. Great service!
#28
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Joined: Jun 2013
Location: NY
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Re: Blatant drive by the UK government to weed off British citizens
Hmmm, does it take 5 months to figure that out? It's not a common name. So much for high tech.
#29
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Location: NY
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Re: Blatant drive by the UK government to weed off British citizens
received passport yesterday, July 5th. No explanation/apology for delay. Guess I'm now g2g