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markonline1 Apr 15th 2014 12:11 am

Re: becoming a police officer
 
UK cops don't need any A - levels. As half of my family are all cops, including my ex wife, I'm not gonna knock them. They are a damn site better than the police over here from my dealings with them.

hungryhorace Apr 15th 2014 12:13 am

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Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11219178)
UK cops don't need any A - levels. As half of my family are all cops, including my ex wife, I'm not gonna knock them. They are a damn site better than the police over here from my dealings with them.

You need a minimum of 2 A-levels now.

markonline1 Apr 15th 2014 12:14 am

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Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11219182)
You need a minimum of 2 A-levels now.

Really? Is that every force?

MMcD Apr 15th 2014 12:14 am

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Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 11219024)
Our guys on joining and going the academy with their benefits package get the equivalent of $96K a year, in their first year.


Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11219071)
That's insane. Are these cops even educated? I know UK cops aren't for example.

You "know" nothing - as that thoughtless, insult demonstrates.
Furthermore, an apology is owed to the person to whom you addressed your remark.
But I would imagine your rude insensitivity is on a par with your callousness. Hence nothing of the sort will be forthcoming.
Go ahead: prove me wrong.

hungryhorace Apr 15th 2014 1:28 am

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Originally Posted by MMcD (Post 11219186)
You "know" nothing - as that thoughtless, insult demonstrates.
Furthermore, an apology is owed to the person to whom you addressed your remark.
But I would imagine your rude insensitivity is on a par with your callousness. Hence nothing of the sort will be forthcoming.
Go ahead: prove me wrong.

Oh do give over. Search google, there's multiple statistics about to prove my point.

For example, Tom Windsor feels the same as I do about the intellectual standard of UK cops: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/m...y-redundancies and more here http://metro.co.uk/2011/09/14/police...lawyer-149468/

Do you also know less than a third of UK police officers hold a degree?

I won't even start to mention the corrupt police federation members who attempted to fit up a Cabinet minister or the actions of scum like officer Simon Harwood. I could write for hours on police incompetence, corruption and general low quality of policing in the UK if you'd like?

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 15th 2014 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by hungryhorace (Post 11218667)
Just seeing CPD offer $65k after 18 months as the UK equivalent to a constable (who makes 18K GBP basic + overtime).

That's insanely high, unless somehow American cops are infinitely more educated than UK plod (which has a very low academic entrance requirement) I fail to see the justification for such a high wage after only 18 months.

I guess most of that is bloody money, given how violent Chicago is.

Depending on department and size of the city, unless they offer a decent pay they can find it very hard to attract and retain officers long term, more then 1 city has learned this over the years.

Not sure if its the case anymore, but San Diego was having quite the difficult time a few years back attracting and retaining officers because the pay was not competitive.

May seem like a high pay, but could very well be the pay needed to attract and retain people.

jimmymac96 Apr 15th 2014 9:40 am

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Does anyone know much about the new orleans police department? I heard pay isn't great and I heard new orleans is dangerous. How easy is it to get selected compared to departments such as CPD or LAPD?

Dorothy Apr 15th 2014 9:59 am

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Originally Posted by jimmymac96 (Post 11219684)
Does anyone know much about the new orleans police department? I heard pay isn't great and I heard new orleans is dangerous. How easy is it to get selected compared to departments such as CPD or LAPD?

Is your Google broken? http://www.nola.gov/nopd/police-recruiting/

Seriously, if you want to emigrate and get a job you're going to have to start doing some research on your own. Not just ask people to do it for you.

Voltore Apr 15th 2014 11:40 am

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I know of a Scottish cop in Fairfax County in Northern Virginia. However he was a cop in the Met, then met and married a local girl here. He had to wait until he filed his citizenship papers before FCPD looked at him, but then they took him with open arms.

That's another way, get some UK experience as a cop too.

Bob Apr 15th 2014 3:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 11218978)
Plus they accumulate all the sick days, year after year...they can walk away with a pot of gold in back payments.

Aye, that was the real big stink, both for staties and those working the ports who were being made to take early retirement who had accumulated a hell of a lot of banked holiday and sick time over the years that some of the folks were going to be hitting a million buck mark payout for final year salary payout on top.

bewildering Apr 15th 2014 4:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11219666)
Not sure if its the case anymore, but San Diego was having quite the difficult time a few years back attracting and retaining officers because the pay was not competitive.

May seem like a high pay, but could very well be the pay needed to attract and retain people.

That was the claim in San Diego. But a local rag did an article pointing out that this claim was crap. There is, and never will be, a shortage of people wanting to join the police force. Especially in a military town like San Diego. What else can military people do other than police or fire? NYPD hold a recruitment class every year in San Diego that is many times oversubscribed.

They just have very powerful influence within San Diego and great connections to media to spread their "we are poorly paid, overworked but need more overtime nonsense"

Look at the lack of criticism in the media when their influence is revealed.

As an example, my friends car was hit and totaled from behind on the I5 by a either drunk, or drugged up, fireman. The police claimed they had no record of the incident even though they attended the scene and drove the guy home (!). The insurance company of the guy refused to pay becasue there was no police record. My friends problem was that he did not have comprehensive insurance, so his insurance company did not take care of him. Get good car insurance in the USA.

jimmymac96 Apr 15th 2014 5:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 11219707)
Is your Google broken? http://www.nola.gov/nopd/police-recruiting/

Seriously, if you want to emigrate and get a job you're going to have to start doing some research on your own. Not just ask people to do it for you.

I've done my research from what I've seen it is easier to get into than some other bigger departments like the ones stated above, I just wanted other peoples opinions on which is easier, and what other people may know about NOPD which I don't know. I know what I've researched but I don't always spot everything sometimes people here can offer their advice and opinions.

jimmymac96 Apr 17th 2014 3:30 pm

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Also, does anyone know when i sit the medical, and if they ask for my medical records and they get a copy of my medical records since i've lived in the US is that enough? Because I'm originally from the uk..

Nutmegger Apr 17th 2014 3:41 pm

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Originally Posted by jimmymac96 (Post 11223422)
Also, does anyone know when i sit the medical, and if they ask for my medical records and they get a copy of my medical records since i've lived in the US is that enough? Because I'm originally from the uk..

How can anyone know when you haven't decided what city you will apply to, and this is all pie in the sky anyway since it isn't going to happen until you marry your US girlfriend, in your own words "in a couple years time."

When you are in a position to apply, the jurisdiction you have chosen will give instructions for potential applicants when they are hiring.

Bob Apr 17th 2014 3:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Nutmegger (Post 11223439)
How can anyone know when you haven't decided what city you will apply to, and this is all pie in the sky anyway since it isn't going to happen until you marry your US girlfriend, in your own words "in a couple years time."

When you are in a position to apply, the jurisdiction you have chosen will give instructions for potential applicants when they are hiring.

And between now and then, who knows what the employment and hiring situation might be like.


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