Bachelors degree
May 4th 2008, 5:46 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
Just being an accountant does not make someone an expert on qualification equivalency levels.
The list you give is meaningless because "NVQ4" encompasses HNC, HND and first degrees. A HND is definitely a higher qualification than HNC, and a degree is higher than both.
I very much doubt that any qualification assessment service out there will accept AAT as being equivalent to a bachelors degree.
The list you give is meaningless because "NVQ4" encompasses HNC, HND and first degrees. A HND is definitely a higher qualification than HNC, and a degree is higher than both.
I very much doubt that any qualification assessment service out there will accept AAT as being equivalent to a bachelors degree.
May 4th 2008, 8:21 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
I was told by an accountant it was equivalent to a bachelors degree, and I found this.
Approximate academic equivalents
NVQ 1 = foundation GNVQ, three to four GCSEs at grades D-E, Business & Technology Education Council (BTEC) first certificate.
NVQ 2 = four to five GCSEs at grades A*-C, BTEC first diploma.
NVQ 3 = two or more A levels, BTEC Ordinary National Diploma (OND), City & Guilds Advanced Craft.
NVQ 4 = BTEC Higher National Certificate (HNC) or Higher National Diploma (HND), or a First Academic Degree (B.Sc., B.A., B.Eng. or other academic degree).
NVQ 5 = postgraduate qualification or higher degree, such as M.Sc., M.A., M.Eng. or Ph.D.
Approximate academic equivalents
NVQ 1 = foundation GNVQ, three to four GCSEs at grades D-E, Business & Technology Education Council (BTEC) first certificate.
NVQ 2 = four to five GCSEs at grades A*-C, BTEC first diploma.
NVQ 3 = two or more A levels, BTEC Ordinary National Diploma (OND), City & Guilds Advanced Craft.
NVQ 4 = BTEC Higher National Certificate (HNC) or Higher National Diploma (HND), or a First Academic Degree (B.Sc., B.A., B.Eng. or other academic degree).
NVQ 5 = postgraduate qualification or higher degree, such as M.Sc., M.A., M.Eng. or Ph.D.
May 4th 2008, 10:17 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
If you find a reputable evaluation service (member of NACES) prepared to rate AAT as equivalent to an American bachelors degree then we'll all be interested to hear that. But so far you've not shown any evidence that it's even equivalent to a British bachelors degree.
May 5th 2008, 2:59 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
My husband has the AAT qualifications and it's not treated as equivalent to a bachelors in any of the countries we've lived in, including the UK. AAT means you are a qualified accounting technician not a qualified accountant. I'm sure that CIMA or ACCA would be considered as equivalent to a bachelors in some cases. But AAT? Not a chance. Sorry if that isn't the answer you wanted.
May 5th 2008, 3:22 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
I have AAT and am part qualified CIMA and have been told that my qualifications are equivalent to a US bachelors degree (thank goodness or my company wouldn't have accepted me even though I work for them in the UK). If you work for a big company and they are transferring you they have legal teams to deal with this. Unfortunately I do not know any way around it if you don't have this.
I had a really stressful time tryinging to prove my qualifications were 'worthy' of US standards so don't give up hope...just keep trying. Definitely try the WES website....that would have been my last point of call.
I had a really stressful time tryinging to prove my qualifications were 'worthy' of US standards so don't give up hope...just keep trying. Definitely try the WES website....that would have been my last point of call.
May 5th 2008, 7:55 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
NVQ's mean toilet paper over here...if it ain't a degree it ain't a degree and getting something converted holds about as much worth as the french military might.
Play to your experiences and your contacts to get you past the initial web site hump is always the best way....
Play to your experiences and your contacts to get you past the initial web site hump is always the best way....
May 5th 2008, 8:02 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
I was told by an accountant it was equivalent to a bachelors degree, and I found this.
Approximate academic equivalents
NVQ 1 = foundation GNVQ, three to four GCSEs at grades D-E, Business & Technology Education Council (BTEC) first certificate.
NVQ 2 = four to five GCSEs at grades A*-C, BTEC first diploma.
NVQ 3 = two or more A levels, BTEC Ordinary National Diploma (OND), City & Guilds Advanced Craft.
NVQ 4 = BTEC Higher National Certificate (HNC) or Higher National Diploma (HND), or a First Academic Degree (B.Sc., B.A., B.Eng. or other academic degree).
NVQ 5 = postgraduate qualification or higher degree, such as M.Sc., M.A., M.Eng. or Ph.D.
Approximate academic equivalents
NVQ 1 = foundation GNVQ, three to four GCSEs at grades D-E, Business & Technology Education Council (BTEC) first certificate.
NVQ 2 = four to five GCSEs at grades A*-C, BTEC first diploma.
NVQ 3 = two or more A levels, BTEC Ordinary National Diploma (OND), City & Guilds Advanced Craft.
NVQ 4 = BTEC Higher National Certificate (HNC) or Higher National Diploma (HND), or a First Academic Degree (B.Sc., B.A., B.Eng. or other academic degree).
NVQ 5 = postgraduate qualification or higher degree, such as M.Sc., M.A., M.Eng. or Ph.D.
May 5th 2008, 10:04 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
If you learned how to use a Search engine in your degree program, you should be able to find that this question has been covered many times before. Search for "degree" in the US Forum.
May 5th 2008, 10:11 pm
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Re: Bachelors degree
According to the UK government's 1997 National Committee of Inquiry into Higher Education (Dearing Report):
"The American high school diploma compares in standard with GCSE and the
associate degree with GCE A-level and Advanced GNVQ, the bachelor’s degree with a UK pass degree or higher national diploma and the Master’s degree with a bachelor’s honours degree from a British university."
Your UK Bachelors degree will be viewed as the same as a US degree. You may need to have it "verified" by a company such as WES www.wes.org
WES will basically rubber stamp your degree and provide you with a document that shows that in their "estimation" (I quote) your degree is to be considered the same as a US one. They did this when I had them 'evaluate' my degree.
Hope that helps.
MH
"The American high school diploma compares in standard with GCSE and the
associate degree with GCE A-level and Advanced GNVQ, the bachelor’s degree with a UK pass degree or higher national diploma and the Master’s degree with a bachelor’s honours degree from a British university."
Your UK Bachelors degree will be viewed as the same as a US degree. You may need to have it "verified" by a company such as WES www.wes.org
WES will basically rubber stamp your degree and provide you with a document that shows that in their "estimation" (I quote) your degree is to be considered the same as a US one. They did this when I had them 'evaluate' my degree.
Hope that helps.
MH
May 6th 2008, 12:10 am
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Re: Bachelors degree
I remember they offered GNVQs at my school. Some (not me I should add) had some wonderful interpretations for the acronym:
Getting Nowhere Very Quickly
Generally Not Very Qualified
No insult intended... just couldn't help but laugh
I had a colleague who put on his US resume that his HND was the equivalent of a bachelors. That seemed an incredible stretch!
Getting Nowhere Very Quickly
Generally Not Very Qualified
No insult intended... just couldn't help but laugh
I had a colleague who put on his US resume that his HND was the equivalent of a bachelors. That seemed an incredible stretch!
May 7th 2008, 2:10 am
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Re: Bachelors degree
Don't shoot the messenger, I was just cutting and pasting......
May 7th 2008, 2:17 am
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Re: Bachelors degree
I remember they offered GNVQs at my school. Some (not me I should add) had some wonderful interpretations for the acronym:
Getting Nowhere Very Quickly
Generally Not Very Qualified
No insult intended... just couldn't help but laugh
I had a colleague who put on his US resume that his HND was the equivalent of a bachelors. That seemed an incredible stretch!
Getting Nowhere Very Quickly
Generally Not Very Qualified
No insult intended... just couldn't help but laugh
I had a colleague who put on his US resume that his HND was the equivalent of a bachelors. That seemed an incredible stretch!
May 7th 2008, 4:25 am
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Re: Bachelors degree
In most cases the are the same, depends on the company.
