Automatic or Manual (stick shift)
#46
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I have an auto, but of course drive a living room couch
The toys I've had (including a TR7, my favorite) were all manuals. When I own pickups I also prefer manual (more durable in my experience).
Last I was over England way my grands friend had this giant RV, manual. It was interesting to watch this 60+ year old little lady climb in that thing and tear down the road lol.
Pete
The toys I've had (including a TR7, my favorite) were all manuals. When I own pickups I also prefer manual (more durable in my experience).
Last I was over England way my grands friend had this giant RV, manual. It was interesting to watch this 60+ year old little lady climb in that thing and tear down the road lol.
Pete
#49
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For a moment there I though you were referring to a Lincoln Towncar.
Hangs head, yes I drive a Lincoln Towncar. It was an inheritance car so I can't complain too much. Gets terrible mileage in town (low teens probably) which is ironic given its name. Cruising long distance at silly speeds it creeps up to almost 25 mpg though.
Hangs head, yes I drive a Lincoln Towncar. It was an inheritance car so I can't complain too much. Gets terrible mileage in town (low teens probably) which is ironic given its name. Cruising long distance at silly speeds it creeps up to almost 25 mpg though.
#52
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I understand all the arguments for only having manual transmission on a performance car... but most of them are now outdated.
Better performance? Automatic (well, strictly DCT) BMW M3s are quicker around a track than manuals.
Better gas mileage? Also not the case with many current automatics.
Better control? That's a matter of taste. I prefer manual shifting my automatic for control than I do driving with a clutch, but I know that's a personal choice.
In the end, there are fewer and fewer strong arguments for driving a manual other than personal taste. If you like them, get one. Just don't expect everyone who might want to buy your car to have the same opinion of manuals!
Better performance? Automatic (well, strictly DCT) BMW M3s are quicker around a track than manuals.
Better gas mileage? Also not the case with many current automatics.
Better control? That's a matter of taste. I prefer manual shifting my automatic for control than I do driving with a clutch, but I know that's a personal choice.
In the end, there are fewer and fewer strong arguments for driving a manual other than personal taste. If you like them, get one. Just don't expect everyone who might want to buy your car to have the same opinion of manuals!
I 'grew up' driving manuals in UK, where you were laughed at if you had an automatic. When I got here, I tried to buy a manual but ended up buying an automatic because a) it was easier to find a used car with automatic, and b) everyone said it would be easier to sell. After driving it for a few months, I knew then I would never go back to manuals.
My current car - Acura TL - has what I would call a full manual mode; in that mode, you can floor it in first and the thing will red-line without shifting. I can switch gears at a flick of the 'stick' (newer models have the 'paddle' shifters on the steering wheel). In 5 years, I'ved used this mode exactly once, making me think it was an expensive feature I didn't need, but it gives you all the control of a manual if you want it.
One minor advantage of automatics - allows you to keep both hands on the wheel at all times. Driving around a series of tight curves on a grade, requiring constant shifting, requires to you be driving with only one hand on the wheel at key times ... I was reminded of this while driving on highway 1 in Marin County last week!
#53
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Nutek, LOL! They used to say here, British cars are for folks who like to drive, and like to walk. On the same outing! I loved that car though, out of the TR7, a MR2, RX7, & X1/9 it was my favorite, so fun to drive. Sooner of later I'll get another.
sir eccles, yes, a baby blue 85 Towncar, my baby. I'm about to commit infanticide though. My other car is a 03 Grand Marquis. Bulletproof old 'American' style cars, largish, body on frame, V8, RWD. Room for 4 bodies in the trunk. 5 if you mush'em in.
Btw, if you ever need mech help on yours I know a little, and know folks who know a lot, just drop me a line. I've owned 7 full size Fords.
Pete
sir eccles, yes, a baby blue 85 Towncar, my baby. I'm about to commit infanticide though. My other car is a 03 Grand Marquis. Bulletproof old 'American' style cars, largish, body on frame, V8, RWD. Room for 4 bodies in the trunk. 5 if you mush'em in.
Btw, if you ever need mech help on yours I know a little, and know folks who know a lot, just drop me a line. I've owned 7 full size Fords.
Pete
Last edited by MostlyYank; Jul 10th 2012 at 3:32 pm.
#55
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Talking of road trips, this was a fun road in the Towncar. It's called the Moki Dugway:
#57
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He uses a works Ram, it's shit, but he's able to use free petrol, the farmers stuff as he travels 2-3 hrs one way to work in it...about 100miles, so it's not distance, it's just up log mountain roads and it has the shit standard suspension.
The new Chevy, off road, feels so much better than his older one too and it gets the same mileage as the diesel version, but about $10K cheaper
#58
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The best anti-theft device for your car is a stick shift, or standard transmission as they're called here.
I can't really see much point to stick shift here, endless sets of traffic lights make them pointless. You're not going to achieve better fuel efficiency and upshifting and downshifting is just annoying.
I can't really see much point to stick shift here, endless sets of traffic lights make them pointless. You're not going to achieve better fuel efficiency and upshifting and downshifting is just annoying.
#59
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There are lots of other types of transmission, e.g. Tiptronic and the paddle shifters and so on.
Still can't see the point. Can never see the point to a car that can go faster than 85mph, which I think is the highest speed limit in North America.
I've never really understood why they don't just put speed limiters on cars, they do on trucks in Europe.
Used to be various stupid arguments that they didn't work properly but BMW, Audi etc have been using electronic speed limiters to limit their cars to 250 km/h for ages now, why not set them to 140 km/h?
What is the purpose of being able to drive faster than 85mph? Wastes gas, get bigger fines, roads aren't designed for it.
But I digress.
Still can't see the point. Can never see the point to a car that can go faster than 85mph, which I think is the highest speed limit in North America.
I've never really understood why they don't just put speed limiters on cars, they do on trucks in Europe.
Used to be various stupid arguments that they didn't work properly but BMW, Audi etc have been using electronic speed limiters to limit their cars to 250 km/h for ages now, why not set them to 140 km/h?
What is the purpose of being able to drive faster than 85mph? Wastes gas, get bigger fines, roads aren't designed for it.
But I digress.
#60
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.....and Canada, too.
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tru...cklimits.shtml
They're slowing spreading through many of the Provinces.
Jim.