Aus (back) to UK - Super question
#1
Hello.
We are moving to Sydney very soon, with a real possibility of returning to the UK at some point (perhaps in retirement).
My question relates to the Super fund that I hope to build up over the coming years.
The access and taxation rules are quite specific to Australia (e.g. access age, 15% up to $1m for specific elements, etc.). How do these relate to UK taxation rules? i.e. assuming the UK tax rate is higher (e.g. 40%), does any UK taxation take into consideration the fact that the fund includes contributions which were taxed on entry (15%), contributions from income in the fund (again, 15%), etc.?
I know its a complex area, and will differ depending on a number of personal factors, but was hoping that someone could offer some insight on this. It's relevant now, as we need to decide what to do with our UK pensions.
TIA.
We are moving to Sydney very soon, with a real possibility of returning to the UK at some point (perhaps in retirement).
My question relates to the Super fund that I hope to build up over the coming years.
The access and taxation rules are quite specific to Australia (e.g. access age, 15% up to $1m for specific elements, etc.). How do these relate to UK taxation rules? i.e. assuming the UK tax rate is higher (e.g. 40%), does any UK taxation take into consideration the fact that the fund includes contributions which were taxed on entry (15%), contributions from income in the fund (again, 15%), etc.?
I know its a complex area, and will differ depending on a number of personal factors, but was hoping that someone could offer some insight on this. It's relevant now, as we need to decide what to do with our UK pensions.
TIA.
#2




Joined: Jul 2007
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I don't have a clue about the tax. But you do know that you cannot move your Super from Australia or access it in any way (unless you're retirement age or on a temp visa)? So I'd be wary about moving any UK pension over here if you are thinking of returning to UK at all.
#3
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If you're sure you may return to UK at some stage I certainly woudn't move any UK pensions to Oz. Think you'll find that there are all sorts of tax implications on transfering back. No doubt someone on BE will have all the answers for you soon.
#4
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Don't have any advice, I'm afraid, but your avatar is so cute and made me smile.
#5
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I was told that if i moved my pensions to OZ, then i wouldn't be able to ever move them back to UK...so i froze them in UK...good job as we are going back.
#6

But, I have to say - Nu-Shooz, your avatar makes me laugh everytime I see it (love that one)!
Sorry, I don't have any info. to pass on either, but I think Nu-Shooz has given you a great answer.
#7
Thanks to everyone for their thoughts.
I knew that we couldn't move any Super funds to the UK, but I'm a little unclear as to why this is a bad thing - i.e. really understanding what the disadvantage is in leaving the pensions (including any transfer) in Aus and access upon retirement.
Obviously we could be at the whim of two governments, and any tax changes that they introduce, its more complex than leaving in the UK, etc.
I was hoping for a little more insight on the taxation angle in particular.
Thanks anyway.
I knew that we couldn't move any Super funds to the UK, but I'm a little unclear as to why this is a bad thing - i.e. really understanding what the disadvantage is in leaving the pensions (including any transfer) in Aus and access upon retirement.
Obviously we could be at the whim of two governments, and any tax changes that they introduce, its more complex than leaving in the UK, etc.
I was hoping for a little more insight on the taxation angle in particular.
Thanks anyway.
#8
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 31



Thanks to everyone for their thoughts.
I knew that we couldn't move any Super funds to the UK, but I'm a little unclear as to why this is a bad thing - i.e. really understanding what the disadvantage is in leaving the pensions (including any transfer) in Aus and access upon retirement.
Obviously we could be at the whim of two governments, and any tax changes that they introduce, its more complex than leaving in the UK, etc.
I was hoping for a little more insight on the taxation angle in particular.
Thanks anyway.
I knew that we couldn't move any Super funds to the UK, but I'm a little unclear as to why this is a bad thing - i.e. really understanding what the disadvantage is in leaving the pensions (including any transfer) in Aus and access upon retirement.
Obviously we could be at the whim of two governments, and any tax changes that they introduce, its more complex than leaving in the UK, etc.
I was hoping for a little more insight on the taxation angle in particular.
Thanks anyway.




