An Article sure to raise a septics eyebrow..
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I just found the mentality of my American work mates infuriating at best ...moronic at worst. To them a terrorist is somebody who is anti American, and thats it really.
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I think most British people would now be as ignorant to what happened as any American. History dulls feelings-unless there was a personal loss-the feelings and passion fades. I remember the Birmingham bombs,I remember my parents being shocked, but its all dull memory.
Britain is good at not remembering its dead, America is much better.
Britain is good at not remembering its dead, America is much better.
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At the same time, the US could have done more to pressure the UK government to protect the human rights of Catholics in NI, which might have prevented the Troubles from occurring in the first place - and strengthened e.g. the UK's ability to support the US militarily in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
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I doubt anyone would claim it does. However, I can certainly sympathize with the person you were replying to in that it has become all too common to try to pin the "terrorist" label to those that happen to oppose the US and in particular its foreign policies.
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did send in the SAS to help train US troops though...
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No, I'm sure you're right that direct military involvement was pretty unlikely. All the same, in a world of hypotheticals, if the UK hadn't had to commit that many troops to Northern Ireland, perhaps it could have freed up US troops (Germany?) which could have fought in Vietnam. Mind you, Australia sent troops to Vietnam (including Jim Robinson), so maybe it wasn't quite so unthinkable.
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I think there was element of remember the Suez canal? in Wilson's no response.
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No, I'm sure you're right that direct military involvement was pretty unlikely. All the same, in a world of hypotheticals, if the UK hadn't had to commit that many troops to Northern Ireland, perhaps it could have freed up US troops (Germany?) which could have fought in Vietnam. Mind you, Australia sent troops to Vietnam (including Jim Robinson), so maybe it wasn't quite so unthinkable.
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Most probably, although the lack of political and public support made it political suicide for him to take such a decision. Of course, one could also argue that Suez also had an influence on public opinion also being overwhelmingly against involvement as well.
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Because until it hits close to home, then it's just a tragic incident that happened to someone else, somewhere else.