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Old Dec 26th 2014, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Tegwyn
. Firstly, you really have to have stuffed up royally to get deported, and there are other jobs out there if you lose the one you have. Sure, challenges prevail but if you are of a rational mind, you usually try to avoid the usual land mines. Most resourceful folk do what it takes to move on from a challenge - and can do so quite successfully. Should one choose a life of crime, or come here illegally, your odds of getting booted rises exponentially.
To get "deported" you probably have to get a felony conviction. If sacked don't you have to leave the country immediately because the sponsorship of your visa terminates and you start to garner illegal presence? If you are sacked from a company due to your own conduct it could be hard to get another job without a reference from that previous employer? Some employers will sack based on a charge alone without conviction won't they?
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Old Dec 26th 2014, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Tegwyn
Are you suggesting that the Brit that killed that policeman did so because he lived in Oklahoma?
The death of the policeman happened in Liverpool England. The footballl coach worked on Oklahoma City and was at home in liverpool at the time for christmas. He had been at home in liverpool for a week prior to the killing. It will come out at trial but the off duty officers appear to have been recognised by spendlove and his mates as police officers.

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Old Dec 26th 2014, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by johnnybrown532
The death of the policeman happened in Liverpool England. The footballl coach worked on Oklahoma City and was at home in liverpool at the time for christmas. He had been at home in liverpool for a week prior to the killing. It will come out at trial but the off duty officers appear to have been recognised by spendlove and his mates as police officers.
Its very sad. Especially as I used to work for the police and as a profession we are a close family.
But I don't see how one toerag, home on holiday, proves that we are all likely to g out, get arsed, and then kills someone, just cos we heppen to be British?
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Old Dec 26th 2014, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Its very sad. Especially as I used to work for the police and as a profession we are a close family.
But I don't see how one toerag, home on holiday, proves that we are all likely to g out, get arsed, and then kills someone, just cos we heppen to be British?
It's a massive tragedy both accused men had really done something with their lives . It could have happened anywhere in the country a lot of lives are senselessly wrecked this way. This is down once to again to the english binge drinking culture. The violence in america is down to american gun and gang culture in the inner cities they have the gang gun culture we have the binge drinking culture. Neither will ever change no matter how hard anyone tries.

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Old Dec 26th 2014, 4:40 pm
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If sacked don't you have to leave the country immediately

No. Stop talking dribble.
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Old Dec 26th 2014, 5:10 pm
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No. Stop talking dribble.
So at what point are you considered out of status once you lose your h1b or L1 job or your E2 company goes bust?
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That's not what your question was.
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Old Dec 26th 2014, 8:04 pm
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Guns are not outlawed in the US , but they are very much in my old home town of Sheffield Yorkshire where someone was just shot and killed
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Originally Posted by Tegwyn
Are you suggesting that the Brit that killed that policeman did so because he lived in Oklahoma?
If you've ever been to Oklahoma, you would know how suicidal it can make you feel, homicide doesn't seem such a leap.
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We have shootings in Canada too, this one appears to fairly minor and doesn't say who the victim is, but my guess gang related.

Ottawa's Tanger Outlets mall shooting injures 1 - Ottawa - CBC News

Generally though, shootings are almost always gang related and unless in a gang, you have a low risk of being shot here.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Oh no, my daughter is going into a war zone for New Year's Eve.

just stay out of the black part of town.
Tell us Sally, when you lived in LA how often would you wonder into SE LA?

I do like your avatar's though. Keep 'em coming.
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I live in Texas, in the suburbs bordering on the old towns, I know many of my neighbours have shotguns, and probably handguns quite a few too, but I NEVER EVER see a gun except on a police officer or security guard. It's not like they're all running around brandishing weapons...concealed=hidden!
The only gun violence I have known of personally were suicides, which is sad.

My only anger with guns in the US is when adults leave them around for children to use- they should be in gun safes.
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My only anger with guns in the US is when adults leave them around for children to use- they should be in gun safes.
And gun locks.
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Old Dec 27th 2014, 3:11 am
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I live in Texas, in the suburbs bordering on the old towns, I know many of my neighbours have shotguns, and probably handguns quite a few too, but I NEVER EVER see a gun except on a police officer or security guard. It's not like they're all running around brandishing weapons...concealed=hidden! .....
Interestingly, despite the popular stereotype of Texans, Texas has only the
thirtieth highest percentage of gun ownership by state, at 35.9%. Even North Carolina is higher, in 23rd place with 41.3% gun ownership.

Also, perhaps even more bizarrely, and counter to the stereotype of gun-toting Texans, Texas is only of only SIX states where "open carry" is prohibited, along side generally gun-unfriendly states of California, Illinois, and New York. Also SC and FL.

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Interestingly, despite the popular stereotype of Texans, Texas has only the
thirtieth highest percentage of gun ownership by state, at 35.9%. Even North Carolina is higher, in 23rd place with 41.3% gun ownership.

Also, perhaps even more bizarrely, and counter to the stereotype of gun-toting Texans, Texas is only of only SIX states where "open carry" is prohibited, along side generally gun-unfriendly states of California, Illinois, and New York. Also SC and FL.
Our new Governor may change all that starting January. This could be worse than Rick "look at me, kissy kissy" Perry
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