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N1cky Apr 9th 2009 9:13 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by exvj (Post 7467464)
And when you have been 'improved' and turned into an american - a 'have a nice day ' brainwashed walmart associate clone, you can send a telegram to the white house thanking them for your cultural re-alignment and how much more of a nicer person you feel now

I bought some Walmart shares today in order to benefit from their exploitation so I shouldn't complain

You do make me laugh. You're not taking the piss are you?

meauxna Apr 9th 2009 9:14 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by exvj (Post 7467464)
And when you have been 'improved' and turned into an american - a 'have a nice day ' brainwashed walmart associate clone, you can send a telegram to the white house thanking them for your cultural re-alignment and how much more of a nicer person you feel now

I bought some Walmart shares today in order to benefit from their exploitation so I shouldn't complain

The reason I can not respond to you with specific complaints about what you actually post is because it is such reactionary crap that clearly misses the point *every time* and I can only conclude that you're as socially inept as you appear.
This is yet another example.


N1cky: he's not taking the piss, that's why it's not funny in the least. I mean, it makes one laugh, but that isn't the same.

exvj Apr 9th 2009 9:14 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by N1cky (Post 7467475)
You do make me laugh. You're not taking the piss are you?

wood eye !

exvj Apr 9th 2009 9:16 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 7467478)
The reason I can not respond to you with specific complaints about what you actually post is because it is such reactionary crap that clearly misses the point *every time* and I can only conclude that you're as socially inept as you appear.
This is yet another example.


N1cky: he's not taking the piss, that's why it's not funny in the least. I mean, it makes one laugh, but that isn't the same.

If things that you don't find funny make you laugh, we can only hope your psychologist friend (backup) turns up soon

exvj Apr 9th 2009 9:21 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 
Anyway this is a site for British expats to swap experiences. Why should we be policed and slapped down my americans or 'gone natives' who roam this site when we want to say the tiniest thing uncomplimentary about the americans ?

Can't we have some privacy ?

Bill_S Apr 9th 2009 9:21 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 7467478)
The reason I can not respond to you with specific complaints about what you actually post is because it is such reactionary crap that clearly misses the point *every time* and I can only conclude that you're as socially inept as you appear.
This is yet another example.

When I saw that this thread had suddenly jumped to 5 pages, I bet myself 10 bucks that exvj had turned up. I won the bet! Keep it up mate, I'll be a rich man by the end of the night!

N1cky Apr 9th 2009 9:25 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 7467469)
Dale Carnegie said, 'We can not afford to offend even one member of our audience' (I ignore him when it pleases me).

What I'm saying is, you're the fish out of water when you get here, the guest, the newcomer. It's good social order for you to be the one who watches for social cues.
Ex: you think Americans are loud, enthusiastic and in-your-face. If an American goes out of his culture and amplifies that behavior abroad without respect to what others are doing, he is going to stand out and perhaps be perceived negatively. He thinks he's just 'being himself'.
I find it a lot more interesting to watch people and keep the 'When in Rome' adage in mind.

What went wrong in your example is, (let's pretend I was your colleague).. I don't know you have a child, I don't know that you are not a painter, even a sucky painter. I just gave you a compliment (I like your painting) and you negate my comment, my taste and my friendly overture by your 'joke'.
The appropriate reply (especially in a work situation) is to thank the person and brag up your kid.
IN MY OPINION.

I don't think it's a warped sense of humor, it's a method of making fun of the other person. But that's for the psychologists. Hopefully Leslie will be back soon to explain it better.

The colleague in question, knows very well I have a kid, she has one the same age and they have met. We talk about our kids on a daily basis, so she hadn't forgotten either.

and I can't and don't want to change. Im not hurting anyone, its just a throw away comment, being from Yorkshire and not the US, I don't brag things up, 'cos thats not the way its done, we make a joke out of things.

I would love to 'fit in' but honestly don't know what the Americans I know find funny, and aren't prepared to change to fit that hole anyway.

elfman Apr 9th 2009 9:26 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 7467478)
he's not taking the piss.

oh I think he is

exvj Apr 9th 2009 9:29 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by Bill_S (Post 7467507)
When I saw that this thread had suddenly jumped to 5 pages, I bet myself 10 bucks that exvj had turned up. I won the bet! Keep it up mate, I'll be a rich man by the end of the night!


Hold tight to the money Bill - just seen a fence section down so I had better get to Homedepot and buy some brackets or I will be deafened by the 'round the barbecue talk' from next door..

'My daughter is an alumni'

'Really, I thought that was a light bulb'

'No, she has lost ever so much weight'

etc etc

Leslie Apr 9th 2009 9:31 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 
I am not a psychologist but I play one on BE.

Leslie Apr 9th 2009 9:33 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 7467469)
Dale Carnegie said, 'We can not afford to offend even one member of our audience' (I ignore him when it pleases me).

What I'm saying is, you're the fish out of water when you get here, the guest, the newcomer. It's good social order for you to be the one who watches for social cues.
Ex: you think Americans are loud, enthusiastic and in-your-face. If an American goes out of his culture and amplifies that behavior abroad without respect to what others are doing, he is going to stand out and perhaps be perceived negatively. He thinks he's just 'being himself'.
I find it a lot more interesting to watch people and keep the 'When in Rome' adage in mind.

What went wrong in your example is, (let's pretend I was your colleague).. I don't know you have a child, I don't know that you are not a painter, even a sucky painter. I just gave you a compliment (I like your painting) and you negate my comment, my taste and my friendly overture by your 'joke'.
The appropriate reply (especially in a work situation) is to thank the person and brag up your kid.
IN MY OPINION.

I don't think it's a warped sense of humor, it's a method of making fun of the other person. But that's for the psychologists. Hopefully Leslie will be back soon to explain it better.

Don't ask me. I have no earthly idea why people get pissed off when they find out that the whole world doesn't share their exact brand of humor. :confused:

london52 Apr 9th 2009 9:35 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by Leslie66 (Post 7467555)
Don't ask me. I have no earthly idea why people get pissed off when they find out that the whole world doesn't share their exact brand of humor. :confused:

We normally don't love.

Leslie Apr 9th 2009 9:35 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by exvj (Post 7467487)
If things that you don't find funny make you laugh, we can only hope your psychologist friend (backup) turns up soon

I'm not a psychologist. Meauxna was just taking the piss.

Leslie Apr 9th 2009 9:37 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by london52 (Post 7467561)
We normally don't love.

I actually love the piss taking, love. Quite often I'm being sarcastic on here and it's a Brit that actually takes me seriously. :sneaky:

britvic Apr 9th 2009 9:38 am

Re: Are Americans really an different to us?
 

Originally Posted by yodfrodo (Post 7467404)
it sounds pretty boring if i cant take the piss outta them. ive always been attracted to people who dont take themselves seriously. i hope i don t struggle to make close friendships

Coming up 7 years over here, you'll no doubt make friends but I have to say that I gave up trying to look for or make close friendships.


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