American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Oct 7th 2006, 7:33 pm
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American Football = Rugby for pansies.
The weather turned for the worse here yesterday, and we got an amazing 1 inch of rain. So 90% of the high school American football games got called off, "because the players might get injured on the muddy ground". 
When I was a kid that was half the fun, playing football or rugby on a muddy field.
This country becomes more of a nanny nation with each passing day.
When I was a kid that was half the fun, playing football or rugby on a muddy field.
This country becomes more of a nanny nation with each passing day.
Oct 7th 2006, 8:17 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Football is not rugby with padding. The game is different and a lot of injuries occur. There were 3 fatalities last year, not to mention countless other injuries.
High School
A 16 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on September 16, 2005, while blocking on a kick-off. He received a brain injury and died on September 23, 2005. The athlete lowered his helmet into the chest of the opponent. Surgery was performed to relieve pressure on the brain and the player never recovered consciousness.
An 18 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on October 29, 2005, when he was being blocked. He received a brain injury and died on November 15, 2005. He was a linebacker and was blocked with an unsuspected blow to the head at the end of the game. He had surgery to relieve pressure on the brain.
Professional
A 26 year-old professional arena football player was injured in a game and died on April 9, 2005. He was tackling on a kick-off with his head down and the leg of the ball carrier or blocker struck him in the helmeted head. He received a fractured cervical vertebra.
How many rugby fatalities were there last year?
The game is different and a lot of injuries occur. There were 3 fatalities last year, not to mention countless other injuries.High School
A 16 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on September 16, 2005, while blocking on a kick-off. He received a brain injury and died on September 23, 2005. The athlete lowered his helmet into the chest of the opponent. Surgery was performed to relieve pressure on the brain and the player never recovered consciousness.
An 18 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on October 29, 2005, when he was being blocked. He received a brain injury and died on November 15, 2005. He was a linebacker and was blocked with an unsuspected blow to the head at the end of the game. He had surgery to relieve pressure on the brain.
Professional
A 26 year-old professional arena football player was injured in a game and died on April 9, 2005. He was tackling on a kick-off with his head down and the leg of the ball carrier or blocker struck him in the helmeted head. He received a fractured cervical vertebra.
How many rugby fatalities were there last year?
Oct 7th 2006, 9:23 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Just like boxing gloves, the pads are to protect the hitter, not the hittee. The result is that you get hit much harder in American football and get injuries that are more serious. I suspect though, that the decision is actually made to protect the pitch.
Oct 7th 2006, 9:27 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
There have been a number of occasions when I have seen the helmet used as a battering ram. Me thinks second thoughts might be applied without it.
Oct 7th 2006, 9:29 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
How many rugby fatalities were there last year?
It's interesting that if you measure sport in fatalities...golf is the most dangerous sport
Oct 7th 2006, 9:46 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Put a crash helmet on an idiot he'll think himself invincible. A lot is technique poor coaching can kill I was once told to keep my head up in a tackle I told the teacher to get knotted I liked walking.
Oct 7th 2006, 10:03 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Football is not rugby with padding. The game is different and a lot of injuries occur. There were 3 fatalities last year, not to mention countless other injuries.
High School
A 16 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on September 16, 2005, while blocking on a kick-off. He received a brain injury and died on September 23, 2005. The athlete lowered his helmet into the chest of the opponent. Surgery was performed to relieve pressure on the brain and the player never recovered consciousness.
An 18 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on October 29, 2005, when he was being blocked. He received a brain injury and died on November 15, 2005. He was a linebacker and was blocked with an unsuspected blow to the head at the end of the game. He had surgery to relieve pressure on the brain.
Professional
A 26 year-old professional arena football player was injured in a game and died on April 9, 2005. He was tackling on a kick-off with his head down and the leg of the ball carrier or blocker struck him in the helmeted head. He received a fractured cervical vertebra.
How many rugby fatalities were there last year?
The game is different and a lot of injuries occur. There were 3 fatalities last year, not to mention countless other injuries.High School
A 16 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on September 16, 2005, while blocking on a kick-off. He received a brain injury and died on September 23, 2005. The athlete lowered his helmet into the chest of the opponent. Surgery was performed to relieve pressure on the brain and the player never recovered consciousness.
An 18 year-old high school football player was injured in a game on October 29, 2005, when he was being blocked. He received a brain injury and died on November 15, 2005. He was a linebacker and was blocked with an unsuspected blow to the head at the end of the game. He had surgery to relieve pressure on the brain.
Professional
A 26 year-old professional arena football player was injured in a game and died on April 9, 2005. He was tackling on a kick-off with his head down and the leg of the ball carrier or blocker struck him in the helmeted head. He received a fractured cervical vertebra.
How many rugby fatalities were there last year?
Oct 7th 2006, 10:21 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by Thydney
Put a crash helmet on an idiot he'll think himself invincible. A lot is technique poor coaching can kill I was once told to keep my head up in a tackle I told the teacher to get knotted I liked walking.
That was fun - US football tactics with Rugby rules (or lack of).
Oct 7th 2006, 10:59 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by Owdhamer
The weather turned for the worse here yesterday, and we got an amazing 1 inch of rain. So 90% of the high school American football games got called off, "because the players might get injured on the muddy ground".
When I was a kid that was half the fun, playing football or rugby on a muddy field.
This country becomes more of a nanny nation with each passing day.
When I was a kid that was half the fun, playing football or rugby on a muddy field.
This country becomes more of a nanny nation with each passing day.
Games, whether it be football, baseball or soccer, don't get cancelled unless there is thunder and lightening, or there has been so much rain after a very dry spell and the pitch becomes waterlogged. this happened this year where we had 3 days of solid rain after a very dry summer. Our back garden was a swimming pool and the football game was not cancelled until the very last minute that it could be.
The kids here generally play come rain, sleet or snow but games have to be cancelled if there is any hint of thunder and lightening.
Oct 7th 2006, 11:43 pm
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by Ben
Don't lump everyone together and don't forget the likelihood of lawsuits.
Games, whether it be football, baseball or soccer, don't get cancelled unless there is thunder and lightening, or there has been so much rain after a very dry spell and the pitch becomes waterlogged. this happened this year where we had 3 days of solid rain after a very dry summer. Our back garden was a swimming pool and the football game was not cancelled until the very last minute that it could be.
The kids here generally play come rain, sleet or snow but games have to be cancelled if there is any hint of thunder and lightening.
Games, whether it be football, baseball or soccer, don't get cancelled unless there is thunder and lightening, or there has been so much rain after a very dry spell and the pitch becomes waterlogged. this happened this year where we had 3 days of solid rain after a very dry summer. Our back garden was a swimming pool and the football game was not cancelled until the very last minute that it could be.
The kids here generally play come rain, sleet or snow but games have to be cancelled if there is any hint of thunder and lightening.
Ben, I get the point re lawsuits. I'm sure all those games called off last night were precisley because of the schools being shit-scared of being sued for any injuries. Which is pathetic. Hence my assertion of this country becoming more and more a 'nanny nation'.
And ladyofthelake,
I do not know the figures for rugby fatalities, although I do know that they occur/have occured. I'm way to busy with life on a Saturday to spend all afternoon googling info on sports injuries/fatalities, like you clearly did with your anecdotes in your above post. As you clearly have so much spare time on your hands, why don't you do the same for rugby - it would save me a job, and would fill up some of your (clear) abundance of spare time this Saturday.
Problem is, the results would weaken your pro American Football argument, wouldn't they?
Oct 8th 2006, 12:55 am
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by Owdhamer
Ben, I get the point re lawsuits. I'm sure all those games called off last night were precisley because of the schools being shit-scared of being sued for any injuries. Which is pathetic. Hence my assertion of this country becoming more and more a 'nanny nation'.
And ladyofthelake,
I do not know the figures for rugby fatalities, although I do know that they occur/have occured. I'm way to busy with life on a Saturday to spend all afternoon googling info on sports injuries/fatalities, like you clearly did with your anecdotes in your above post. As you clearly have so much spare time on your hands, why don't you do the same for rugby - it would save me a job, and would fill up some of your (clear) abundance of spare time this Saturday.
Problem is, the results would weaken your pro American Football argument, wouldn't they?
And ladyofthelake,
I do not know the figures for rugby fatalities, although I do know that they occur/have occured. I'm way to busy with life on a Saturday to spend all afternoon googling info on sports injuries/fatalities, like you clearly did with your anecdotes in your above post. As you clearly have so much spare time on your hands, why don't you do the same for rugby - it would save me a job, and would fill up some of your (clear) abundance of spare time this Saturday.
Problem is, the results would weaken your pro American Football argument, wouldn't they?
...so why be such a wanker when someone disagrees with you?
Ladyofthelake did nothing to diserve your obnoxious response, other than post some information that you don't like. Lashing out at her like that is pathetic.
In fact, why start a thread at all, if all you want to hear is your own viewpoint.
Last edited by dbj1000; Oct 8th 2006 at 12:58 am.
Oct 8th 2006, 1:15 am
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by paddingtongreen
Just like boxing gloves, the pads are to protect the hitter, not the hittee. The result is that you get hit much harder in American football and get injuries that are more serious. I suspect though, that the decision is actually made to protect the pitch.
The brain sits in a sack of fluid, and in boxing, the boxing gloves take the sting out of the punch but the brain still gets rattled around inside the sack of fluid, that's why after 20 years of boxing people can appear to be punch drunk, (have you heard Nigel Benn talking lately) in bare knuckle fighting, the fight is stopped much sooner due to KO's, broken hands etc.
Oct 8th 2006, 1:18 am
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by >Trigger<
It's interesting that if you measure sport in fatalities...golf is the most dangerous sport
Oct 8th 2006, 1:23 am
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by Rodney you plonker
WTF......... Is that true?????
Hitting a birdie doubles the risk of heart attack or stroke.
Hole-in-one is a guaranteed coronary!
Oct 8th 2006, 1:50 am
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Re: American Football = Rugby for pansies.
Originally Posted by >Trigger<
It's interesting that if you measure sport in fatalities...golf is the most dangerous sport