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Old Mar 14th 2014, 8:16 pm
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I am wanting to move to the states, but everywhere I read it says there's little chance and I'm delusional.

I have a 4 year bachelor of science degree, with honours, in optometry and work as an Optometrist in Scotland and have done for the last 7 years. I am looking into becoming qualified in America and I have been given sponsorship to sit the exams. This is going to cost a fair amount and I am wondering even with the US qualification will I be able to find a job? I have read that US employers are unwilling to go to the trouble and expense for a foreign employee, it's rather disheartening. How did you guys do it? Any help/info is much appreciated.
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Getting a visa is the biggest challenge, and where your plan will probably fail. I am not sure if your profession is covered by the visa class that allows foreign doctors to get visas, hopefully someone will be along shortly to comment, or you can research it.

Most of us here either were transferred by our employer, or are married to a US citizen. A few obtained an H1-A visa. .... If you are single and determined to immigrate to the US, internet dating is a good option. No, I am not joking, because it explains how a fair number of us came to be here.

More complete and structured advice on US visas can be found in the two Pulaski documents in the USA section if the Wikis tab above.

PS. One of our regulars will no doubt be along soon to tell you that, yes, you are delusional for even wanting to live in the US.

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My guess is there is enough optometrists coming out of the medical schools, or already in practice in the US to meet demand. Therefore I don't see why a company would want to pay the cost of getting a visa for an overseas applicant.
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My guess is there is enough optometrists coming out of the medical schools, or already in practice in the US to meet demand. Therefore I don't see why a company would want to pay the cost of getting a visa for an overseas applicant.
Agreed, and it is not legal for the applicant to pay the cost either.
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My guess is there is enough optometrists coming out of the medical schools, or already in practice in the US to meet demand. Therefore I don't see why a company would want to pay the cost of getting a visa for an overseas applicant.
It seems unlikely for an eye doctor (the US technical term).
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It seems unlikely for an eye doctor (the US technical term).
Hi Sally!

You're very restrained today.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
PS. One of our regulars will no doubt be along soon to tell you that, yes, you are delusional for even wanting to live in the US.
. Any minute.......
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Can I say it? Can I say it?

Why on earth do you want to move to the States?
Do you think the grass is greener here somehow? It's really just a different shade.


(I know, it's alright me saying that, I'm already here but it's a been there, done it, tired of it, can't wait to get back home kinda thing, even though I do have the successful California coastal lifestyle. I'd rather be on a sodden hike in the Trossachs, stopping at a cosy pub afterwards.)

Anyway, find a USC girlfriend and get married. One of the easiest routes.
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this Yank thought that the term for an "eye doctor" was ophthalmologist. I go to an optometrist when I want glasses.
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Originally Posted by hotscot View Post

Anyway, find a USC girlfriend and get married. One of the easiest routes.
Do you think a guy would call himself StrawberryFields? Just wondering . .
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You have a point...but I do live in California.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
Hi Sally! You're very restrained today.
Originally Posted by markonline1 View Post
. Any minute.......
Originally Posted by hotscot View Post
Can I say it? Can I say it?
Why on earth do you want to move to the States?
Do you think the grass is greener here somehow? It's really just a different shade.
Guys: The only things truly predictable are death, taxes and the fact that a smart woman will ignore your bait. And so she has!

Originally Posted by Nutmegger View Post
Do you think a guy would call himself StrawberryFields? Just wondering . .
OTOH : you never know

Sorry for diversion StrawberryFields....just to clarify use of term "eye doctor" in the States....it seems to be used when referring to both ophthalmologists and optometrists - tho, as you know, only the former is an MD
http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/eye-...hthalmologists

Originally Posted by Speedwell View Post
this Yank thought that the term for an "eye doctor" was ophthalmologist. I go to an optometrist when I want glasses.
My optometrist's staff always refer to him as "Dr." ....and technicallly he is because:
.....see definitions in above link.

In any case....good luck in your quest SF
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Originally Posted by StrawberryFields View Post
I am wanting to move to the states, but everywhere I read it says there's little chance and I'm delusional.

I have a 4 year bachelor of science degree, with honours, in optometry and work as an Optometrist in Scotland and have done for the last 7 years. I am looking into becoming qualified in America and I have been given sponsorship to sit the exams. This is going to cost a fair amount and I am wondering even with the US qualification will I be able to find a job? I have read that US employers are unwilling to go to the trouble and expense for a foreign employee, it's rather disheartening. How did you guys do it? Any help/info is much appreciated.
I go to an "eye doctor", he's an "optometrist", and I've been going to him for about 25 years now. His office is so small that I can't imagine him hiring anyone and sponsoring them for a work visa. From what I can tell, all these kinds of optometry offices are very small and independently owned, so are not likely to sponsor a work visa.

Not sure if you can get a J-1 type of visa to work in a medical facility as an optometrist, but I guess that's where I'd start looking.

Here's my optometrist's website, just for fun: http://www.paulwagnerod.com/ourpractice.html

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According to Wikipedia (my underlining):

Optometry is a healthcare profession concerned with the health of the eyes and related structures, as well as vision, visual systems, and vision information processing in humans. In the United States, Canada . . . optometrists are doctors of optometry and are held to the same legal standards as any physician. Optometrists (also known as ophthalmic opticians outside the United States and Canada) are trained to prescribe and fit lenses to improve vision, and to diagnose and treat various eye diseases. In all U.S. states optometrists are licensed to diagnose and treat diseases of the eye through topical diagnostic and therapeutic drugs, and oral drugs in 48 of the 50 states. This is not the case, however, in the United Kingdom and other countries, where optometrists do not undertake medical training equivalent to that of physicians and are therefore not considered so.
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You are not delusional. You are just not seeing clearly
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