Originally Posted by chartreuse

Fixed it for ya!

Originally Posted by meauxna

Don't make me get all mod on ya, kitten. You're not s'posed to do that anymore, even when it's funny/true/makes your point.

fanks

Originally Posted by Kaffy Mintcake

She didn't say the patient didn't recognize how reformed healthcare could benefit her, she said she believed physicals for senior citizens were in order to determine who should be euthanized.

Originally Posted by AmerLisa

Yes, but she doesn't understand, or she wouldn't think that, right?

Originally Posted by Giantaxe

A lot of people are easily scared and vulnerable to misinformation.

I had a well-educated teacher insist to me last week that the entire cost of employer-provided health insurance is going to be taxed as income from this year on. This kind of mis-information will continue to get floated by those who want to repeal health care reform, just as they attempted the "death panel" nonsense before passage.

Originally Posted by Hellopaul

Throw away your TV. I do not have one (did not have one back in England either) and you're far better off not knowing (or caring) what's going on politically. After all, nothing will change...you will go to work, pay tax, then die. Presidents will sent people to their deaths because it's profitable to do so. The US economy will continue to spiral downwards, but it doesn't matter because the world loves the dollar.

I think I'm better off not being reminded of this every day. Ignorance is bliss, when it comes to something you cannot change (I'm not a US citizen, so am not eligible to waste an afternoon queing up to "vote" in the misguided belief that there is some form of democracy in any country any longer). But even if I could vote, I could maybe help oust the figurehead, but I can't vote to remove Halliburton, Israel, Monsanto, GM, Fox News and all the other organisations who tell the president how high to jump. And before someone tells me "if I don't like it, go back to England" - it's the same story there, and I did not come here to escape dodgy politics; I was fully aware of the dire situation both here and in the UK.

...why do I have a strangely familiar feeling that I might be stirring up a bit of a hornet's nest here?http://www.the370z.com/images/smilies/th_stirthepot.gif

Originally Posted by coastieexpat

Same here , I got rid of the TV 18 years ago and I don't miss mainstream TV in the slightest, I do get Netflix though.

My daughter asked me after the oil spill if I thought everything was going to s##t,. I explained that this hype as been going on for eon's and next week it will be something else and so 'ad infinitum'.

Fortunately, I have found my own Shangri La here, and I am, for the most part surrounded by like minded people.

I go back to Manchester a few times a year and I do fantasize about living there again, politically though I am not sure it's much different, although socially I think it may be better.

So for now , home is where the van is .......

Sell your TV, I would rather be ignorant than misinformed. And with your new found time, go out and get involved with your community, you can create change far more locally, than using the ballot box.

Just my opinion of course.

Originally Posted by E3only

Ridiculous comments - so far as it relates to "nothing will change" bit...

Originally Posted by HarryTheSpider

We're still in the UK, coming to AZ on an L1A in a few months.

I can (un)happily tell you we have plenty of uninformed people here in the UK. I don't think you can blame these individuals so much as the newspapers they read, and the TV they watch.

Originally Posted by Giantaxe

Especially when you couple it with the fact that 27% think he was "definitely or probably born outside the US".

I used to laugh at this stuff, but there really does seem to be a scary side to it in that a significant minority of the population doesn't see him as a "legitimate" President.

Originally Posted by sunflwrgrl13

I don't know..wouldn't you say there is some truth to the ol' adage "the more things change, the more they stay the same"?

Those with money, either individuals or corporations, will always advocate to their best interests and to hell with anyone else. Only way around it is to take away their power, and that isn't in politicians best interests is it? Unless we can all somehow move on to a Utopian society where money doesn't mean anything, people will always walk over other people they deem less worthy....but I digress..

Originally Posted by nun

I don't know if I can live here anymore, it's just getting too surreal and scary.

Originally Posted by Giantaxe

Especially when you couple it with the fact that 27% think he was "definitely or probably born outside the US".

I used to laugh at this stuff, but there really does seem to be a scary side to it in that a significant minority of the population doesn't see him as a "legitimate" President.

Originally Posted by hobbes79

Originally Posted by AmerLisa

I think there are a fairly large amount of people who still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy......I don't think I'd run through the streets saying the sky is falling.

I would hope that the OP would find the people that don't believe in that, there must be a few in this big country.

Originally Posted by hobbes79

Funny, cos even if that was true, it doesn't make him inelgible anyway.

You just have to be born an American.

So my son was born in Frimley in Surrey, but wife's American, so he was born an American. Makes him entirely eligible to become President... no pressure

If you look up where John McCain was born, that's kind of interesting...