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Old Aug 4th 2018, 4:52 pm
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Default Ah, Brexit.

Starting to research (I could be a bit late to the game!) impact of Brexit. Searched the forum but couldn't find anything directly related.

Im a U.K. Expat LPR in the US. I have £ cash funds in a current account in the U.K.

Tons and tonnes of info re the impact on various different trade sectors from agri, chemicals, engineering, financial plus impact on jobs in both U.K. and EU countries. But I haven't found much theorising or related deductions on the impacts on exchange rates.

Does anyone have have any insights or thoughts here?

I could transfer my funds (as I have in the past) to the US easily of course.

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Old Aug 4th 2018, 8:51 pm
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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

We're looking at buying remote land in Scotland when Brexit crashes the economy - Not for personal gain, we simply want to own a piece of home for sh*ts and giggles. Other than that I wish there was a way to get my family over here so they can abandon the sinking ship. I truly wish Scotland would just gain its independence and cut ties with this Brexit nonsense and return some stability (To Scotland at least).

FYI I had originally wanted to vote 'leave' but was out of the country at voting so didn't get the chance - I truly wish I'd voted to stay.

As far as financially, I don't think anyone is questioning that the pound will fall through the floor for several months at the very least when it happens before climbing - How well it recovers is the real question.

My 'common sense' logic would be abandon ship and take the booty with ye afore she sinks.
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Old Aug 4th 2018, 10:02 pm
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Thanks notaclue - pretty much what I thought as I was writing the post really. The pound will get clobbered probably, the Euro may take a hit too....And, as you say how strong/long the recovery would be is anyone's guess.

Total agreement with the Scotland thing although the social finances, healthcare systems, taxation and how Scotland could go it alone are interesting. That said if I were to go back it would probably be to Scotland anyway. I'll be refreshing my XE account shortly.
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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

Trying to predict long-term currency movements or economic events is a fools game.

Invest your money in a good fund like Terry Smiths Fundsmith fund. Quality stocks are the place to be.
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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

You will find many threads on here discussing exchange rates and movements, agree anybody who got it right was more by luck.
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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

Unfortunately no one can predict the outcome of Brexit; Mrs May has quite brilliantly managed to alienate both sides of the argument with her total disregard for any other opinion but hers, a skill she acquired in the Home Office! I too voted leave, but with the current shambolic political situation in the UK I think I would prefer to stay now.

Oh well, at least I'm moving to a stable political environment in the US!
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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

Originally Posted by cranston
Trying to predict long-term currency movements or economic events is a fools game.

Invest your money in a good fund like Terry Smiths Fundsmith fund. Quality stocks are the place to be.
Yeah, I saw that guys success etc. But is it just - and his success - UK based?
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Nice x 2. Brexit is freaky but I live here now. Tough choice if such a thing exists.
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Originally Posted by freerskier
Yeah, I saw that guys success etc. But is it just - and his success - UK based?
The fund is UK based in GBP and I am not sure what countries they accept investors from.

His success is based on global investing. Their youtube page explains their investing process and there is lots on the web about them.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Fundsmith
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Yeah - looked into it. U.K. Residents only. There's a Delaware arm of the company but it's only for super high net worth/institutional investors.
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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

Freerskier did you end up jumping ship? I’m currently in the same predicament. Debating do I move the funds now or play the waiting game. I have read and seen the rates can fall as low as 1.20 for the GBP to USD but also saw it could go up 10% to as high as 1.39 GBP to USD.

Its a a little scary watching the rates drop so much over the past 2weeks.

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Old Aug 8th 2018, 8:16 pm
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Yeah.

Ive taken the plunge on the basis that I'll have a ground zero in the USA for my funds.

Ill look at tracker funds and some others, probably through vanguard, Merrill edge something like that - keep an eye on the midterms here and Brexit.

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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

Fortunately, and largely by happy accident, I moved a load of GBP out to USD at $1.41 over several transactions. So I managed to ride the peak.

However, I think <$1.30 is undervaluing GBP. I am no expert, but I do follow GBP-USD closely as I run an export business, and I think that $1.35-1.40 is probably a natural value right now based on the fundamentals of the economy. Anything else is just 'political weather' blowing the rate around.

I also think that the current hammering is due to latest political posturing ahead of the next round of negotiations and that at the end of the negotiations are more reasonable outcome will have been achieved and GBP will recover a little. (There are always hard line public statements in advance, and a more emollient tone afterwards once progress is 'hailed').

Certainly don't take my advice as gospel, but I still have a load of GBP in the UK and if I were in your position I would say if you are able to leave it I would sit tight and wait for GBP to come back to the $1.35 range and then bring across.
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Old Aug 9th 2018, 10:43 pm
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Just adding my tuppenceworth here , pun intended. For various reasons my immigration journey has taken almost 2 1/2 years and have watched the value of my cash I will be taking over to the states loose big style-and made me weep! I have kept in touch with a broker that I'm using to transfer my cash over in a few months when I've settled my affairs in Scotland. His advice last week is still to hold on until I absolutely need to transfer money and only as much as I need interim if needed for a house before the end of the year. All the 'experts' have said the dollar pound rate is fully expected to be back at $1.40 to $1.45 by November/december. Only time will be the correct prediction I think. Brexit has been a twat!

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Default Re: Ah, Brexit.

Originally Posted by isi16
All the 'experts' have said the dollar pound rate is fully expected to be back
There are no experts when it comes to currency movements. There are only people who don't know and people who don't know they don't know.

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