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Old May 15th 2004, 5:42 am
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Originally posted by Pulaski
Yes, but in depth studies of history rarely cover more than a few of the numerous epochs of British history - at high school I studied the Roman occupation, and tribal history that ran up to it, the dark ages, and the Norman conquest.

Though I had the greatest respect for my history teacher, his teaching style was dull as ditch water and I refused to take history at O' level - and in any case the selected epoch for O' level at my school was the Napoleonic wars to WWII, which didn't interest me either. Since I left school I have become much more interested in history.
I guess it varies from school to school. We covered a considerable amount of history, with a reasonable amount of detail. Much of which was probably extracurricular I realize in retrospect. Our teachers tried to actually inspire us to learn, rather than just to pass exams.

I just disliked all the memorization for WWII intensely, turned me right off, and in the "toss up" between geography and history when choosing my options, geography won hands down as a result.
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In that case, I dunno. I'm inclined to instinctively recoil from the idea of foetuses being harvested for vivisection purposes, but I may feel differently if I had a relative dying of some disease that could possibly be cured through stem cell research.
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In that case, I dunno. I'm inclined to instinctively recoil from the idea of foetuses being harvested for vivisection purposes, but I may feel differently if I had a relative dying of some disease that could possibly be cured through stem cell research.
Typical, speaking out of two sides of your mouth.
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Old May 15th 2004, 7:32 pm
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I guess it varies from school to school. We covered a considerable amount of history, with a reasonable amount of detail. Much of which was probably extracurricular I realize in retrospect. Our teachers tried to actually inspire us to learn, rather than just to pass exams.

I just disliked all the memorization for WWII intensely, turned me right off, and in the "toss up" between geography and history when choosing my options, geography won hands down as a result.
I loved History at school and took it right up to A level. Probably should have stuck with it a Uni instead of law. Mind you i arsed up my A level by spending to long on the question on the Irish Home Rule Crisis of the late 19th Century. After writing about 9 pages in the exam i realised i had around 40 mins left for 2 more questions oops! but i was so engrossed in my explanation i just didnt see the clock. Classic exam failure. Ended up with a B instead of my predicted 'A', a great disapointment to my teacher(back when A's were hard to get not like today).

There lots of US History to read and that doesnt include the pre colonisation history of Britain and Ireland. Currently i am reading Niall Fergusons new book 'Colussus' which is a history of American Empire. Its very interesting so far. If you want a good overview of US History try Hugh Brogans 'Penguin History of the United States of America' (he is a lecturer at my old University Essex).
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I loved History at school and took it right up to A level. Probably should have stuck with it a Uni instead of law. Mind you i arsed up my A level by spending to long on the question on the Irish Home Rule Crisis of the late 19th Century. After writing about 9 pages in the exam i realised i had around 40 mins left for 2 more questions oops! but i was so engrossed in my explanation i just didnt see the clock. Classic exam failure. Ended up with a B instead of my predicted 'A', a great disapointment to my teacher(back when A's were hard to get not like today).

There lots of US History to read and that doesnt include the pre colonisation history of Britain and Ireland. Currently i am reading Niall Fergusons new book 'Colussus' which is a history of American Empire. Its very interesting so far. If you want a good overview of US History try Hugh Brogans 'Penguin History of the United States of America' (he is a lecturer at my old University Essex).
With a background in history and law have you ever considered becoming a law librarian? One of my nieces-in-law did the qualification after graduating from law school (I think it was some kind of masters) and loves it
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Here's a link about it:

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Originally posted by veryfunny
Quote 1) "I personally, look at both sides of the argument and not just jump at everything some else believes in."

Quote 2) "Typical, speaking out of two sides of your mouth."
Oh, so obviously it's different when you do it.
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Originally posted by nxylas
Oh, so obviously it's different when you do it.
Ask me a question and I will give you a straight answer. Where do I stand on cell stem research? I am for it.
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Originally posted by veryfunny
Ask me a question and I will give you a straight answer. Where do I stand on cell stem research? I am for it.
But presumably you reached that conclusion after weighing up both sides of the argument. I think my answer was pretty straight: against, but acknowledging the complexity of the issue.
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Originally posted by nxylas
But presumably you reached that conclusion after weighing up both sides of the argument. I think my answer was pretty straight: against, but acknowledging the complexity of the issue.
Lets just agree to disagree, no harm no foul.
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Originally posted by veryfunny
Lets just agree to disagree, no harm no foul.
I get the impression that you thought that quote from Kurt Vonnegut represented my views, whereas they don't even represent Vonnegut's (he's far too intelligent to fall into such an asinine way of thinking). If you read it carefully, you will see that he is satirising the idiotic level of what passes for political debate in Bush's deeply divided America. You can read the article it was taken from at:

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0512-13.htm

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Originally posted by nxylas
I get the impression that you thought that quote from Kurt Vonnegut represented my views, whereas they don't even represent Vonnegut's (he's far too intelligent to fall into such an asinine way of thinking). If you read it carefully, you will see that he is satirising the idiotic level of what passes for political debate in Bush's deeply divided America. You can read the article it was taken from at:

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You are taking this far too serious, I just wanted your opinion on what a conservative was and stem cell research.
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You are taking this far too serious, I just wanted your opinion on what a conservative was and stem cell research.
Well I have given the latter, but what is a Conservative? In America it seems to be someone who is really, really angry about the fact that there are people who are not exactly like them in every respect.
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Originally posted by nxylas
Well I have given the latter, but what is a Conservative? In America it seems to be someone who is really, really angry about the fact that there are people who are not exactly like them in every respect.
lol lol lol that was a funny one. I think both sides need a chill pill.

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Originally posted by veryfunny
lol lol lol that was a funny one. I think both sides need a chill pill.

Jesse Ventura for President!!!!
Did you see tonight's Simpsons ? A hugely outspoken attack on the wave of phoney patriotism currently engulfing America. I loved it, but it was enough to make Rush Limbaugh break out in anal cysts.
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