To Zic concerning J1 Visa Waiver
Dec 4th 2002, 3:20 pm
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To Zic concerning J1 Visa Waiver
Hi Zic,
I have a question concerning the waiver and I read in another thread, that you have some information. How can I contact you, since I didn't get any answers in this newsgroup, when I posted my questions.
Thanks,
Ivonne
This is the situation (Maybe someone knows):
I got my first IAP stating not subject to HRR. The consulate also wrote that on my first visa. Then I extended my internship and on my knew IAP it doesn't state anything in this concern (not I am subject nor I am not subject, just nocthing). Also my new visa dosn't say subject or not.
From the facts, I am still not subject (no funds, not on visitor skill list, no medical training programm). Would that be a problem when changing my status. I have to submit copy of IAP, should I submit the first one either, to show, that i wasn't subject in the first place? Do I need a waiver, if they assume from my second IAP, that I am subject (also, if I am not, concerning the given facts?). I don't want to deal with this time costing waiver thing, since i wasn't subject in the first place and still fulfill all requirements to not become subject.
any help would be appreciated!!!
Thanks, Ivonne
I have a question concerning the waiver and I read in another thread, that you have some information. How can I contact you, since I didn't get any answers in this newsgroup, when I posted my questions.
Thanks,
Ivonne
This is the situation (Maybe someone knows):
I got my first IAP stating not subject to HRR. The consulate also wrote that on my first visa. Then I extended my internship and on my knew IAP it doesn't state anything in this concern (not I am subject nor I am not subject, just nocthing). Also my new visa dosn't say subject or not.
From the facts, I am still not subject (no funds, not on visitor skill list, no medical training programm). Would that be a problem when changing my status. I have to submit copy of IAP, should I submit the first one either, to show, that i wasn't subject in the first place? Do I need a waiver, if they assume from my second IAP, that I am subject (also, if I am not, concerning the given facts?). I don't want to deal with this time costing waiver thing, since i wasn't subject in the first place and still fulfill all requirements to not become subject.
any help would be appreciated!!!
Thanks, Ivonne
Dec 6th 2002, 4:08 pm
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Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> Hi Zic,
>
> I have a question concerning the waiver and I read in another thread,
> that you have some information. How can I contact you, since I didn't
> get any answers in this newsgroup, when I posted my questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ivonne
>
> This is the situation (Maybe someone knows):
>
> I got my first IAP stating not subject to HRR. The consulate also wrote
> that on my first visa. Then I extended my internship and on my knew IAP
> it doesn't state anything in this concern (not I am subject nor I am not
> subject, just nocthing). Also my new visa dosn't say subject or not.
> From the facts, I am still not subject (no funds, not on visitor skill
> list, no medical training programm). Would that be a problem when
> changing my status. I have to submit copy of IAP, should I submit the
> first one either, to show, that i wasn't subject in the first place? Do
> I need a waiver, if they assume from my second IAP, that I am subject
> (also, if I am not, concerning the given facts?). I don't want to deal
> with this time costing waiver thing, since i wasn't subject in the first
> place and still fulfill all requirements to not become subject.
>
> any help would be appreciated!!!
>
> Thanks, Ivonne
HI Ivonne.You did not mention what is your nationality. One thing It's
a VERY GOOD THING that you keep the pink copies of your IAP-66.Are you
sure you are not subject to the 2 year HRR? Sometimes they don't write
anything in your J- 1 visa stapm and YOU ARE SUBJECT to it. Everything
depends on your field and country!!!Be careful. And to what do you
want to change your status in the USA? Inmigrant? H's , L's visas.
This is not legal advise.
ISABEL
> Hi Zic,
>
> I have a question concerning the waiver and I read in another thread,
> that you have some information. How can I contact you, since I didn't
> get any answers in this newsgroup, when I posted my questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ivonne
>
> This is the situation (Maybe someone knows):
>
> I got my first IAP stating not subject to HRR. The consulate also wrote
> that on my first visa. Then I extended my internship and on my knew IAP
> it doesn't state anything in this concern (not I am subject nor I am not
> subject, just nocthing). Also my new visa dosn't say subject or not.
> From the facts, I am still not subject (no funds, not on visitor skill
> list, no medical training programm). Would that be a problem when
> changing my status. I have to submit copy of IAP, should I submit the
> first one either, to show, that i wasn't subject in the first place? Do
> I need a waiver, if they assume from my second IAP, that I am subject
> (also, if I am not, concerning the given facts?). I don't want to deal
> with this time costing waiver thing, since i wasn't subject in the first
> place and still fulfill all requirements to not become subject.
>
> any help would be appreciated!!!
>
> Thanks, Ivonne
HI Ivonne.You did not mention what is your nationality. One thing It's
a VERY GOOD THING that you keep the pink copies of your IAP-66.Are you
sure you are not subject to the 2 year HRR? Sometimes they don't write
anything in your J- 1 visa stapm and YOU ARE SUBJECT to it. Everything
depends on your field and country!!!Be careful. And to what do you
want to change your status in the USA? Inmigrant? H's , L's visas.
This is not legal advise.
ISABEL
Dec 6th 2002, 6:00 pm
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thanks for your reply. I'm from Germany and I'm doing an internship in my field of study (business). No shortage in Germany :-).
I am definitly not subject, given the facts, I know yhat. But it doesn't matter, because what the IAP 66 sais, counts. Also, if they made a mistake, then I'd have to aplly for getting the mistake removed. But what worries me, is, that on my IAP it sais nothing. there are boxes, that have to be marked, saying: Yes, subject or No, not subject.
Neither box is checked.
I want to change to L2 (marrying L1A Holder in January) and apply for work authorization!
I am definitly not subject, given the facts, I know yhat. But it doesn't matter, because what the IAP 66 sais, counts. Also, if they made a mistake, then I'd have to aplly for getting the mistake removed. But what worries me, is, that on my IAP it sais nothing. there are boxes, that have to be marked, saying: Yes, subject or No, not subject.
Neither box is checked.
I want to change to L2 (marrying L1A Holder in January) and apply for work authorization!
Dec 7th 2002, 4:57 pm
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Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> thanks for your reply. I'm from Germany and I'm doing an internship in
> my field of study (business). No shortage in Germany :-).
>
> I am definitly not subject, given the facts, I know yhat. But it doesn't
> matter, because what the IAP 66 sais, counts. Also, if they made a
> mistake, then I'd have to aplly for getting the mistake removed. But
> what worries me, is, that on my IAP it sais nothing. there are boxes,
> that have to be marked, saying: Yes, subject or No, not subject.
> Neither box is checked.
>
> I want to change to L2 (marrying L1A Holder in January) and apply for
> work authorization!
Have you checked the skill list? but if you are not subject for sure
It's good. However I would get a really good attorney(lawyer).If you
are not subject to the 2 Year HRR you can get married and change to
the L-2. When you apply for a J-1 visa waiver the INS or USIA consider
you as a potential inmigrant as I have read. So, get some good advise
and make sure you are making good choices. A waiver as I said says
that you have intentions of inmigrate you could have troubles then
with your L-2. I hope someone else answers to you.
This is not a legal advise.
Good luck,
ISA
> thanks for your reply. I'm from Germany and I'm doing an internship in
> my field of study (business). No shortage in Germany :-).
>
> I am definitly not subject, given the facts, I know yhat. But it doesn't
> matter, because what the IAP 66 sais, counts. Also, if they made a
> mistake, then I'd have to aplly for getting the mistake removed. But
> what worries me, is, that on my IAP it sais nothing. there are boxes,
> that have to be marked, saying: Yes, subject or No, not subject.
> Neither box is checked.
>
> I want to change to L2 (marrying L1A Holder in January) and apply for
> work authorization!
Have you checked the skill list? but if you are not subject for sure
It's good. However I would get a really good attorney(lawyer).If you
are not subject to the 2 Year HRR you can get married and change to
the L-2. When you apply for a J-1 visa waiver the INS or USIA consider
you as a potential inmigrant as I have read. So, get some good advise
and make sure you are making good choices. A waiver as I said says
that you have intentions of inmigrate you could have troubles then
with your L-2. I hope someone else answers to you.
This is not a legal advise.
Good luck,
ISA
Dec 8th 2002, 1:34 pm
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[email protected] (Izabel Zandarin) wrote in message news:...
> Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> > thanks for your reply. I'm from Germany and I'm doing an internship in
> > my field of study (business). No shortage in Germany :-).
> >
> > I am definitly not subject, given the facts, I know yhat. But it doesn't
> > matter, because what the IAP 66 sais, counts. Also, if they made a
> > mistake, then I'd have to aplly for getting the mistake removed. But
> > what worries me, is, that on my IAP it sais nothing. there are boxes,
> > that have to be marked, saying: Yes, subject or No, not subject.
> > Neither box is checked.
> >
> > I want to change to L2 (marrying L1A Holder in January) and apply for
> > work authorization!
>
> Have you checked the skill list? but if you are not subject for sure
> It's good. However I would get a really good attorney(lawyer).If you
> are not subject to the 2 Year HRR you can get married and change to
> the L-2. When you apply for a J-1 visa waiver the INS or USIA consider
> you as a potential inmigrant as I have read. So, get some good advise
> and make sure you are making good choices. A waiver as I said says
> that you have intentions of inmigrate you could have troubles then
> with your L-2. I hope someone else answers to you.
> This is not a legal advise.
> Good luck,
> ISA
Ivonne,
one way to confirm if you are subject or not, because as Isabelle
mentioned sometimes even if they don't say you are not subject,
somehow you find yourself subject to the 2 years.
So to confirm if you're not, file an Advisory Opinion which takes
about one month processing, that might bring you the peace of mind.
and Yes if you are not subject to the 2 years you won't need a Waiver
and you can apply L2, also with INS submit everything you can when you
want to prove sthg, so yes submit your first IAP.
just a side note,when i applied for Advisory Opinion, my skill was
Energy engineering which was in the skills list of my country they
replied saying according to my skills list i am subject to the 2 years
and the funny thing, the skill they mentioned was in Finance (don't
know where they got that from) and that skill, finance, does not exist
in the skills list of my country... weird ha??
anyway here's the link that can help you find the information you need
for Advisory opinion, it's a simple process:
http://travel.state.gov/j_faq.html#opinions
I hope this information helps, i am currently on a job overseas and
won't be able to respond much.
good luck,
Zik
> Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> > thanks for your reply. I'm from Germany and I'm doing an internship in
> > my field of study (business). No shortage in Germany :-).
> >
> > I am definitly not subject, given the facts, I know yhat. But it doesn't
> > matter, because what the IAP 66 sais, counts. Also, if they made a
> > mistake, then I'd have to aplly for getting the mistake removed. But
> > what worries me, is, that on my IAP it sais nothing. there are boxes,
> > that have to be marked, saying: Yes, subject or No, not subject.
> > Neither box is checked.
> >
> > I want to change to L2 (marrying L1A Holder in January) and apply for
> > work authorization!
>
> Have you checked the skill list? but if you are not subject for sure
> It's good. However I would get a really good attorney(lawyer).If you
> are not subject to the 2 Year HRR you can get married and change to
> the L-2. When you apply for a J-1 visa waiver the INS or USIA consider
> you as a potential inmigrant as I have read. So, get some good advise
> and make sure you are making good choices. A waiver as I said says
> that you have intentions of inmigrate you could have troubles then
> with your L-2. I hope someone else answers to you.
> This is not a legal advise.
> Good luck,
> ISA
Ivonne,
one way to confirm if you are subject or not, because as Isabelle
mentioned sometimes even if they don't say you are not subject,
somehow you find yourself subject to the 2 years.
So to confirm if you're not, file an Advisory Opinion which takes
about one month processing, that might bring you the peace of mind.
and Yes if you are not subject to the 2 years you won't need a Waiver
and you can apply L2, also with INS submit everything you can when you
want to prove sthg, so yes submit your first IAP.
just a side note,when i applied for Advisory Opinion, my skill was
Energy engineering which was in the skills list of my country they
replied saying according to my skills list i am subject to the 2 years
and the funny thing, the skill they mentioned was in Finance (don't
know where they got that from) and that skill, finance, does not exist
in the skills list of my country... weird ha??
anyway here's the link that can help you find the information you need
for Advisory opinion, it's a simple process:
http://travel.state.gov/j_faq.html#opinions
I hope this information helps, i am currently on a job overseas and
won't be able to respond much.
good luck,
Zik
Dec 8th 2002, 2:37 pm
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Hi Zic and Izabel,
your advise was the best I got so far! Thank you very much.
I checked the visitors skill list (it took me quite some time googling, but then, I found it) and my country doesn't even exist in this list. Is this possible, or did I just not find it? This list is so long, I looked both under Germany and under Federal Republik of Germany. But nothig. I assume, there is not list for Germany, so I don't have to worry about this part anymore.
I didn't know of the option to file for an advisory opinion. I will do so (given the facts, they should state I'm not subject). Thanks for the great link, Zic!!!
One last question: If I get a letter stating I'm not subject, can or should I submit it with my request for change of status?
Thanks again, you two, and greetings from Chicago!
Ivonne
your advise was the best I got so far! Thank you very much.
I checked the visitors skill list (it took me quite some time googling, but then, I found it) and my country doesn't even exist in this list. Is this possible, or did I just not find it? This list is so long, I looked both under Germany and under Federal Republik of Germany. But nothig. I assume, there is not list for Germany, so I don't have to worry about this part anymore.
I didn't know of the option to file for an advisory opinion. I will do so (given the facts, they should state I'm not subject). Thanks for the great link, Zic!!!
One last question: If I get a letter stating I'm not subject, can or should I submit it with my request for change of status?
Thanks again, you two, and greetings from Chicago!
Ivonne
Dec 9th 2002, 12:02 am
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Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> Hi Zic and Izabel,
>
> your advise was the best I got so far! Thank you very much.
>
> I checked the visitors skill list (it took me quite some time googling,
> but then, I found it) and my country doesn't even exist in this list. Is
> this possible, or did I just not find it? This list is so long, I looked
> both under Germany and under Federal Republik of Germany. But nothig. I
> assume, there is not list for Germany, so I don't have to worry about
> this part anymore.
>
> I didn't know of the option to file for an advisory opinion. I will do
> so (given the facts, they should state I'm not subject). Thanks for the
> great link, Zic!!!
>
> One last question: If I get a letter stating I'm not subject, can or
> should I submit it with my request for change of status?
>
> Thanks again, you two, and greetings from Chicago!
>
> Ivonne
yeah it's better to submit a copy of the letter, make sure you give
them a copy of it and not the original.. the INS tend to loose
originals more than copies
of course when submitting a copy you should submitt a paper saying
that originals are available upon request...
best of luck
Zik
> Hi Zic and Izabel,
>
> your advise was the best I got so far! Thank you very much.
>
> I checked the visitors skill list (it took me quite some time googling,
> but then, I found it) and my country doesn't even exist in this list. Is
> this possible, or did I just not find it? This list is so long, I looked
> both under Germany and under Federal Republik of Germany. But nothig. I
> assume, there is not list for Germany, so I don't have to worry about
> this part anymore.
>
> I didn't know of the option to file for an advisory opinion. I will do
> so (given the facts, they should state I'm not subject). Thanks for the
> great link, Zic!!!
>
> One last question: If I get a letter stating I'm not subject, can or
> should I submit it with my request for change of status?
>
> Thanks again, you two, and greetings from Chicago!
>
> Ivonne
yeah it's better to submit a copy of the letter, make sure you give
them a copy of it and not the original.. the INS tend to loose
originals more than copies
of course when submitting a copy you should submitt a paper saying
that originals are available upon request...
best of luck
Zik
Dec 9th 2002, 7:34 am
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[email protected] (zik) wrote in message news:...
> Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> > Hi Zic and Izabel,
> >
> > your advise was the best I got so far! Thank you very much.
> >
> > I checked the visitors skill list (it took me quite some time googling,
> > but then, I found it) and my country doesn't even exist in this list. Is
> > this possible, or did I just not find it? This list is so long, I looked
> > both under Germany and under Federal Republik of Germany. But nothig. I
> > assume, there is not list for Germany, so I don't have to worry about
> > this part anymore.
> >
> > I didn't know of the option to file for an advisory opinion. I will do
> > so (given the facts, they should state I'm not subject). Thanks for the
> > great link, Zic!!!
> >
> > One last question: If I get a letter stating I'm not subject, can or
> > should I submit it with my request for change of status?
> >
> > Thanks again, you two, and greetings from Chicago!
> >
> > Ivonne
>
>
> yeah it's better to submit a copy of the letter, make sure you give
> them a copy of it and not the original.. the INS tend to loose
> originals more than copies
> of course when submitting a copy you should submitt a paper saying
> that originals are available upon request...
> best of luck
>
> Zik
Hi Ivonne One last thing. Check on your stamped visa under
Annotatation;
P 3 4474... I've just learned that under that code means that you are
subject to it. But find also some legal advise (be careful though)some
peole will try to just take your money.Or submit the Copy of the
letter...Just like Zic advised you. And you know I am not a lawyer.I
just want to help.
A bientot.
IZ
> Ivonne wrote in message news:...
> > Hi Zic and Izabel,
> >
> > your advise was the best I got so far! Thank you very much.
> >
> > I checked the visitors skill list (it took me quite some time googling,
> > but then, I found it) and my country doesn't even exist in this list. Is
> > this possible, or did I just not find it? This list is so long, I looked
> > both under Germany and under Federal Republik of Germany. But nothig. I
> > assume, there is not list for Germany, so I don't have to worry about
> > this part anymore.
> >
> > I didn't know of the option to file for an advisory opinion. I will do
> > so (given the facts, they should state I'm not subject). Thanks for the
> > great link, Zic!!!
> >
> > One last question: If I get a letter stating I'm not subject, can or
> > should I submit it with my request for change of status?
> >
> > Thanks again, you two, and greetings from Chicago!
> >
> > Ivonne
>
>
> yeah it's better to submit a copy of the letter, make sure you give
> them a copy of it and not the original.. the INS tend to loose
> originals more than copies
> of course when submitting a copy you should submitt a paper saying
> that originals are available upon request...
> best of luck
>
> Zik
Hi Ivonne One last thing. Check on your stamped visa under
Annotatation;
P 3 4474... I've just learned that under that code means that you are
subject to it. But find also some legal advise (be careful though)some
peole will try to just take your money.Or submit the Copy of the
letter...Just like Zic advised you. And you know I am not a lawyer.I
just want to help.
A bientot.
IZ
Dec 9th 2002, 3:23 pm
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thanks again, you two!
Izabel, yes, there is a quotation. Mine sais: P-3-5133.
But as far as I know, this has nothing to do with the HRR (I might be wrong), but shows the kind of Exchange visitor Program which is also stated on the DS-2019. But maybe, the kind of Program gives a hint, wether one could be subject to HRR or not. In this case, it would have something to do with it, of course. I hope, I will find out soon.
Ivonne
Izabel, yes, there is a quotation. Mine sais: P-3-5133.
But as far as I know, this has nothing to do with the HRR (I might be wrong), but shows the kind of Exchange visitor Program which is also stated on the DS-2019. But maybe, the kind of Program gives a hint, wether one could be subject to HRR or not. In this case, it would have something to do with it, of course. I hope, I will find out soon.
Ivonne
