visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Feb 13th 2006, 12:13 pm
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visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
On the application for tourist visa it asks whether your fiancee lives
in the u.s.
If my foreign fiance puts no, and we marry after his trip in his
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
Couldn't we say we got engaged during his trip? We are definately not
getting married in the u.s.
If he puts yes, his fiancee lives in america, will he undergo greater
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?
in the u.s.
If my foreign fiance puts no, and we marry after his trip in his
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
Couldn't we say we got engaged during his trip? We are definately not
getting married in the u.s.
If he puts yes, his fiancee lives in america, will he undergo greater
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?
Feb 13th 2006, 2:36 pm
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Originally Posted by Allie25
If my foreign fiance puts no, and we marry after his trip in his
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
Couldn't we say we got engaged during his trip?
If he puts yes, his fiancee lives in america, will he undergo greater
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?
Best Wishes,
Rene
Feb 13th 2006, 2:52 pm
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Originally Posted by Allie25
On the application for tourist visa it asks whether your fiancee lives
in the u.s.
If my foreign fiance puts no, and we marry after his trip in his
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
Couldn't we say we got engaged during his trip? We are definately not
getting married in the u.s.
If he puts yes, his fiancee lives in america, will he undergo greater
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?
in the u.s.
If my foreign fiance puts no, and we marry after his trip in his
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
Couldn't we say we got engaged during his trip? We are definately not
getting married in the u.s.
If he puts yes, his fiancee lives in america, will he undergo greater
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?
Let me rephrase the question you posed:
"On the application for tourist visa it asks whether your fiancee lives
in the u.s.
If my foreign fiance FALSELY puts no, and we marry after his trip in his
country will lying cause us problems when he tries to immigrate?
Couldn't we TELL A SECOND LIE AND say we got engaged during his trip? We are definately not getting married in the u.s.
If he puts yes, his fiancee lives in america, will he undergo greater
scrutiny and is it probable that he will not receive the visa?"
One a lie is on the record -- it is there FOREVER. He can get the visa, later immigrate, become a citizen and that lie will be the basis of DENATURALIZATION followed by deportation.
Are you saying this can't happen? The Supreme Court cases on "material" facts [a component of "misrepresentation"] arose in the denaturalization context and related back to facts pre-dating immigration. Note the "s" at the end of "cases."
Beyond this general comment, I'm not to give any advice to you. However, it is not nice to use a public forum to invite people answer such questions. The law on criminal conspiracy is quite frightening.
Feb 13th 2006, 11:17 pm
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Folinskyinla, thanks for your input. Im sorry you found my question so
inappropriate. I meant no harm. What Im saying is there is no way to
prove someone is engaged. Many couples know they are going to get
married, but do not call themselves fiances. Also many couples become
engaged and subsequently break up.
As far as I and anyone else is concerned, my boyfriend and I are very
serious. That's all. We hope to one day get married like every other
happy couple. If we do, immigration will ask when we got engaged, and
we will say on his trip to the u.s. Maybe we will even have an
engagement party when he comes :)
We're just trying to be together and happy. If it requires me to break
off my engagement, and then get engaged again when he comes for his
visit so be it. I'm officially un-engaged and dating my serious
boyfriend.
After having said all of that - I just wanted to let you know that we
will put that he has a fiance in the u.s. We think we have enough proof
of his true intentions that it is not necessary to tell a white lie. I
was just wondering what might happen in either case.
inappropriate. I meant no harm. What Im saying is there is no way to
prove someone is engaged. Many couples know they are going to get
married, but do not call themselves fiances. Also many couples become
engaged and subsequently break up.
As far as I and anyone else is concerned, my boyfriend and I are very
serious. That's all. We hope to one day get married like every other
happy couple. If we do, immigration will ask when we got engaged, and
we will say on his trip to the u.s. Maybe we will even have an
engagement party when he comes :)
We're just trying to be together and happy. If it requires me to break
off my engagement, and then get engaged again when he comes for his
visit so be it. I'm officially un-engaged and dating my serious
boyfriend.
After having said all of that - I just wanted to let you know that we
will put that he has a fiance in the u.s. We think we have enough proof
of his true intentions that it is not necessary to tell a white lie. I
was just wondering what might happen in either case.
Feb 14th 2006, 5:43 am
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Originally Posted by Allie25
Folinskyinla, thanks for your input. Im sorry you found my question so
inappropriate. I meant no harm. What Im saying is there is no way to
prove someone is engaged. Many couples know they are going to get
married, but do not call themselves fiances. Also many couples become
engaged and subsequently break up.
As far as I and anyone else is concerned, my boyfriend and I are very
serious. That's all. We hope to one day get married like every other
happy couple. If we do, immigration will ask when we got engaged, and
we will say on his trip to the u.s. Maybe we will even have an
engagement party when he comes
We're just trying to be together and happy. If it requires me to break
off my engagement, and then get engaged again when he comes for his
visit so be it. I'm officially un-engaged and dating my serious
boyfriend.
After having said all of that - I just wanted to let you know that we
will put that he has a fiance in the u.s. We think we have enough proof
of his true intentions that it is not necessary to tell a white lie. I
was just wondering what might happen in either case.
inappropriate. I meant no harm. What Im saying is there is no way to
prove someone is engaged. Many couples know they are going to get
married, but do not call themselves fiances. Also many couples become
engaged and subsequently break up.
As far as I and anyone else is concerned, my boyfriend and I are very
serious. That's all. We hope to one day get married like every other
happy couple. If we do, immigration will ask when we got engaged, and
we will say on his trip to the u.s. Maybe we will even have an
engagement party when he comes
We're just trying to be together and happy. If it requires me to break
off my engagement, and then get engaged again when he comes for his
visit so be it. I'm officially un-engaged and dating my serious
boyfriend.
After having said all of that - I just wanted to let you know that we
will put that he has a fiance in the u.s. We think we have enough proof
of his true intentions that it is not necessary to tell a white lie. I
was just wondering what might happen in either case.
Best Wishes...and Happy Engagement!
Rene
Feb 14th 2006, 8:54 am
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Originally Posted by Allie25
Folinskyinla, thanks for your input. Im sorry you found my question so
inappropriate. I meant no harm. What Im saying is there is no way to
prove someone is engaged. Many couples know they are going to get
married, but do not call themselves fiances. Also many couples become
engaged and subsequently break up.
As far as I and anyone else is concerned, my boyfriend and I are very
serious. That's all. We hope to one day get married like every other
happy couple. If we do, immigration will ask when we got engaged, and
we will say on his trip to the u.s. Maybe we will even have an
engagement party when he comes
We're just trying to be together and happy. If it requires me to break
off my engagement, and then get engaged again when he comes for his
visit so be it. I'm officially un-engaged and dating my serious
boyfriend.
After having said all of that - I just wanted to let you know that we
will put that he has a fiance in the u.s. We think we have enough proof
of his true intentions that it is not necessary to tell a white lie. I
was just wondering what might happen in either case.
inappropriate. I meant no harm. What Im saying is there is no way to
prove someone is engaged. Many couples know they are going to get
married, but do not call themselves fiances. Also many couples become
engaged and subsequently break up.
As far as I and anyone else is concerned, my boyfriend and I are very
serious. That's all. We hope to one day get married like every other
happy couple. If we do, immigration will ask when we got engaged, and
we will say on his trip to the u.s. Maybe we will even have an
engagement party when he comes
We're just trying to be together and happy. If it requires me to break
off my engagement, and then get engaged again when he comes for his
visit so be it. I'm officially un-engaged and dating my serious
boyfriend.
After having said all of that - I just wanted to let you know that we
will put that he has a fiance in the u.s. We think we have enough proof
of his true intentions that it is not necessary to tell a white lie. I
was just wondering what might happen in either case.
In your original post, you said "fiance" and not "boyfriend." And you are right, the line is fuzzy. I could make the arguments you are making AFTER you get into trouble. But you are asking questions about ice skating where you know the ice is thin -- and you don't want to hear advice that it just might be a good idea that you might not want to skate near the edge of the thin ice.
I know that lovers want to be together. If you want another analogy, your question is akin to asking about engaging in sex without birth control and you are asking about the chances of children before you are ready and willing.
Feb 14th 2006, 4:03 pm
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Originally Posted by Noorah101
Best Wishes...and Happy Engagement!
Oh, but Rene -- they're NOT engaged anymore. Maybe you didn't read her post properly, but she is now "officially un-engaged".
~ Jenney
ps. Please notice tongue planted firmly in cheek...
Feb 14th 2006, 4:05 pm
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Re: visiting fiancee in u.s. on b2 visa
Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
Oh, but Rene -- they're NOT engaged anymore. Maybe you didn't read her post properly, but she is now "officially un-engaged".
~ Jenney
ps. Please notice tongue planted firmly in cheek...
~ Jenney
ps. Please notice tongue planted firmly in cheek...
To the OP...really, just be honest. It's always the best policy.
Rene
