TheCrow

has anyone out there(in particular australians or Brits or anyone whose country is part of the Visa Waiver program) travelled to the US on the VWP and what do you do if you plan to stay outside of the 90 days?Ive been told by the US consulate in OZ that we can apply for a B1/B2 before the 90 days is up, in the US that is...What if we plan to start in HAWAII then across to LA travel overland to Canada and back to LA fly to CHICAGO down to CANCUN across to MIAMI/APRIL..is leaving USA on the VWP and entering Canada and going into and out of Mexico still part of the 3 months?i am told by the immigration people at USA Consulate that its all counted as 90 days?

will the immigration people really look at your ticket and where your going or can u proove you plan to leave in March show evidence to onward ticket and means to support ourselves..

can anyone help??

Trinity

First of all, I am not an immigration expert, so I could very well be completely wrong.

Here's the BCIS information on those B1/ B2 visa's you mentioned:
http://www.bcis.gov/graphics/service...usPleasure.htm

You should definitely do more research on this topic. The visa waiver can NOT be extended past its 90 days :http://www.bcis.gov/graphics/shared/...m#disadvantage

Although, if you have a B1/ B2 when you arrive, you can apply to have that extended.

Now as for the 90 days starting over by entering Canada or Mexico. It does NOT. And going in and out of the US like that may arouse suspicions and they may give you an even more difficult time. Here is the official statement on that, under the question, can I be readmitted after a short stay or similar question: http://www.bcis.gov/graphics/shared/...pp.htm#readmit

If you are "out of status" on your I-94, they will most likely not let you back in the US, no matter what your tickets say. Having evidence of an onward ticket and the ability to support yourselves is not going to get you around the rules if you dont have the proper visas.

Research. And do the proper thing. Because even when you do the proper thing, you may have problems if the people you deal with that day are not nice.

Frodo Baggins

Trinity is right on this one. You must not stay beyond the 90 days allowed
by the VWP. You are also not permitted to request a B1/B2 visa before the 90
days is up. You have to leave the country and request one at your local
consulate.

I'm also from the UK and I've used the VWP 5 times since last July and I was
grilled once at POE (given folder and asked to go into an office for further
questioning). So, before my next trip I requested a B1/B2 tourist visa.

If you haven't done so already, apply for the B1/B2 before you travel if you
wish to stay more than 90 days but be warned, you will need proof of intent
to return back to the UK (I got grilled big time when I applied for mine).
Take any proof of home ownership, job, anything that will prove you will be
flying back. I took a letter from my employer, letter from a US lawyer to
state I'm required to be at a trial (nothing serious, just helping a friend)
but still I was almost denied. Only my daughters name in my passport
convinced her that I would be flying back.

I wish you luck.

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    > has anyone out there(in particular australians or Brits or anyone whose
    > country is part of the Visa Waiver program) travelled to the US on the
    > VWP and what do you do if you plan to stay outside of the 90 days?Ive
    > been told by the US consulate in OZ that we can apply for a B1/B2 before
    > the 90 days is up, in the US that is...What if we plan to start in
    > HAWAII then across to LA travel overland to Canada and back to LA fly to
    > CHICAGO down to CANCUN across to MIAMI/APRIL..is leaving USA on the VWP
    > and entering Canada and going into and out of Mexico still part of the 3
    > months?i am told by the immigration people at USA Consulate that its all
    > counted as 90 days?
    > will the immigration people really look at your ticket and where your
    > going or can u proove you plan to leave in March show evidence to onward
    > ticket and means to support ourselves..
    > can anyone help??
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

TheCrow

ok we will apply before we go..

i am not planning on returning to Uk but OZ rather.Were packing up our house and belongings and doing the 1 year RTW trip.i will have bank statements flights etc to show we plan to leave the country.

im not sure what kind of letter i can get from my employer as i am resigning from my position but i will be getting a letter for the PR so might be able to get a copy of that.

thanks for your advice

Pulaski

I hear that it is difficult to get a tourist visa from a visa-waiver country, that many, or even most, are rejected. So even if you apply there is no guarantee that you'll get a tourist visa.

Are you planning on visiting South America? If so you could split your time in the US with a side tour there before coming back to the US and then heading for Europe.

TheCrow

Pulaski

no we hadnt really thought about going to Sth America..but i guess we could if it helps..

may i ask why you suggested Sth America?is that not part of the visa waiver program?Would that mean getting a new stamp?

thanks for your advice

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:14:43 +0000, TheCrow wrote:

    > Pulaski
    >
    > no we hadnt really thought about going to Sth America..but i guess we
    > could if it helps..
    >
    > may i ask why you suggested Sth America?is that not part of the visa
    > waiver program?Would that mean getting a new stamp?

You were indicating, IIRC, that you plan on staying in the USA for more
than 90 days as a tourist. I think Pulaski was suggesting to reduce your
time in the USA to less than 90 days, and then spend the extra time in
South America.

It doesn't make much difference in terms of the visa waiver, though.

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TheCrow

i dont think we can cut our trip short...too much to do as it is..we think we will be applying for the b1 visa before we go..
but thanks for the advice.

tbiller

You mean a B2, I hope. A B1 is a business visa.

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web...iv/b1apply.htm

This one is for travellers:

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_web/visa/niv/b2.htm

Good luck - Tim

TheCrow

hi there

yes we have b2 visa application forms...but thanks for telling me that anyway..

ralgex

What kinds of questions did they start asking after you were using the vwp on so many occassions.? 5 times is a lot, i'm surprised they let you through on all those ocassions.

I will be entering on my second this year in a month or so and am scared i will get turned away.

TheCrow

Ralgex


I dont understand what your asking me?

[What kinds of questions did they start asking after you were using the vwp on so many occassions.? 5 times is a lot, i'm surprised they let you through on all those ocassions]

We havent left yet or been to the USA so noones asked us any questions.