visa denial brasil/sao paulo
Apr 24th 2002, 9:00 am
#1
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visa denial brasil/sao paulo
Hello all,
This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if anyone has any
advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist visa denial -
particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in July. Last week
she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going to new york for
a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of the reason she
was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology program which
should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and can provide the
documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip. She has a retail
sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is only working these
types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be a psychologist.
So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians here are:
1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped it with the
denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is travelling with
them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De Janeiro. Also getting
a new passport if she does this.
She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may find out what she
is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email me with any
information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to apply for the
tourist visa again.
Sincere thanks in advance.
I do read and speak portugues, not fluently, but I can correspond in portugues if
you prefer.
Eu nao e fluente mas eu entendo portugues se voce quer escrever portugues.
Valeu, falo!
This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if anyone has any
advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist visa denial -
particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in July. Last week
she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going to new york for
a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of the reason she
was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology program which
should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and can provide the
documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip. She has a retail
sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is only working these
types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be a psychologist.
So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians here are:
1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped it with the
denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is travelling with
them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De Janeiro. Also getting
a new passport if she does this.
She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may find out what she
is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email me with any
information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to apply for the
tourist visa again.
Sincere thanks in advance.
I do read and speak portugues, not fluently, but I can correspond in portugues if
you prefer.
Eu nao e fluente mas eu entendo portugues se voce quer escrever portugues.
Valeu, falo!
Apr 28th 2002, 3:00 am
#2
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Re: visa denial brasil/sao paulo
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 05:18:52 GMT, "john r" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if anyone has any
>advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist visa denial -
>particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
>
>I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in July. Last week
>she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going to new york for
>a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of the reason she
>was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology program which
>should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and can provide
>the documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip. She has a
>retail sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is only
>working these types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be
>a psychologist. So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
>
>Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians here are:
>1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped it with the
> denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
DO NOT try to do that. It would be immigration fraud, and it would also not help
because her name is stored in Department of State computers. But it would cause her
name to be flagged, and she would be considered "suspicious" even when the issues
that first caused the denial are resolved.
>2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is travelling with
> them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
If the parents are actually travelling with her, that may indeed help. The consulate
would in this case verify the information. They should be able to show that all three
have made the plane reservations before your girlfriend's first application. And of
course all three would have to apply for visas, unless the parents already have them.
>3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De Janeiro. Also getting
> a new passport if she does this.
Don't try to do that. Same answer as item 1, plus, in most countries consulates only
serve residents of certain regions of the country. Of course, if she actually moves
from Sao Paolo to Rio De Janeiro, she would have to use the RDJ consulate.
>She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may find out what she
>is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
Rightly so.
>If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email me with any
>information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to apply for the
>tourist visa again.
See my signature - there actually is an excellent link about visa denials on the
Department of State Web site. Basically, the gist of it
is: fix whatever problem caused the visa denial.
Ingo
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
with a professional immigration attorney.
For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
For many questions, you may find answers at
http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html (Department of State)
or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html
For visa denial and suggestions what to do about them, see
http://travel.state.gov/visadenials.html
For DOL Online Labor Certification: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
For non-official information, check:
(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
know all site operators.)
http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
(dual citizenship FAQ) http://www.ilw.com http://www.srs-usvisa.com
http://www.getusavisa.com http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/
http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B) http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm http://www.workpermit.com
This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
and typically don't even know them.
(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site
listed here, please e-mail me).
>Hello all,
>
>This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if anyone has any
>advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist visa denial -
>particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
>
>I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in July. Last week
>she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going to new york for
>a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of the reason she
>was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology program which
>should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and can provide
>the documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip. She has a
>retail sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is only
>working these types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be
>a psychologist. So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
>
>Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians here are:
>1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped it with the
> denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
DO NOT try to do that. It would be immigration fraud, and it would also not help
because her name is stored in Department of State computers. But it would cause her
name to be flagged, and she would be considered "suspicious" even when the issues
that first caused the denial are resolved.
>2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is travelling with
> them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
If the parents are actually travelling with her, that may indeed help. The consulate
would in this case verify the information. They should be able to show that all three
have made the plane reservations before your girlfriend's first application. And of
course all three would have to apply for visas, unless the parents already have them.
>3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De Janeiro. Also getting
> a new passport if she does this.
Don't try to do that. Same answer as item 1, plus, in most countries consulates only
serve residents of certain regions of the country. Of course, if she actually moves
from Sao Paolo to Rio De Janeiro, she would have to use the RDJ consulate.
>She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may find out what she
>is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
Rightly so.
>If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email me with any
>information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to apply for the
>tourist visa again.
See my signature - there actually is an excellent link about visa denials on the
Department of State Web site. Basically, the gist of it
is: fix whatever problem caused the visa denial.
Ingo
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable advice, please consult
with a professional immigration attorney.
For further information, check the following frequently-requested links.
For many questions, you may find answers at
http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html (Department of State)
or http://ins.usdoj.gov (INS).
For consular policies and visa reciprocity fees, find your consulate in
http://travel.state.gov/links.html
For visa denial and suggestions what to do about them, see
http://travel.state.gov/visadenials.html
For DOL Online Labor Certification: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/
For information on affidavit of support for marriage to US citizens (I-864), go to
http://travel.state.gov/i864gen.html and http://travel.state.gov/checklist.html
For information on entering the US as a K-1: http://www.k1poelist.com/
For poverty levels, see http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/poverty/00poverty.htm
For information on H/L/O/P visa extensions at Dept. of State in St. Louis, MO, see
http://travel.state.gov/revals.html
For non-official information, check:
(When using these sites, and any Web sites, please watch out for privacy, as I do not
know all site operators.)
http://www.visalaw.com http://www.shusterman.com http://www.immigration.com
http://members.aol.com/MDUdall http://www.murthy.com/ http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
(dual citizenship FAQ) http://www.ilw.com http://www.srs-usvisa.com
http://www.getusavisa.com http://greencard-lottery.virtualave.net/
http://www.jcvisa.com (H-1B) http://www.h1bresources.com (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.kamya.com/misc/ (marriage and fiancee)
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm http://www.workpermit.com
This is not an endorsement of any of these Web sites. I am not affiliated with any of
the Web site owners and do not receive nor accept payment in return for listing them,
and typically don't even know them.
(if believe you have a good immigration-related Web site and want your Web site
listed here, please e-mail me).
Oct 22nd 2002, 2:14 pm
#3
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Re: visa denial brasil/sao paulo
Originally posted by John R:
Hello all,
This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if anyone has any
advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist visa denial -
particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in July. Last week
she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going to new york for
a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of the reason she
was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology program which
should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and can provide the
documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip. She has a retail
sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is only working these
types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be a psychologist.
So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians here are:
1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped it with the
denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is travelling with
them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De Janeiro. Also getting
a new passport if she does this.
She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may find out what she
is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email me with any
information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to apply for the
tourist visa again.
Sincere thanks in advance.
I do read and speak portugues, not fluently, but I can correspond in portugues if
you prefer.
Eu nao e fluente mas eu entendo portugues se voce quer escrever portugues.
Valeu, falo!
Hello all,
This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if anyone has any
advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist visa denial -
particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in July. Last week
she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going to new york for
a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of the reason she
was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology program which
should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and can provide the
documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip. She has a retail
sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is only working these
types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be a psychologist.
So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians here are:
1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped it with the
denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is travelling with
them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De Janeiro. Also getting
a new passport if she does this.
She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may find out what she
is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email me with any
information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to apply for the
tourist visa again.
Sincere thanks in advance.
I do read and speak portugues, not fluently, but I can correspond in portugues if
you prefer.
Eu nao e fluente mas eu entendo portugues se voce quer escrever portugues.
Valeu, falo!
Oct 22nd 2002, 2:17 pm
#4
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Re: visa denial brasil/sao paulo
Originally posted by Maira:
i don't have that much exeriences with visas either but tell her to don't get a new passport because the Imigration there keeps their records and if she tries with a new passport she can get penalties that incluing not be able to come to US for 10 years.
Oct 22nd 2002, 7:03 pm
#5
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Re: visa denial brasil/sao paulo
You are playing with fire, don't go back with a new passport. Wait a year or
so and re-apply, that might work.
"Maira" wrote in message
news:451512.1035296069@britishexpats-
.com...
> Originally posted by John R:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if
> > anyone has any
> > advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist
> > visa denial -
> > particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
> >
> > I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in
> > July. Last week
> > she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going
> > to new york for
> > a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of
> > the reason she
> > was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology
> > program which
> > should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and
> > can provide the
> > documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip.
> > She has a retail
> > sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is
> > only working these
> > types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be
> > a psychologist.
> > So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
> >
> > Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians
> > here are:
> > 1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped
> > it with the
> > denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
> > 2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is
> > travelling with
> > them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
> > 3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De
> > Janeiro. Also getting
> > a new passport if she does this.
> >
> > She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may
> > find out what she
> > is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
> >
> > If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email
> > me with any
> > information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to
> > apply for the
> > tourist visa again.
> >
> > Sincere thanks in advance.
> >
> > I do read and speak portugues, not fluently, but I can correspond in
> > portugues if
> > you prefer.
> >
> > Eu nao e fluente mas eu entendo portugues se voce quer escrever
> > portugues.
> >
> > Valeu, falo!
> --
so and re-apply, that might work.
"Maira" wrote in message
news:451512.1035296069@britishexpats-
.com...
> Originally posted by John R:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > This is my first newsgroups participation. I am writing to see if
> > anyone has any
> > advice with regards to my brasilian girlfriend and her recent tourist
> > visa denial -
> > particularly now after the 9/11 incident in NY.
> >
> > I live in New York City and we planned that she would come visit in
> > July. Last week
> > she went to the american consulate in SP and told them she was going
> > to new york for
> > a vacation for a month. She is 21, which I understand may be part of
> > the reason she
> > was denied. She is a full time student enrolled in a 5 year psychology
> > program which
> > should be in her favor. She also comes from a middle class family and
> > can provide the
> > documents necessary to show that she has enough money for the trip.
> > She has a retail
> > sales job in a store, which is not a serious job for her as she is
> > only working these
> > types of jobs while she is in school. When she graduates, she will be
> > a psychologist.
> > So I understand she has to wait a month to apply for the visa again.
> >
> > Some of the ideas i've received from speaking to a few brasilians
> > here are:
> > 1) For her to get a new passport before trying again as they stamped
> > it with the
> > denial code and this will be difficult when she goes back.
> > 2) Going to the consulate with her parents and saying that she is
> > travelling with
> > them. I was told this may help being that she is young.
> > 3) Going to the american consulate in another city like Rio De
> > Janeiro. Also getting
> > a new passport if she does this.
> >
> > She is worried about getting a new passport as she thinks they may
> > find out what she
> > is trying to do since she just received her first passport this month.
> >
> > If anyone has any recent experience with this situation, please email
> > me with any
> > information you may have that might help us the next time she goes to
> > apply for the
> > tourist visa again.
> >
> > Sincere thanks in advance.
> >
> > I do read and speak portugues, not fluently, but I can correspond in
> > portugues if
> > you prefer.
> >
> > Eu nao e fluente mas eu entendo portugues se voce quer escrever
> > portugues.
> >
> > Valeu, falo!
> --
