britnyank

Hi.
UK married to US spouse 3years. Still living in UK at present, planning a move to AZ in August.
Husband has 'Indefinite Leave to Remain' in UK right now.
I have Immigrant Visa (valid until 29/09/06)
I suggested to husband that he should apply for British Citizenship before we leave for USA (we have been married 3+ years) but he is (being American!) wary of taking UK citzenship in case it invalidates his US citizenship.
I have told him this is not the case - that he cannot lose US citizenship unless he formally relinquishes it - but he is not convinced!
Experiences please?
Or websies for concrete info?
Thanks.......

Bob

slap him with a wet fish for being so silly

Your right, unless he specifically relinquishes it, he won't lose his US citizenship just by getting Brit citizenship.

There are plenty of links knocking around this forum though...

but here's one to start with - http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html

Noorah101

Hiya!

Wow, August, eh? Getting close now! Tell hubby to go for the UK citizenship. He can hold dual citizenship w/o relinquishing his USA citizenship, and it will make it so much easier to go back and forth!

Best Wishes,
Rene

ian-mstm

I hold both UK and US citizenship. It is not an issue.

Ian

janadeen

Slap him really hard.

It would only take him 5 minutes on a computer to confirm this.

Bob

only took a second to get pages of info off google to confirm it *lol*

sgallagher

Noorah101 wrote:
    > > Hi.
    > > UK married to US spouse 3years. Still living in UK at present,
    > > planning a move to AZ in August.
    > > Husband has 'Indefinite Leave to Remain' in UK right now.
    > > I have Immigrant Visa (valid until 29/09/06)
    > > I suggested to husband that he should apply for British Citizenship
    > > before we leave for USA (we have been married 3+ years) but he is
    > > (being American!) wary of taking UK citzenship in case it invalidates
    > > his US citizenship.
    > > I have told him this is not the case - that he cannot lose US
    > > citizenship unless he formally relinquishes it - but he is not
    > > convinced!

Taking British citizenship will not cause him to lose his US
citizenship.

Check out http://www.richw.org/dualcit/

I can speak from experience, as I hold both US and British citizenship
(and Canadian citizenship too).

scrubbedexpat099

My missus had the same thoughts, but had a re-think and will go for it if and when we go back.

Mh

In article <[email protected]> ,
ian-mstm <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> Hi.
    >> UK married to US spouse 3years. Still living in UK at present,
    >> planning a move to AZ in August.
    >> Husband has 'Indefinite Leave to Remain' in UK right now.
    >> I have Immigrant Visa (valid until 29/09/06)
    >> I suggested to husband that he should apply for British Citizenship
    >> before we leave for USA (we have been married 3+ years) but he is
    >> (being American!) wary of taking UK citzenship in case it invalidates
    >> his US citizenship.
    >> I have told him this is not the case - that he cannot lose US
    >> citizenship unless he formally relinquishes it - but he is not
    >> convinced!
    >> Experiences please?
    >> Or websies for concrete info?
    >> Thanks.......
    >I hold both UK and US citizenship. It is not an issue.
    >Ian

Don't be so quick to judge the man as "silly" (not necessarily you, Ian, but
the people in this thread).. I had to relinquish my german citizenship in
order to accept Canadian citizenship. Otherwise, I'd be dual with a chance
at triple citizenship in a couple of years..

So, while the US does the sensible thing, not ALL countries do..

MH

Bob

That's true, though Germany does allow dual citizenship, you've just got to get an approval permit thingy before applying for another citizenship...

Mh

In article <[email protected]> ,
Bob <member27413@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> In article <[email protected]> ,
    >> ian-mstm <member2954@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> >> Hi.
    >> >> UK married to US spouse 3years. Still living in UK at present,
    >> >> planning a move to AZ in August.
    >> >> Husband has 'Indefinite Leave to Remain' in UK right now.
    >> >> I have Immigrant Visa (valid until 29/09/06)
    >> >> I suggested to husband that he should apply for British Citizenship
    >> >> before we leave for USA (we have been married 3+ years) but he is
    >> >> (being American!) wary of taking UK citzenship in case it
    >> >> invalidates
    >> >> his US citizenship.
    >> >> I have told him this is not the case - that he cannot lose US
    >> >> citizenship unless he formally relinquishes it - but he is not
    >> >> convinced!
    >> >> Experiences please?
    >> >> Or websies for concrete info?
    >> >> Thanks.......
    >> >I hold both UK and US citizenship. It is not an issue.
    >> >Ian
    >> Don't be so quick to judge the man as "silly" (not necessarily you,
    >> Ian, but
    >> the people in this thread).. I had to relinquish my german citizenship
    >> in
    >> order to accept Canadian citizenship. Otherwise, I'd be dual with a
    >> chance
    >> at triple citizenship in a couple of years..
    >> So, while the US does the sensible thing, not ALL countries do..
    >> MH
    >That's true, though Germany does allow dual citizenship, you've just got
    >to get an approval permit thingy before applying for another
    >citizenship...

Since when? I tried to read up on the laws 2 years ago when I got Canadian
citizenship, and it was basically "you have to show strong ties to Germany
to keep citizenship if you accept foreign citizenship". I couldn't really do
that..

MH

scrubbedexpat099

I had read the same thing, might want to check the current position, I do not remember the details, just that with Germany it was a bit more complicated.

Bob

Not being a German, I ain't all that bothered and never really read up on it in all that much detail...but, I've read a few times on this forum of germans getting dual citizenship over the last couple of years, and also a friend of my mother who is german got dual citizenship.

Mh

In article <[email protected]> ,
Bob <member27413@british_expats.com> wrote:
    >> In article <[email protected]> ,
    >> Bob <member27413@british_expats.com> wrote:

[cut - sorry if I messed up the quotes]

    >> >That's true, though Germany does allow dual citizenship, you've just
    >> >got
    >> >to get an approval permit thingy before applying for another
    >> >citizenship...
    >> Since when? I tried to read up on the laws 2 years ago when I got
    >> Canadian
    >> citizenship, and it was basically "you have to show strong ties to
    >> Germany
    >> to keep citizenship if you accept foreign citizenship". I couldn't
    >> really do
    >> that..
    >> MH
    >Not being a German, I ain't all that bothered and never really read up
    >on it in all that much detail...but, I've read a few times on this forum
    >of germans getting dual citizenship over the last couple of years, and
    >also a friend of my mother who is german got dual citizenship.


Yeah, it's certainly much more easily POSSIBLE now, but not for someone like
me who was born there, but hasn't lived there in 25+ years..

http://www.germany.info/relaunch/inf...uergerung.html

(German Consulate in USA - info in german for german citizens) basically
says exactly what I said before (my german isn't 100% anymore, please
forgive me if I miss-paraphrase some of the technical wording):

As of Jan 1, 2000, a new law for citizenship rights became official. It
contains new regulations for keeping citizenship when aquiring foreign
citizenship. This makes it substantially easier for Germans living in the
USA who wish to obtain US citizenship to also keep their german citizenship.
...
In principle, accepting foreign citizenship causes loss of german
citizenship.
...
The new law removes many criteria previously required to keep german
citizenship, and makes it much easier to do so. ... however, requires
consideration of public and private interest. For an applicant whose
domicile is outside of Germany, special consideration will be given as to
whether or not he has continuing ties to Germany.

Such ties could consist of: relationships with close relatives, property,
living quarters, rent or insurance contracts(?), corporate ownership, bank
accounts, schooling and/or apprenticeship training in Germany, regular trips
to Germany, multi-year stays in Germany.

...
Also, those who are temporarily in a foreign country where that is of
advantage to Germany or their family (something like that).

---
I was born there, left when I was 8 (my family emigrated). I have aunts and
uncles and cousins. I've been back twice since we left. We left in '79, I've
been back in '82 and '03. Only attended grades 1 and 2 in Germany. I have
absolutely no close ties.

My parents could probably do this: my dad has siblings, spent probably 30
years there, has a pension from Germany, etc..

For me - after looking at that list, I didn't even bother.

MH

Elvira

I believe you have to actually live in the UK to qualify for citizenship...