Jadm

Facts:
Uk-USA marriage going on 3 years, awaiting final decision on removal
of conditions for me (UK spouse) while here in states.
we want to move to the UK and live, i know we can file paperwork via
the British Consolate in NY for my USA spouse..blah blah, but is it at
all possible to go over to the UK (we will be residing with my family)
and file for her in London once there?

P Pron

jadm wrote:
    > Facts:
    > Uk-USA marriage going on 3 years, awaiting final decision on removal
    > of conditions for me (UK spouse) while here in states.
    > we want to move to the UK and live, i know we can file paperwork via
    > the British Consolate in NY for my USA spouse..blah blah, but is it
at
    > all possible to go over to the UK (we will be residing with my
family)
    > and file for her in London once there?


http://www.britainusa.com/visas/guid...ent_Spouse.asp

"Settlement: Spouse

...........A person seeking admission to the United Kingdom in this
category MUST be in possession of an Entry clearance granted for this
purpose prior to the arrival in the United Kingdom. Failure to obtain
clearance will result in refusal of entry........."

mstracy

Simply put, no. It has been done in the past, but you would risk deportation as the USC would have to lie in order to enter the country. This would exclude the possibility of residence. Since it is so easy to get a visa for US spouse, why would you want to lie your way in anyway?


Mark

cindyabs

The idea of being able to walk in and walk out the same day with a visa seems wonderful to me and not a hardship at all. Plus the spouse can work in the UK right away and not have to wait for EADs like the K3 folk here.
Go for it and good luck.

ScousePete

You know that if you do leave the US and stay out for over a year you are pretty much throwing away your greencard. If you ever want to come back and live in the States at some time in the future you will have to begin the process all over again.

Why don't you begin the application for citizenship (based on 3 years of marriage) Once you have your US passport you can live wherever you want for however long you want.

Just a thought...

Andy Platt

With the processing times at the consulates my question would be why the
hell would you want to do this? Anyway, I would seriously consider getting
US citizenship before moving over there so that if you want to move back you
won't have to start on the US immigration process again.

Andy.

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"jadm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Facts:
    > Uk-USA marriage going on 3 years, awaiting final decision on removal
    > of conditions for me (UK spouse) while here in states.
    > we want to move to the UK and live, i know we can file paperwork via
    > the British Consolate in NY for my USA spouse..blah blah, but is it at
    > all possible to go over to the UK (we will be residing with my family)
    > and file for her in London once there?

ScousePete

There must be an echo in here because I thought that was exactly what I said, only a few hours earlier

Jadm

your right, we will file through the consolute...btw...we were under
the impression that even if we BOTH were-are USC that if we remain out
of the USA for longer than 2 years then wanted to come live back in
the states for any reason we would have to go the
"immigration-route"...ie: need sponsors , ect as i went through.
thoughts?

ScousePete

No, once you have that blue passport you are sorted for life. No more sponsors, INS/BCIS/USCIS any more for you.

Bluegrass Lass

Once you're a citizen, coming and going is no problem. You're both allowed to come back anytime. The only way to give up US Citizenship, if I remember correctly, is to make a sworn statement in front of a Consular Official.

Do be aware though, that even though you may both be living overseas, if you are both citizens, you still have to file taxes with the IRS here in the US.

Michael Nash

[email protected] (jadm) wrote in news:f0037eae.0401241814.53624567
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    > Facts:
    > Uk-USA marriage going on 3 years, awaiting final decision on removal
    > of conditions for me (UK spouse) while here in states.
    > we want to move to the UK and live, i know we can file paperwork via
    > the British Consolate in NY for my USA spouse..blah blah, but is it at
    > all possible to go over to the UK (we will be residing with my family)
    > and file for her in London once there?
    >

My wife moved with me to the UK on a tourist visa and made that fact clear
to immigration upon arrival. We took all of the information with us as if
we were applying for entry clearance at the port of entry. The immigration
officer my wife spoke with simply pointed out that we eventually needed
entry clearance, made sure that my wife had a return journey booked
(important) and let us go. She didn't even want to see proof of marriage
etc etc. We returned to the US two months later to celebrate thanksgiving
and to get entry clearance for my wife.

You don't really need to file paperwork with the UK Consulate in the USA.
Just turn up with a filled in application. As long as you don't have
anything that might affect your wifes entry into the UK you should have
entry clearance for her the same day. It took just two hours for my wife to
get entry clearance (to live and work) - just a big sticker in the back of
her passport. The filing cost was $460 (regardless of the outcome) when my
wife and I applied - but this cost varies with every month since it is tied
to sterling. If you decide to do it this way avoid using the fast track
application method. The day that my wife and I were there the computer
system suffered a glitch and those that forgot to print out a mandatory
piece of information were having to spend most of the day trying to sort
that out. I didn't see anybody there attempting to sort out the system.
Suffice to say, my wife and I were processed long before many of the fast
track applicants that day.

I came to the conclusion early on that since I don't live in London, it
might be a lot more hassle for my wife and I to travel to London and endure
the very long queues at the UK Embassy/Consulate. You have to remember that
there are a lot of people wanting to live and stay in the UK, hence the
queues at the Embassy, but there aren't that many wanting to get out of the
USA. Get to the UK Consulate in New York at 8.30am and you may even be at
the front of the queue ! We were lucky enough in that my wife lived on Long
Island so getting to NYC wasn't a problem.

Of course this doesn't really answer your question. My feeling is that you
must apply at the consulate where you are currently residing otherwise it
may raise suspicions and make the processing unnecessarily complicated.

I hope all goes well,

Mike.

Jadm

So you are saying to apply beforehand at the UK embassy in NY? we dont
live anywhere near NY (we are in the south) so we cant go in person.*

Mrraveltay

jadm wrote:
    > So you are saying to apply beforehand at the UK embassy in NY? we dont
    > live anywhere near NY (we are in the south) so we cant go in person.*

The UK Embassy to the US is in Washington. There is a UK consulate in NY
, as well as other cities.


Near the end of this post, I have added the link for you to get
information on getting the appropriate visa to bring a spouse to live in
the UK

You didn't say where in the south you were.
When I selected the link below for Louisiana, I got a Los Angeles
address. If in Texas, you get the Houston consulate address.

(For me, pushing the "go" button after selecting the state seemed to
just reshow the page. I then figured out if I did not push the go button
after selecting the state, it would then show the page with the
consulate address that was appropriate)

http://www.britainusa.com/visas/guid...ent_Spouse.asp

You can apply by mail, but an interview may be needed.

Jadm

    > Once you're a citizen,
    > coming and going is no problem. You're both allowed to come back
    > anytime. The only way to give up US Citizenship, if I remember
    > correctly, is to make a sworn statement in front of a Consular
    > Official.
    >
    > Do be aware though, that even though you may both be living
    > overseas, if you are both citizens, you still have to file taxes with
    > the IRS here in the US.

now that makes NO sense, why would we have to do that if we are
residents working and living in the UK?

Jadm

thank you for the link, it states on that page to "a valid passport is
needed"...understandibly...but surely you DON'T send the actual
passport with the paperwork, right?
we know a couple who just moved over to the UK (UK-USA marriage) and
all the did was aquire an entry visa for the American spouse ahead of
time, via NY. also...we have been told even though we will be living
and working in the UK we will stil have to pay American taxes, is this
so? it makes no sense as we will have NO income derived from the USA.
???????