TSC - I751
 

Maybe someone here knows exactly how mail is handled by TSC or any
service center and would help me provide me with some answers. I
mailed my petition to remove conditions on residency Feb 28, it was
received and signed for on Mar 1st 2003 by a Michael Salcedo according
to the signature USPS has on their files. The Delivery Receipt I got
back has a Mar 4, 2003 INS/TSC stamp on it. Is this the date that the
petition was actually received by BCIS?
Do they actually open the package once received or they just throw the
whole package in their warehouse unopened. The reason I am asking is
because I have been told by an IIO at TSC that it takes 4-6 weeks for
one to have their check cashed, then last week Friday I was told that
my petition was most likely lost in the mail. I gave them a few days
to get their act together and called them again yesterday was told the
same.
I have since re-submitted the petition in case it was actually
lost/misplaced by BCIS.
I am planning on going to the Miami District Office for a stamp in my
passport to extend my GC. What do I need to take with me if I do not
have an NOA nor do I have a receipt number since my check has yet to
be cashed?
Thanks in advance.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Go to the link below, that might help answering your question a little bit.

http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...al/index.htm#C

Re: TSC - I751
 

From my own experience, TSC's handling of their official paperwork s_cks!!
We submitted our first I-751 to TSC in January and it was received on Jan
23. Our second
attempt was made a month after that in late Feb. Here it is April 10 and
we have heard
nothing from TSC about either package, and in neither case has the check
been cashed.
My wife's card expires in 3 weeks, and we are considering a third package,
but not until
we talk to our US Senator first.


wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Maybe someone here knows exactly how mail is handled by TSC or any
    > service center and would help me provide me with some answers. I
    > mailed my petition to remove conditions on residency Feb 28, it was
    > received and signed for on Mar 1st 2003 by a Michael Salcedo according
    > to the signature USPS has on their files. The Delivery Receipt I got
    > back has a Mar 4, 2003 INS/TSC stamp on it. Is this the date that the
    > petition was actually received by BCIS?
    > Do they actually open the package once received or they just throw the
    > whole package in their warehouse unopened. The reason I am asking is
    > because I have been told by an IIO at TSC that it takes 4-6 weeks for
    > one to have their check cashed, then last week Friday I was told that
    > my petition was most likely lost in the mail. I gave them a few days
    > to get their act together and called them again yesterday was told the
    > same.
    > I have since re-submitted the petition in case it was actually
    > lost/misplaced by BCIS.
    > I am planning on going to the Miami District Office for a stamp in my
    > passport to extend my GC. What do I need to take with me if I do not
    > have an NOA nor do I have a receipt number since my check has yet to
    > be cashed?
    > Thanks in advance.

Re: TSC - I751
 

I am in the same boat. Its been more 6 weeks already since my package
was delivered and I find the same name Salcedo signing in for the
package. What does this guy do? Throws the application package to the
nearest trash can or something or what? I saw some posts earlier also
mentioning the same guy's name and the package not being received by
TSC. Their phone is always busy. You cant even get in touch. I kept
pressing the redial button for four hours without a single miss and it
didnt get me nowhere. I am really frustrated also.










abir007 wrote in message news:...
    > Go to the link below, that might help answering your question a
    > little bit.
    >
    > ]http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...tional/index.-
    > htm#C[/url]

Re: TSC - I751
 

Well, I sent my I751 in on January 26th, check was cashed about 1 - 1 1/2 weeks later. Got 2 NOA saying
"Received $145.00 in the form of Personal Check and from XXXX"
"Your alien card is extended 12 months - emplyment and travel authorized. Processing your form will require a minimum of 120 days. If you have not heard from us within six (6) months, then you may contact this office."

Notice that it said "minimum of 120 days." So I'm not holding my breath. I'm fine for one year. I received this letter in early February, since it is dated January 30, 2003. Funny that I should get 2 of them.

So basically once they start your process you have to be patient. I've learnt patience well, since with my I129 it took 9 months to get home to my fiance, now husband. And at that time that was fairly fast compared to now.

I did all my processing through TSC and still am designated to go there. So ....

Patience, patience, patience. How long can we keep this up. But at least I'm home and with my husband. That makes things easier to handle.

Best to all. Hope some of this info will help someone.

Quyrah (Montreal, QC, Canada, now Tennessee)
RV (Texas, now Tennessee)

See my Post from April 10 ...
 

Here's part of my post from April 10 ...

BREAKING NEWS …. TSC! (1) I-751’s (2) NO MORE TELEPHONE CALLS!
I finally talked to an intelligent BCIS Officer at the TSC today, and for all of us I-751’ers waiting to have our checks cashed or waiting to receive our NOA from the TSC, I have the proverbial “good news and bad news�.

The good news is they haven’t LOST our I-751’s.

The bad news is that our I-751’s have NOT even been ENTERED into the system … and they will NOT be entered into the system for some time.

The BCIS Officer told me that they are having a problem in their “Receiving Area�. I asked him what he meant by this, and he said they have a “computer glitch� - the system is not accepting I-751 petitions. He said they cannot even enter I-751’s into the system. He said this means, “we can’t receive them�, and therefore, he said, “we can’t send out a receipt�. He also said that this means they can’t cash our checks, because the I-751’s have to be “received� first, and of course, since they can’t be received, our checks can’t be cashed.

He said they are working on the problem, but he didn’t have a fix date. He said he is hoping it is fixed within the next two weeks, but he really didn’t know when it would be done [of course, even if it is fixed, then there will be “catch-up� – assuming they have the personnel to do this!! – so I wouldn’t think we will have our checks cashed or NOA’s anytime soon].

He also said that they have sent BCIS Officers at the TSC an email with an attached spreadsheet that lists, by Alien Registration Number, the I-751’s that have been physically received at the TSC, but cannot be entered into the system (i.e., received).

He said that as of yesterday, there were 1,472 in total on the list. Yes, I asked him to repeat it, and he said 1,472! Ouch!

He said found my I-751 on the list (btw, my I-751 was physically received at the TSC on February 15, 2003, according to the USPS).

So, it looks like I will be waiting for quite some time to get my check cashed or receive my NOA.

He suggested that I go down to my local district BCIS office, tell them that I have filed my I-751, and that they would stamp my passport, or he said they even have a stamp that they can stamp onto the back of my green card.

I asked him how they can do that, if they cannot find me in the system. He said that it doesn’t matter if you are in the system or not. He said that when your GC is about to expire, they will automatically extend it for one year (even if they don’t have a record of your application to renew it). I find this hard to believe!

Anyway, that’s my news on I-751’s.

- Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

Ouch! Thanks Cortez for updating. I thought BCIS was going to make
things better but I guess not. Everytime some new organizational
changes are done at INS things always get worst for its customers. I
hope they stamp the green cards which I really doubt. I know they dont
stamp the green cards but they do stamp passports after seeing NOA
which is unlikely in our cases. However dealing with a good friends
case and after repeated promises by their supervisors who he met at
the office the case was never resolved. Finally it was resolved when a
congressional inquiry was done at his behalf which got INS finally
rolling after three lousy years of empty promises to get his
citizenship ceremony done.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Well, I can tell we are dealing with the "Texas" Service Center, because
that is one of the
biggest piles of B_ll-Sh_t I have heard in quite a while.

Our paperwork has been processed for more than 2 months because of a
"computer"
problem that won't be fixed for weeks??? They have not "received" ANY new
I-751s
in all that time? This is pathetic. Everyone who has been stuck in the
"traffic jam"
at the TSC should forward your email to their entire Congressional
delegation(as I am
going to do).


"Cortez" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Here's part of my post from April 10 ...
    > BREAKING NEWS .. TSC! (1) I-751's (2) NO MORE TELEPHONE CALLS!
    > I finally talked to an intelligent BCIS Officer at the TSC today, and
    > for all of us I-751'ers waiting to have our checks cashed or waiting
    > to receive our NOA from the TSC, I have the proverbial "good news and
    > bad news".
    > The good news is they haven't LOST our I-751's.
    > The bad news is that our I-751's have NOT even been ENTERED into the
    > system . and they will NOT be entered into the system for some time.
    > The BCIS Officer told me that they are having a problem in their
    > "Receiving Area". I asked him what he meant by this, and he said they
    > have a "computer glitch" - the system is not accepting I-751 petitions.
    > He said they cannot even enter I-751's into the system. He said this
    > means, "we can't receive them", and therefore, he said, "we can't send
    > out a receipt". He also said that this means they can't cash our checks,
    > because the I-751's have to be "received" first, and of course, since
    > they can't be received, our checks can't be cashed.
    > He said they are working on the problem, but he didn't have a fix date.
    > He said he is hoping it is fixed within the next two weeks, but he
    > really didn't know when it would be done [of course, even if it is
    > fixed, then there will be "catch-up" - assuming they have the personnel
    > to do this!! - so I wouldn't think we will have our checks cashed or
    > NOA's anytime soon].
    > He also said that they have sent BCIS Officers at the TSC an email with
    > an attached spreadsheet that lists, by Alien Registration Number, the
    > I-751's that have been physically received at the TSC, but cannot be
    > entered into the system (i.e., received).
    > He said that as of yesterday, there were 1,472 in total on the list.
    > Yes, I asked him to repeat it, and he said 1,472! Ouch!
    > He said found my I-751 on the list (btw, my I-751 was physically
    > received at the TSC on February 15, 2003, according to the USPS).
    > So, it looks like I will be waiting for quite some time to get my check
    > cashed or receive my NOA.
    > He suggested that I go down to my local district BCIS office, tell them
    > that I have filed my I-751, and that they would stamp my passport, or he
    > said they even have a stamp that they can stamp onto the back of my
    > green card.
    > I asked him how they can do that, if they cannot find me in the system.
    > He said that it doesn't matter if you are in the system or not. He said
    > that when your GC is about to expire, they will automatically extend it
    > for one year (even if they don't have a record of your application to
    > renew it). I find this hard to believe!
    > Anyway, that's my news on I-751's.
    > - Cortez
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Re: TSC - I751
 

Thanks so much Cortez for that information.

I will try going down the District Office see if I can get me a stamp
in my passport without an NOA/Receipt.

Cortez wrote in message news:...
    > Here's part of my post from April 10 ...
    >
    > BREAKING NEWS ?. TSC! (1) I-751?s (2) NO MORE TELEPHONE CALLS!
    > I finally talked to an intelligent BCIS Officer at the TSC today, and
    > for all of us I-751?ers waiting to have our checks cashed or waiting
    > to receive our NOA from the TSC, I have the proverbial ?good news and
    > bad news?.
    >
    > The good news is they haven?t LOST our I-751?s.
    >
    > The bad news is that our I-751?s have NOT even been ENTERED into the
    > system ? and they will NOT be entered into the system for some time.
    >
    > The BCIS Officer told me that they are having a problem in their
    > ?Receiving Area?. I asked him what he meant by this, and he said they
    > have a ?computer glitch? - the system is not accepting I-751 petitions.
    > He said they cannot even enter I-751?s into the system. He said this
    > means, ?we can?t receive them?, and therefore, he said, ?we can?t send
    > out a receipt?. He also said that this means they can?t cash our checks,
    > because the I-751?s have to be ?received? first, and of course, since
    > they can?t be received, our checks can?t be cashed.
    >
    > He said they are working on the problem, but he didn?t have a fix date.
    > He said he is hoping it is fixed within the next two weeks, but he
    > really didn?t know when it would be done [of course, even if it is
    > fixed, then there will be ?catch-up? ? assuming they have the personnel
    > to do this!! ? so I wouldn?t think we will have our checks cashed or
    > NOA?s anytime soon].
    >
    > He also said that they have sent BCIS Officers at the TSC an email with
    > an attached spreadsheet that lists, by Alien Registration Number, the
    > I-751?s that have been physically received at the TSC, but cannot be
    > entered into the system (i.e., received).
    >
    > He said that as of yesterday, there were 1,472 in total on the list.
    > Yes, I asked him to repeat it, and he said 1,472! Ouch!
    >
    > He said found my I-751 on the list (btw, my I-751 was physically
    > received at the TSC on February 15, 2003, according to the USPS).
    >
    > So, it looks like I will be waiting for quite some time to get my check
    > cashed or receive my NOA.
    >
    > He suggested that I go down to my local district BCIS office, tell them
    > that I have filed my I-751, and that they would stamp my passport, or he
    > said they even have a stamp that they can stamp onto the back of my
    > green card.
    >
    > I asked him how they can do that, if they cannot find me in the system.
    > He said that it doesn?t matter if you are in the system or not. He said
    > that when your GC is about to expire, they will automatically extend it
    > for one year (even if they don?t have a record of your application to
    > renew it). I find this hard to believe!
    >
    > Anyway, that?s my news on I-751?s.
    >
    > - Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

Well this morning I was able to get thru to TSC, and I inquired about
the receipt of my I-751. The Officer told me of how they are having
trouble in their receiving area and he could only confirm the receipt
of my 751 looking me up on a worksheet using my A#. The estimated time
to get a receipt once everything is rectified is 15-20 days.


Cortez wrote in message news:...
    > Here's part of my post from April 10 ...
    >
    > BREAKING NEWS ?. TSC! (1) I-751?s (2) NO MORE TELEPHONE CALLS!
    > I finally talked to an intelligent BCIS Officer at the TSC today, and
    > for all of us I-751?ers waiting to have our checks cashed or waiting
    > to receive our NOA from the TSC, I have the proverbial ?good news and
    > bad news?.
    >
    > The good news is they haven?t LOST our I-751?s.
    >
    > The bad news is that our I-751?s have NOT even been ENTERED into the
    > system ? and they will NOT be entered into the system for some time.
    >
    > The BCIS Officer told me that they are having a problem in their
    > ?Receiving Area?. I asked him what he meant by this, and he said they
    > have a ?computer glitch? - the system is not accepting I-751 petitions.
    > He said they cannot even enter I-751?s into the system. He said this
    > means, ?we can?t receive them?, and therefore, he said, ?we can?t send
    > out a receipt?. He also said that this means they can?t cash our checks,
    > because the I-751?s have to be ?received? first, and of course, since
    > they can?t be received, our checks can?t be cashed.
    >
    > He said they are working on the problem, but he didn?t have a fix date.
    > He said he is hoping it is fixed within the next two weeks, but he
    > really didn?t know when it would be done [of course, even if it is
    > fixed, then there will be ?catch-up? ? assuming they have the personnel
    > to do this!! ? so I wouldn?t think we will have our checks cashed or
    > NOA?s anytime soon].
    >
    > He also said that they have sent BCIS Officers at the TSC an email with
    > an attached spreadsheet that lists, by Alien Registration Number, the
    > I-751?s that have been physically received at the TSC, but cannot be
    > entered into the system (i.e., received).
    >
    > He said that as of yesterday, there were 1,472 in total on the list.
    > Yes, I asked him to repeat it, and he said 1,472! Ouch!
    >
    > He said found my I-751 on the list (btw, my I-751 was physically
    > received at the TSC on February 15, 2003, according to the USPS).
    >
    > So, it looks like I will be waiting for quite some time to get my check
    > cashed or receive my NOA.
    >
    > He suggested that I go down to my local district BCIS office, tell them
    > that I have filed my I-751, and that they would stamp my passport, or he
    > said they even have a stamp that they can stamp onto the back of my
    > green card.
    >
    > I asked him how they can do that, if they cannot find me in the system.
    > He said that it doesn?t matter if you are in the system or not. He said
    > that when your GC is about to expire, they will automatically extend it
    > for one year (even if they don?t have a record of your application to
    > renew it). I find this hard to believe!
    >
    > Anyway, that?s my news on I-751?s.
    >
    > - Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

e_lt_,

When are you planning on going to your local District BCIS office (i.e., how long before your GC expires)? Did the BCIS officer give you any advice on how far in advance of the expiration you should go? Did he say anything about getting it stamped even though you wouldn't be on the BCIS system as having filed your I-751?

Also, where is your local office?

Thanks,

- Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

Sometime next week I will be going down the local BCIS office, I got
1.5 months left before my GC expires. But I want to cover the bases
since I will be out of the country when it does expire. Well from the
information I could get from the officer, he was saying that I could
go down to my local office and request an extension (stamp in my
passport) of my GC. The officer was saying that the people at the
local office should have the worksheet with people who have filed
their 751 at TSC but cannot be entered into the system to generate a
receipt. I will take my return receipts as evidence that the 751 was
file. We did not go into much details on instances of say how far
beyond the expiration of the GC I could wait before trying to get a GC
extension stamp.
By the way my local office is Miami District Office, although I did my
AOS in New Orleans.

Cortez wrote in message news:...
    > e_lt_,
    >
    > When are you planning on going to your local District BCIS office (i.e.,
    > how long before your GC expires)? Did the BCIS officer give you any
    > advice on how far in advance of the expiration you should go? Did he
    > say anything about getting it stamped even though you wouldn't be on the
    > BCIS system as having filed your I-751?
    >
    > Also, where is your local office?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > - Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

Guys, I spoke to an agent today and was told this thing is entered on
a seperate system and they are not able to fix this problem. No time
limit on that. Secondly, they also said district offices are not going
to stamp your passports simply because they dont have any proof of
your filing and the money received. Thirdly, they have got our apps in
a spreadsheet that they have received all our paperwork but this
spreadsheet cannot be emailed or sent to district offices and district
offices wont stamp our passports based a spreadsheet. They have to
have all the information in the right sequence before they can even
mail out a NOA and without that they wont stamp your passport. The
agent also said I sympathize with all of you but i am sorry cant help
you at all. No directions as to who to complain and where to complain.
Hope you all have good luck.

Re: TSC - I751
 

I also called in this morning to confirm what the previous officer had
told me before I camping out at Miami District Office. And was told
the officer that with a receipt/noa the chances of getting the stamp
are very slim. That saved me from wasting time at the district office.
Will just have to wait out this thing, let BCIS sort out their
problems.

[email protected] (Newbie) wrote in message news:...
    > Guys, I spoke to an agent today and was told this thing is entered on
    > a seperate system and they are not able to fix this problem. No time
    > limit on that. Secondly, they also said district offices are not going
    > to stamp your passports simply because they dont have any proof of
    > your filing and the money received. Thirdly, they have got our apps in
    > a spreadsheet that they have received all our paperwork but this
    > spreadsheet cannot be emailed or sent to district offices and district
    > offices wont stamp our passports based a spreadsheet. They have to
    > have all the information in the right sequence before they can even
    > mail out a NOA and without that they wont stamp your passport. The
    > agent also said I sympathize with all of you but i am sorry cant help
    > you at all. No directions as to who to complain and where to complain.
    > Hope you all have good luck.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Well, if left to BCIS to sort out this thing, it would take years or
eons and by that time I believe our spouses would be illegal and
unable to travel. I believe the correct approach is to start writing
your congressional representatives. See if they can help. I know for a
fact that protesting and writing letters to congressional
representatives did help out a lot of I-129F applicants a few weeks
ago. In fact this article is posted on the net on
http://www.stephenpalik.com/ins/

In fact INS agent also told me today to write my congressman about
this problem that we are all having. Good luck to you all and please
try harder. I know I will.


[email protected] wrote in message news:...
    > I also called in this morning to confirm what the previous officer had
    > told me before I camping out at Miami District Office. And was told
    > the officer that with a receipt/noa the chances of getting the stamp
    > are very slim. That saved me from wasting time at the district office.
    > Will just have to wait out this thing, let BCIS sort out their
    > problems.
    >
    > [email protected] (Newbie) wrote in message news:...
    > > Guys, I spoke to an agent today and was told this thing is entered on
    > > a seperate system and they are not able to fix this problem. No time
    > > limit on that. Secondly, they also said district offices are not going
    > > to stamp your passports simply because they dont have any proof of
    > > your filing and the money received. Thirdly, they have got our apps in
    > > a spreadsheet that they have received all our paperwork but this
    > > spreadsheet cannot be emailed or sent to district offices and district
    > > offices wont stamp our passports based a spreadsheet. They have to
    > > have all the information in the right sequence before they can even
    > > mail out a NOA and without that they wont stamp your passport. The
    > > agent also said I sympathize with all of you but i am sorry cant help
    > > you at all. No directions as to who to complain and where to complain.
    > > Hope you all have good luck.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Well, if left to BCIS to sort out this thing, it would take years or
eons and by that time I believe our spouses would be illegal and
unable to travel. I believe the correct approach is to start writing
your congressional representatives. See if they can help. I know for a
fact that protesting and writing letters to congressional
representatives did help out a lot of I-129F applicants a few weeks
ago. In fact this article is posted on the net on
http://www.stephenpalik.com/ins/

In fact INS agent also told me today to write my congressman about
this problem that we are all having. Good luck to you all and please
try harder. I know I will.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Hey Guys, how about reapplying at the district offices instead of the
service centers this time ? Do you guys think it would work if it is
still within the 90 days period since in this case the INS officer
personally would get the check and application and they cant say it is
not in our system. I just thought of that. Maybe someone can guide me
on that so I can camp out that place in the wee hours of the night?
Please help !!

Re: TSC - I751
 

"Newbie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hey Guys, how about reapplying at the district offices instead of the
    > service centers this time ? Do you guys think it would work if it is


I-751 must be filed at the Service Center.

http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/howdoi/remcond2.htm


FWIW I never recieved an NOA or extension letter, but my check cleared and 5
months later (3/03) I received the removal of conditions letter. I did not
try to go to the INS office for a stamp although I did have the receipt/case
no (from the copy of the cleared check) since I didn't need to.


    > still within the 90 days period since in this case the INS officer
    > personally would get the check and application and they cant say it is
    > not in our system. I just thought of that. Maybe someone can guide me
    > on that so I can camp out that place in the wee hours of the night?
    > Please help !!

Re: TSC - I751
 

The problem we have is that TSC cannot enter I-751(s) into their system. And
if they cannot enter received I-751 into their system, they cannot cash the
check/money order or whatever form of payment was used, in turn a receipt or
NOA cannot be generated. I think this is the sequence of event from what I
was meant to understand from Immigration Information Officers. I am on day
60 and counting from the day INS/TSC received my petition and I still do not
they have not cashed my check, I believe there are others at the same
service center past 60 days.
The question I have do I just sit and assume that everything is ok with my
petition.

"Anon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Newbie" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hey Guys, how about reapplying at the district offices instead of the
    > > service centers this time ? Do you guys think it would work if it is
    > I-751 must be filed at the Service Center.
    > http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/howdoi/remcond2.htm
    > FWIW I never recieved an NOA or extension letter, but my check cleared and
5
    > months later (3/03) I received the removal of conditions letter. I did
not
    > try to go to the INS office for a stamp although I did have the
receipt/case
    > no (from the copy of the cleared check) since I didn't need to.
    > > still within the 90 days period since in this case the INS officer
    > > personally would get the check and application and they cant say it is
    > > not in our system. I just thought of that. Maybe someone can guide me
    > > on that so I can camp out that place in the wee hours of the night?
    > > Please help !!

Re: TSC - I751
 

Interesting. I wonder if we can verify that sequence of events ?

My check got cashed last week. Got a copy of it and there's a case number on
it too. I wonder if it needs to be put into the computer to get a case
number ?


"e_lt_" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > The problem we have is that TSC cannot enter I-751(s) into their system.
And
    > if they cannot enter received I-751 into their system, they cannot cash
the
    > check/money order or whatever form of payment was used, in turn a receipt
or
    > NOA cannot be generated. I think this is the sequence of event from what I
    > was meant to understand from Immigration Information Officers. I am on day
    > 60 and counting from the day INS/TSC received my petition and I still do
not
    > they have not cashed my check, I believe there are others at the same
    > service center past 60 days.
    > The question I have do I just sit and assume that everything is ok with my
    > petition.
    > "Anon" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > "Newbie" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hey Guys, how about reapplying at the district offices instead of the
    > > > service centers this time ? Do you guys think it would work if it is
    > >
    > >
    > > I-751 must be filed at the Service Center.
    > >
    > > http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/howdoi/remcond2.htm
    > >
    > >
    > > FWIW I never recieved an NOA or extension letter, but my check cleared
and
    > 5
    > > months later (3/03) I received the removal of conditions letter. I did
    > not
    > > try to go to the INS office for a stamp although I did have the
    > receipt/case
    > > no (from the copy of the cleared check) since I didn't need to.
    > >
    > >
    > > > still within the 90 days period since in this case the INS officer
    > > > personally would get the check and application and they cant say it is
    > > > not in our system. I just thought of that. Maybe someone can guide me
    > > > on that so I can camp out that place in the wee hours of the night?
    > > > Please help !!
    > >
    > >
    > >

Re: TSC - I751
 

Guys, Please see another post below where people who have applied in
April 2003 have received their NOA's from TSC. I wonder if they have
fixed their problems already and now they are finally updating them as
soon as they get em. This also means we are out of luck since most of
us here have applied before April and not getting our checks cashed or
NOA's. Please see the post below





From: CG ([email protected])
Subject: TSC cashed our I-751 check, should I expect a NOA soon?


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Date: 2003-04-17 04:49:49 PST


Hi everyone,

I have a question regarding the I-751

My husband and I mailed our joint petition Monday april 7 (last week)
and the check
was cashed on Tuesday april 15, or at least that's when it posted to
our bank
statement online.

Should I be expecting a NOA pretty soon?

I have no clue about any of the 751 process, now I'm freaking out.. :p

Thank you for your help
CG
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From: cengotita ([email protected])
Subject: Re: TSC cashed our I-751 check, should I expect a NOA soon?


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Date: 2003-04-17 07:40:05 PST


I filed end of February (TSC) and they cashed my check within a week
of
receiving my package. However, I still have not received an NOA.

I hear they are having problems entering the I-751s in their system
and
that the problem may be solved within 2-3 weeks.

Anybody have any other info?

Thanks

--
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From: Newbie ([email protected])
Subject: Re: TSC cashed our I-751 check, should I expect a NOA soon?


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Date: 2003-04-19 09:53:56 PST


Well at least you are lucky in having your check cashed. That means
you are going to get an NOA soon. Did you apply to TSC? Where is your
district office? The rest of us are waiting for three or more months
and our checks have not been cashed and that means we wont get an NOA
and no stamp on the passport to extend our green cards.
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From: CG ([email protected])
Subject: Re: TSC cashed our I-751 check, should I expect a NOA soon?


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Date: 2003-04-19 17:31:19 PST


Hi Newbie,

Well, let me tell you the latest news... I am soooo psyched, hehe,.. I
haven't been
able to sleep well since we mailed the I-751, then they cashed the
check a few days
later and today we got the NOA. I was like in shock after reading how
long other
people like you have been waiting for it. I guess there is no set
rule on this
matters.

So this is what happened time wise:

April 7, 2003 - Mailed regular mail (not even with a delivery
notice)

April 15, 2003 - Cashed check posted in our bank account

April 19, 2003 - Received NOA (dated April 9, 2003)

Well that's it.. now lets just wait another 120 days (at least) to see
what happens.

Good luck to you as well. And I'll keep posted on the events that'll
follow.

CG


"Newbie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    | Well at least you are lucky in having your check cashed. That means
    | you are going to get an NOA soon. Did you apply to TSC? Where is
your
    | district office? The rest of us are waiting for three or more months
    | and our checks have not been cashed and that means we wont get an
NOA
    | and no stamp on the passport to extend our green cards.
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From: Vermyndax (alexander@!nospam!.red-abstract.com)
Subject: Re: TSC cashed our I-751 check, should I expect a NOA soon?


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Date: 2003-04-19 09:41:04 PST


No. BCIS is always happy to cash all of your checks ASAP when your
application arrives. After that, you're put in the very, very long
line.
They do not wait for approval or processing to cash your check.

--Alexander

"CG" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi everyone,
    > I have a question regarding the I-751
    > My husband and I mailed our joint petition Monday april 7 (last week) and the check
    > was cashed on Tuesday april 15, or at least that's when it posted to our bank
    > statement online.
    > Should I be expecting a NOA pretty soon?
    > I have no clue about any of the 751 process, now I'm freaking out.. :p
    > Thank you for your help
    > CG

Re: TSC - I751
 

I saw the post and I asked myself the same question. That is had they fixed
their problem with I-751(s) at TSC. The weird thing is that his NOA was
generated second week of April, yet last week when I called the story was
they still did not know when the problem was going to be fixed. Maybe the
IIO(s) hadn't been updated with new information as per I-751. They had over
1400 I-751 that could not be entered into the system if you read the message
below. Who knows how long it takes them to enter these I-751(s)? Maybe his
I-751 came in the day the system got fixed. But then the second petition I
mailed in was received the day after his petition was received and entered
into the system. I am thinking that since I still had sometime before my GC
expires (05/30), they entered his into the system since it was expiring that
same week and also dealt with other petitions that had GCs expired or about
to expire. Thursday this week I have an appt with my US House Rep
immigration aide to see how they can be of help.
Say when is your GC expiring?
"Newbie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Guys, Please see another post below where people who have applied in
    > April 2003 have received their NOA's from TSC. I wonder if they have
    > fixed their problems already and now they are finally updating them as
    > soon as they get em. This also means we are out of luck since most of
    > us here have applied before April and not getting our checks cashed or
    > NOA's. Please see the post below

"Cortez" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Here's part of my post from April 10 ...
    > BREAKING NEWS .. TSC! (1) I-751's (2) NO MORE TELEPHONE CALLS!
    > I finally talked to an intelligent BCIS Officer at the TSC today, and
    > for all of us I-751'ers waiting to have our checks cashed or waiting
    > to receive our NOA from the TSC, I have the proverbial "good news and
    > bad news".
    > The good news is they haven't LOST our I-751's.
    > The bad news is that our I-751's have NOT even been ENTERED into the
    > system . and they will NOT be entered into the system for some time.
    > The BCIS Officer told me that they are having a problem in their
    > "Receiving Area". I asked him what he meant by this, and he said they
    > have a "computer glitch" - the system is not accepting I-751 petitions.
    > He said they cannot even enter I-751's into the system. He said this
    > means, "we can't receive them", and therefore, he said, "we can't send
    > out a receipt". He also said that this means they can't cash our checks,
    > because the I-751's have to be "received" first, and of course, since
    > they can't be received, our checks can't be cashed.
    > He said they are working on the problem, but he didn't have a fix date.
    > He said he is hoping it is fixed within the next two weeks, but he
    > really didn't know when it would be done [of course, even if it is
    > fixed, then there will be "catch-up" - assuming they have the personnel
    > to do this!! - so I wouldn't think we will have our checks cashed or
    > NOA's anytime soon].
    > He also said that they have sent BCIS Officers at the TSC an email with
    > an attached spreadsheet that lists, by Alien Registration Number, the
    > I-751's that have been physically received at the TSC, but cannot be
    > entered into the system (i.e., received).
    > He said that as of yesterday, there were 1,472 in total on the list.
    > Yes, I asked him to repeat it, and he said 1,472! Ouch!
    > He said found my I-751 on the list (btw, my I-751 was physically
    > received at the TSC on February 15, 2003, according to the USPS).
    > So, it looks like I will be waiting for quite some time to get my check
    > cashed or receive my NOA.
    > He suggested that I go down to my local district BCIS office, tell them
    > that I have filed my I-751, and that they would stamp my passport, or he
    > said they even have a stamp that they can stamp onto the back of my
    > green card.
    > I asked him how they can do that, if they cannot find me in the system.
    > He said that it doesn't matter if you are in the system or not. He said
    > that when your GC is about to expire, they will automatically extend it
    > for one year (even if they don't have a record of your application to
    > renew it). I find this hard to believe!
    > Anyway, that's my news on I-751's.
    > - Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

I called last wednesday also and INS agent told me they have not
updated their systems yet so i am still confused about people who
posted those messages. My date is 5-03-2003 so you know why i am
worried. I also asked the INS agent what to do if I am caught without
a valid green card and she said I cant help you in that
Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! No travel and nothing that i can do basically

Re: TSC - I751
 

Btw, INS agent also told me that they will not update our green cards
until and unless we have an NOA because at the offices they wont know
anything about our apps if they are not entered into their systems. So
I dont know what INS agent gave Cortez that info cause she sure told
me there is no way that you will be able to get a stamp or an
extension without NOA.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Don't you think that it would be good idea going down to the district
office for stamp. 2/3 months extension until you get a receipt or something
from TSC. The reason I am saying that, I called yesterday and was told this
is new and a shocker, and I quote "it is going to take them a while to clear
backlog entering I-751s into the system, therefore I wait 3 months for a
receipt, if I have not received anything from them in 3 months I call back".
I did not even want to start asking what I could in the meantime when my
card expires.


"Newbie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I called last wednesday also and INS agent told me they have not
    > updated their systems yet so i am still confused about people who
    > posted those messages. My date is 5-03-2003 so you know why i am
    > worried. I also asked the INS agent what to do if I am caught without
    > a valid green card and she said I cant help you in that
    > Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! No travel and nothing that i can do basically

Re: TSC - I751
 

Newbie,
I am as worried as you are so have been working the phone to find out
exactly what happens to me after my card expires. Well BCIS National
Customer Service say that we should be okay that is if the Service
Center received your application. Btw did you call in to confirm that
you are actually on that worksheet. If you haven't do that, maybe that
could calm you down for a couple of hours :).
I was reading through these pages
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/howdoi/remcond.htm and
http://www.immigration.gov/lpBin/lpe...htm#slb-act216
, and they state that one's legal permanent residence is terminated if
no petition is filed with respect to the alien in accordance with the
provisions of paragraph (1)(A). I am thinking that our petitions are
filed, so we should be okay. The problem is when do they actually send
us the receipt.
If you remember the 1472 backlog on I-751(s), this morning I called as
is the routine with me now to find out whether or not my petition was
entered into the system. I did not get the answer I wanted to hear,
but they are down to 700 petitions pending to be entered into the
system. I will keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. Say have
you had the chance to talk to your US House Rep?

EL

[email protected] (Newbie) wrote in message news:...
    > I called last wednesday also and INS agent told me they have not
    > updated their systems yet so i am still confused about people who
    > posted those messages. My date is 5-03-2003 so you know why i am
    > worried. I also asked the INS agent what to do if I am caught without
    > a valid green card and she said I cant help you in that
    > Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! No travel and nothing that i can do basically

Re: TSC - I751
 

Idea is only good if they do stamp the passport. As I inquired earlier
about this I was told by the same INS agent that they are not going to
stamp your passport at the district office without a NOA because the
agents at the district office dont have any way of checking if your
app has been received or not and without that they wont stamp your
passport. Dont know if it is worth to camp out there from 3 am to get
this done.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Just food for thought! If you applied and you know your application is there, then I wouldn't worry so much. If you have to travel, then you may need some proof that they received your app. Once they cash your check, & when they process the initial paperwork in the system, they just send you a form letter stating that you've been extended another year and that if you don't hear from them after 120 days that you should contact them. I filed my I-751 at the end of January and fortunately received my letter just before they got bogged down. Now when the finalization will be who knows, but I do have the paper that say's I'm extended for work and travel.

Call them and see if there is something they can even fax you as proof that you are there. That might ease your mind.

Best to all of us waiting in line for our I-751's to go through.
:-)


Q.

Re: TSC - I751
 

Yes I am on that list also as an INS agent already informed me on that
part. She also said that we dont know when it would be processed which
doesn't mean we would ever get to see our NOA's from the looks of it.
Secondly she also said its a computer glitch. A computer glitch that
has been on for 3 months!!! Thirdly, we are on a spreadsheet but if we
are ever arrested for anything you think they would call BCIS and with
the way they have their phone systems working at TSC :) We are on our
own since that list doesnt mean jack sh** to us.

On contacting congressman their liason officer told me since the
Homeland security dept took over it is usually out of our area.

Anyways good luck to you guys.

Ok, I have been out of "action" for a month - my wife and I were blessed with the birth of our second child - a boy this time - on April 22. So, as you can imagine, I haven't had much time for anything else.

Does anyone have any updates as to their I-751 Petition status at TSC? The idiots still tell me (I can't remember the last time I called, but it was early this month) that they haven't fixed the problem. But this is absolute BS, because if you notice, it seems everyone who has been submitting I-751's lately have been receiving their NOA's or having their checks cashed, and some posts state that they have even had their conditions removed!!

What a crock - and my GC has expired!!!!!

I did speak with one TSC IIO, and she ended up sending me a letter saying they received my I-751, but that they were having problems putting it into the system, and that they apologized. They didn't state anything else.

I wonder if the local BCIS office will accept this as some (albeit weak) evidence that I have filed my I-751 in time?

Would love to hear from anyone!

- Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

Well the situation at TSC for I-751s, I stress some (because there are those
filing now that are getting NOAs) has not changed at all. It is coming to 90
days since when our petition was received by TSC and I am yet to see a
cashed check or an NOA. But I have gotten a letter from them claiming that
they have my I-751 and that they have technical problems in data entry so
the delay in receiving a receipt from them. I think they send it you after
you request the letter, although the claim that it has been sent out.
Beginning of this week my congressman was telling me that they had solved
the software problem they had in data entry, and since they were backlogged
4 months it would take them 30 days to get a receipt.. This is laughable
because I do not understand how it takes someone 4 months to fix a software
problem that generates receipts. A few days later I called TSC to find out
what it is I could use without an NOA and a cashed check, after the officer
tells me that they do not know when it is that they are going to start
inputting our I-751s and they have not been able to enter data for I-751
received the last 4 months, those who have received NOAs, it was luck that
they got them. Anyways she tells me that I carry with me the letter I got
from them, my passport and green card, and I should be able to get an
extension from the local office.
That is exactly what I did today, after 12 hours at the Miami District
Office I got me an extension.


"Cortez" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Ok, I have been out of "action" for a month - my wife and I were blessed
    > with the birth of our second child - a boy this time - on April 22. So,
    > as you can imagine, I haven't had much time for anything else.
    > Does anyone have any updates as to their I-751 Petition status at TSC?
    > The idiots still tell me (I can't remember the last time I called, but
    > it was early this month) that they haven't fixed the problem. But this
    > is absolute BS, because if you notice, it seems everyone who has been
    > submitting I-751's lately have been receiving their NOA's or having
    > their checks cashed, and some posts state that they have even had their
    > conditions removed!!
    > What a crock - and my GC has expired!!!!!
    > I did speak with one TSC IIO, and she ended up sending me a letter
    > saying they received my I-751, but that they were having problems
    > putting it into the system, and that they apologized. They didn't state
    > anything else.
    > I wonder if the local BCIS office will accept this as some (albeit weak)
    > evidence that I have filed my I-751 in time?
    > Would love to hear from anyone!
    > - Cortez
    > --
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Re: TSC - I751
 

Yeah, we can relate. We sent one I-751 to TSC that was "received" on Jan
23, and a
second(since we assumed the first one was lost) on about Feb 23. In neither
case have we
gotten anything from TSC, no NOA, no cashed check, not even a
Fare-thee-well. Another
couple we know from this area(NC) sent their I-751 to TSC the same day we
did, and they
had an NOA about 8 days later. Of course I guess they were just "lucky".
My US Senator's
office has contacted them twice, and each time they gave a different
lame-_ss excuse about
why things were not being processed. They claimed my wife's name and Alien
Registration
number was on the "list" to be processed, but nobody would say how or when.
So now we
have been waiting about 120 days for am NOA. God only knows when they will
actually
get us the Green card.


"Cortez" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Ok, I have been out of "action" for a month - my wife and I were blessed
    > with the birth of our second child - a boy this time - on April 22. So,
    > as you can imagine, I haven't had much time for anything else.
    > Does anyone have any updates as to their I-751 Petition status at TSC?
    > The idiots still tell me (I can't remember the last time I called, but
    > it was early this month) that they haven't fixed the problem. But this
    > is absolute BS, because if you notice, it seems everyone who has been
    > submitting I-751's lately have been receiving their NOA's or having
    > their checks cashed, and some posts state that they have even had their
    > conditions removed!!
    > What a crock - and my GC has expired!!!!!
    > I did speak with one TSC IIO, and she ended up sending me a letter
    > saying they received my I-751, but that they were having problems
    > putting it into the system, and that they apologized. They didn't state
    > anything else.
    > I wonder if the local BCIS office will accept this as some (albeit weak)
    > evidence that I have filed my I-751 in time?
    > Would love to hear from anyone!
    > - Cortez
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Well, at least the first part of the wait is finally over...

Today (5/27/03) we received our I-751 NOA in the mail. They backdated it to 02/18/03 (in the "Notice Date" box) - which just happens to be a couple of days after the date the USPS says the then INS received it - 02/15/03.

Apparently, they don't want our money. The NOA also says:

RECEIVED F E E W A I V E D
FROM:

I don't quite understand what that means, but that's what it says.

The equally enlightening main body of the NOA is short:

"YOUR ALIEN REGISTRATION CARD IS EXTENDED 12 MONTHS - EMPLOYMENT AND TRAVEL AUTHORIZED. PROCESSING YOUR FORM WILL REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 120 DAYS. IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM US WITHIN SIX (6) MONTHS, THEN YOU MAY CONTACT THIS OFFICE.

That's it. Nothing more.

So, to all of those of you in my shoes, it looks like it will just be a matter of time before they get through the backlog, or whatever the heck it is they are doing.

Best wishes and best of luck.

I'm going to be monitoring this thread and the NG daily (if I can), so please keep me posted!

Thanks all!

- Cortez

Re: TSC - I751
 

Congratulations and thanks for the update. One question, when you say
"Apparently, they don't want our money", does that mean that they have
not cashed the check yet you sent with the petition.

Thanks.

Cortez wrote in message news:...
    > Well, at least the first part of the wait is finally over...
    >
    > Today (5/27/03) we received our I-751 NOA in the mail. They
    > backdated it to 02/18/03 (in the "Notice Date" box) - which just
    > happens to be a couple of days after the date the USPS says the then
    > INS received it - 02/15/03.
    >
    > Apparently, they don't want our money. The NOA also says:
    >
    > RECEIVED F E E W A I V E D
    > FROM:
    >
    > I don't quite understand what that means, but that's what it says.
    >
    > The equally enlightening main body of the NOA is short:
    >
    > "YOUR ALIEN REGISTRATION CARD IS EXTENDED 12 MONTHS - EMPLOYMENT AND
    > TRAVEL AUTHORIZED. PROCESSING YOUR FORM WILL REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 120
    > DAYS. IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM US WITHIN SIX (6) MONTHS, THEN YOU MAY
    > CONTACT THIS OFFICE.
    >
    > That's it. Nothing more.
    >
    > So, to all of those of you in my shoes, it looks like it will just be a
    > matter of time before they get through the backlog, or whatever the heck
    > it is they are doing.
    >
    > Best wishes and best of luck.
    >
    > I'm going to be monitoring this thread and the NG daily (if I can), so
    > please keep me posted!
    >
    > Thanks all!
    >
    > - Cortez

e_lt_,

Good catch! The BCIS in typical fashion does not know what it is doing. After reading your post, I decided to check my checking account online - and sure enough, the BCIS cashed my $105 check (if only it had been there three months ago!).

So, I guess the "F E E W A I V E D" statement in my NOA is just another case of the BCIS saying one thing and doing another.

I guess the good news is that it means that you may have your check showing up as being cashed before you receive (and even if you do not receive) your NOA, then at least you have your SRC number.

I know that you have your passport stamped and all, but having the SRC number, even if you don't get the NOA may at least help if anything ever comes up.

I guess my next task is to ask the NG if I just carry around my NOA, or if I need to go to the local BCIS office and have my passport stamped on the basis of the NOA...

BTW, I was going to go down to the local BCIS office (and try to do what you did with the little "oops, we're sorry we can't enter your petition in the system - but we do have it letter" to get my passport stamped) either this week or next (because my mom is in town to help look after the new baby), but my wife called me at work on the 27th saying we got the NOA!

Thanks for keeping me updated! Keep me posted on your NOA situation - and when you will be filing for citizenship (if you are going to do so) ... I know will be - as soon as I am permitted.

- Cortez

e_lt_,

Just wondering what's happening in your world? Any word from the BCIS?

- Cortez

No, what it means is that you filed during that approximately 1 month period of time where they dropped the fee. The “fee waived� is what they put in because the program was not set up to list that new amount of $105.00 that was only around for a matter or days.

I got one like that too (for an I-751) from the TSC filed during that same time frame and it took quite a while (months) for that notice to show up (and months for my check to clear my bank). I was actually starting to worry and was about to contact the TSC when it showed up. I had a feeling filing during this period would cause a glitch that would slow down the receipt of the notice, and I was right... it did.

I suppose it’s a natural thing to jump to a conclusion that the BCIS does not know what it’s doing, but actually it’s that you don't know why BCIS did what it did.

M.U.

Hmmm ...

Is it an official BCIS communication that the reason you give is the "why" the BCIS did what it did, or are you making that assumption?

And, I wouldn't exactly characterize it as "it’s that you don't know why BCIS did what it did," nor would I call it "jumping to a conclusion".

"Fee Waived" is pretty clear on its face.

- Cortez

You were assuming the BCIS did not know what it was doing, and that is a conclusion on your part. I simply pointed out that you did not know why the BCIS did what it did. Yes, “fee waived� is clear language, but the question of “why� they listed that language, when it is equally clear that they did not waive our fees, is what I’m talking about.

There were a few postings in this very thread from people who were told that due to a glitch they were not able to input the data. I-751’s use the old antiquated MAFIS system, not the newer Claims 3 software system.

(As a side note, I was at the L.A. INS office on the morning of the first day of the reduced fees, and I was the first attorney to pay the reduced fees. It took forever for the woman to figure out how to work their cash register in order to be able to accept the reduced fees and issue a receipt showing the lower amounts... and even then, the receipts were mutated from their normal format).

Putting “fee waived� on the notices was apparently the only way they had to issue the notices at all. They couldn't list the old amount of $145.00 since $145.00 was not the amount paid, and obviously they did not fix it during that 30 day or so period to be able to list $105.00.

But cases filed when the old fees were brought back in went through fine and dandy as their system was already programmed to print notices listing that amount.

They also already had programmed into their system the ability to list notices with "fee waived" on them. The BCIS has always waived fees for people who could show that it was justified to waive those fees, and have always been able to generate notices with “fee waived� written on them.

So instead of reprogramming the notices to say $105.00, they instead just selected the option of putting fee waived. That way, people could get their notices, and they could also then deposit the checks (I assume your would rather have your notice now instead of still waiting for a notice that said they received $105.00).

I’ll bet we will see more reports from people who filed during that approximately 1 month window, reporting the same thing, that their notices say fee waived and that their checks just cleared the bank.

I’ll bet I’ll also see questions about this on the next TSC liaison report since there will be other AILA attorneys receiving the same thing. I’ll let you know when I see an official answer from the TSC about this.

M.U.

Re: TSC - I751
 

I am sorry folks, was meant to give you an update on my adventures with
BCIS. Well I did manage to get an NOA out TSC for my I-751, I received it
06/09/03. The day they decided that they were tired of me calling for an
update of when I would be getting my NOA. It was printed out 5/29/03 the day
my PRC expires and extend my card for a year with travel and work
authorized. Now I am on the waiting list of I-751s that are waiting to be
reviewed, that is the language they used on the extra petitions I had sent
to them that they return to me. At least with part over, now the wait begins
for either an interview or going down to the local office for a new card
once my petition is approved.




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