Whymewhyme

Yes but how are they supposed to know otherwise? They can't mind read. Not being a douche here but there was no way of them knowing anyway and they don't break out the lie detector so what harm would it do since theres no way of them knowing anyway?

Bluegrass Lass

None of this really matters now, IMO. You applied for the B2 previously and it was denied. After your ESTA was denied, you now have no choice but to reapply for a B2 using information from your current circumstances. There's no need to bring up a g/f that no longer exists. Show them your income, mortgage/lease statements, bank statements, etc to prove strong ties to the UK. If they reject your evidence and deny you the B2 again, you have little recourse & will not be visiting the US again anytime soon. (EDIT: without a visa, you won't be visiting again soon. you may want to consider looking into other types of visas you may qualify for, not just a B2)

Whymewhyme

Well what about these two options:

1.) Reapply now with the same info I got denied with including this letter from my now ex gf which really no longer applies since we don't talk anymore.

2.) Wait 6-12 months and get:

A.) apartment lease
B.) bigger bank balance
C.) new ties
D.) longer established limited company (as it is only 2 months old right now)

henryh

When it comes to immigration it really is best to stay on the right side of what is a fairly clear line between legal and illegal. There is no such thing as a little fib.

You won't get many people publicly advising you to lie. Those that do, you should probably steer clear of since their other advice is probably not too good.

So in your interview the officer asked you "Do you have a girlfriend in the US?" and you said "No I do not."? If that's the case, you're in a sticky situation. Maybe this time you should still tell them that you did have a girlfriend but don't any more. Maybe not. It's your call.

The letter from your ex sounds like something you should not show. A letter saying "xxx can stay with me for 2 weeks while he's visiting LA" might be good, but one saying "I love xxx and he can stay with me for as long as he likes" screams immigrant intent.

If waiting a few months will let you show more ties, that's probably a good idea. Don't forget that you might have to book embassy appointments well in advance.

Whymewhyme

Well she wrote a plutonic letter, nothing about me as a bf, she works for an immigration lawyer herself so she knows the deal with this kind of thing.

I think I'll wait then and stack up the ties, seems like the logical and best option right now unless anyone disagrees?

Bob

Moved to the visa section as it's an immigration/visa question.

ian-mstm

You just don't seem to get it. When you knock on someone's door and ask permission to enter, you'd best be prepared to be denied entry. If they let you in, that's great! If not, you leave. It's simple. You have *no* entitlement whatsoever to enter the US - and US immigration laws are specifically designed to keep non-US citizens *OUT* of the US.

If you don't think it's fair that a country can set it's own rules and regulations, then you're going to grow old and bitter at life's apparent inequities.

Ian

Whymewhyme

Yeah well I'm just saying, considering we followed the US into a bullshit war while every other country didn't want a part of it (not to mention what we have done in the past for the usa) it seems like a total crock. I mean I can understand they'd be paranoid about illegals but to persecute someone like me who has clearly no intentions of staying there illegally it seems a bit off. Also you have 100 miles of open borders, the whole thing is just really lame and not appropriate or fair. That's all I'm saying here. It's wrong. The whole thing is assbackwards imo.

henryh

I think it's pretty sucky too, but don't take that attitude to the Embassy or POE or you will be out on your ear. For them it's yes sir, no sir, three bags full

Whymewhyme

I know, I am always the gentleman with these types of authority.

ian-mstm

You seem to think that actually matters to the US. It doesn't. There is *no* "special relationship" that exists between the US and the UK... it is *all* media hype and nothing more. If you have believed that hype, then I'm sorry.


It never fails... whenever someone gets ticked off at the inequitiy of the US immigration system, they bring illegal aliens into the equation. Here's some news for you... illegal aliens had nothing whatsoever to do with your current situation. Don't like it? TFB.

Ian

Whymewhyme

K, not here to argue about it, just expressing my disdain.

I'll try again in 6-12 months and just keep trying.

Thanks for the input.

Bluegrass Lass

Does that mean I can use that 'special relationship' the US has with the UK to up and go to Scotland and stay there for long periods of time, even w/out the proper visa? By your logic, I shouldn't have to show that I have no immigration intent or have buckets of money to support myself.

You are not being persecuted or singled out.

Whymewhyme

Well in my opinion I did show that I didn't have intentions of staying there. I thought I showed enough evidence but obviously in hindsight I didn't. I'm really not here to argue, just find a solution so while I appreciate your comments on this I'd rather stay on topic and hear what others have to say about evidence I need to show, etc so I can reapply for this.

Eric S

I think we're all agreed that the only way you're going to be able to visit the US again is by applying and getting a B-2 visa. If you apply and get denied, there is no reason you can't apply again at a later date.

I know of several people from countries that are not part of the VWP who applied for B-2 visas for years and were denied several times, until finally one day they got approved. So don't think a denial is the end of the story.

Good luck.
- Eric S.