mr.rugby

Hello everyone,

I sincerely apologize if this has been covered, as no doubt it has been many numerous times. The bottom line here, is I have been enquiring into moving/relocating to the US, and from what I am reading I can only come up with these options to get into the country. Please feel free to comment, point me in the right direction etc as I am totally new to all this stuff. The only options I can see are...

1. Fall in love, get married, gain citizenship.
2. Get a job, either a fresh job, current job relocation etc.
3. Go to study.
4. Green card.

I will tell you a little bit about myself. I am a 25 year old male with a computer science bachelors degree. I also have other formal IT qualifications. I have about 4 years experience in IT. My criminal record is fully clear. Due to my job I have highest level security clearance, so from a character point of view I personally think I am pretty fine. I live at home, have good savings, my own car which I own, and could sell at the drop of a hat for some more money, so financially there are no issues. I am currently in a bit of a rut, and would like to give it all up, and head to the states. A standard visa only allows 90 days in the country, which realistically is not enough. Being a UK citizen, I am also eligible for dual nationality with the Irish Republic, and I was wondering if it would be easier that way?

Please can someone give me any kind of advice, no matter how small would be greatly appreciated. I am willing to answer any questions. Please feel free to be as blunt with me too if required, I appreciate I may be living in a dream world

Thanks in advance

meauxna

It's a quiet holiday here. I'm going to suggest that you read the sticky thread (really really read me) to make adjustments to the list you have (which is more or less right) and then spend your day browsing the forum for the other posts similar to yours.

There is a similar thread in the USA forum; it never got moved to Immigration because they don't really have a shot at a visa.
No visa, no moving.


You need a close family member, specialized employment or a stroke of very good luck, those are about the only ways into the US.

mr.rugby

Thanks for that... I am assuming that there is no way of getting a visa longer than the standard 90 day holiday visa without a job offer or something similar?

meauxna

For what purpose? Just hanging out? No, not really.

The 90 day admission is not a visa, it's the visa waiver program.. waiving the need for a visa. Since you are allowed to come hassle free for a 90 day visit, that should cover your tourist activity.

Plenty of people here will tell you that it would be foolish to chuck what you've got going now to come here because you feel in a rut.
Take a year off traveling. I did that (and again and again). It cured my rut.

lansbury

Not without a job offer from a company willing to sponsor you for a visa. Or if you work for a company with offices in the US, an inter company transfer.

Number 1 on you list is always available, providing it is a genuine relationship of course.

christmasoompa

It wouldn't make it any easier, but I'm intrigued - how can you get dual nationality just because you are a UK citizen?

mr.rugby

thanks for that... I realise number 1 on my list as you say is probably best... however, I am not bad with the ladies, but to seal the deal within 90 days... I am not THAT good lol

mr.rugby

UK and Republic of Ireland allow you to hold dual nationality. Either UK or Irish nationality. I for one have both a UK passport, and an Irish passport. I was just wondering that if I were to do all my legality for applying to the US under my Irish passport would it make a difference. But as you say, it will not.

christmasoompa

Ah, I see. The way I read your post was that you thought you automatically got Irish citizenship if you applied for it, just because you are a UKC! So you are already dual nationality, which is good, but I don't think it will help you unless Ireland is eligible to take part in the DV Lottery?

lansbury

It is.

mr.rugby

Sorry apologies. It was the way I worded it.

Yeah the Republic of Ireland is eligible for DV lottery. I actually live in Northern Ireland, and although part of the UK, and unlike the rest of the UK is also eligible to apply for DV lottery too, for some reason? I was looking for more of a quick fix type thing, but after a bit of research I figured trying to get into the US was near an impossible feat, and you have made my nightmares come true lol

rpjs

The DV lottery is done by country of *birth*, irrespective of citizenship, and all of Ireland, Republic and NI qualifies. If you were born in NI then the DV lottery is a potential route for you.

mr.rugby

Born in Belfast... for my sins so i will take a look into that. is there much invovled in filling in the form, fees etc?

scrubbedexpat099

No fees, all on line.

Bob

Travel around is good advice, get a job else where in the EU where you don't need a visa is also good experience.

What do you hope to gain in the US? Any particular areas of interest? Best bet is a company transfer, so blag a job with M/S or Google perhaps and see if you can work a transfer in a few years down the line...

Any jobs requiring a security clearance is realistically a no go, generally won't get clearance worth much not being a USC and even then, you might still not get it.