Too late for Citizenship?
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Too late for Citizenship?
I recently came back to the UK due to my mother being unwell and decided it best that we start making plans to make the UK our permanent home. My Husband (US Citizen) came with me and has since gone back to the US and is in the process of applying for a UK visa. I am still in England, have rented a house and set up with the HRMC to help his application.
Unfortunately my return home was all very last minute and rushed so I wasn’t able to get citizenship before I left although I been a green card holder for 7 years. I realise that my green card will expire in a few months if I don’t return and I am wondering if it if worth returning to apply for citizenship. Is it possible I return and stay with his parents, apply for the citizenship, hang around for biometrics/interview and make sure I’m there when needed? This isn’t ideal I understand and I would just forget about it if it wasn’t for my husband. He’s worried if we ever have to move back to the US that we’ll have to wait a whole year to get a green card.
Thank you in advance.
Unfortunately my return home was all very last minute and rushed so I wasn’t able to get citizenship before I left although I been a green card holder for 7 years. I realise that my green card will expire in a few months if I don’t return and I am wondering if it if worth returning to apply for citizenship. Is it possible I return and stay with his parents, apply for the citizenship, hang around for biometrics/interview and make sure I’m there when needed? This isn’t ideal I understand and I would just forget about it if it wasn’t for my husband. He’s worried if we ever have to move back to the US that we’ll have to wait a whole year to get a green card.
Thank you in advance.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
I recently came back to the UK due to my mother being unwell and decided it best that we start making plans to make the UK our permanent home. My Husband (US Citizen) came with me and has since gone back to the US and is in the process of applying for a UK visa. I am still in England, have rented a house and set up with the HRMC to help his application.
Unfortunately my return home was all very last minute and rushed so I wasn’t able to get citizenship before I left although I been a green card holder for 7 years. I realise that my green card will expire in a few months if I don’t return and I am wondering if it if worth returning to apply for citizenship. Is it possible I return and stay with his parents, apply for the citizenship, hang around for biometrics/interview and make sure I’m there when needed? This isn’t ideal I understand and I would just forget about it if it wasn’t for my husband. He’s worried if we ever have to move back to the US that we’ll have to wait a whole year to get a green card.
Thank you in advance.
Unfortunately my return home was all very last minute and rushed so I wasn’t able to get citizenship before I left although I been a green card holder for 7 years. I realise that my green card will expire in a few months if I don’t return and I am wondering if it if worth returning to apply for citizenship. Is it possible I return and stay with his parents, apply for the citizenship, hang around for biometrics/interview and make sure I’m there when needed? This isn’t ideal I understand and I would just forget about it if it wasn’t for my husband. He’s worried if we ever have to move back to the US that we’ll have to wait a whole year to get a green card.
Thank you in advance.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
I left maybe 2.5 months ago so my green card and residency would still be active as it stands.
How do I prove i've been in that USCIS district? I guess my bank bills go to to my husbands parents house in Utah but I lived in another state briefly before we left America (just to complicate things!)
10 months seems like a long wait and I understand that I would need to be careful of trips out of the country while the citizenship application is being processed. Sounds like it's possible though. One question, if my husband receives his UK visa while my application is pending for US citizenship is that likely to affect my application? Idea idea how far into these things they may look?
How do I prove i've been in that USCIS district? I guess my bank bills go to to my husbands parents house in Utah but I lived in another state briefly before we left America (just to complicate things!)
10 months seems like a long wait and I understand that I would need to be careful of trips out of the country while the citizenship application is being processed. Sounds like it's possible though. One question, if my husband receives his UK visa while my application is pending for US citizenship is that likely to affect my application? Idea idea how far into these things they may look?
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
I left maybe 2.5 months ago so my green card and residency would still be active as it stands.
How do I prove i've been in that USCIS district? I guess my bank bills go to to my husbands parents house in Utah but I lived in another state briefly before we left America (just to complicate things!)
10 months seems like a long wait and I understand that I would need to be careful of trips out of the country while the citizenship application is being processed. Sounds like it's possible though. One question, if my husband receives his UK visa while my application is pending for US citizenship is that likely to affect my application? Idea idea how far into these things they may look?
How do I prove i've been in that USCIS district? I guess my bank bills go to to my husbands parents house in Utah but I lived in another state briefly before we left America (just to complicate things!)
10 months seems like a long wait and I understand that I would need to be careful of trips out of the country while the citizenship application is being processed. Sounds like it's possible though. One question, if my husband receives his UK visa while my application is pending for US citizenship is that likely to affect my application? Idea idea how far into these things they may look?
https://www.uscis.gov/ar-11
Assuming you are filling based on 5 years as a resident they look at 5 years residential addresses and 5 years work history.
I had to list all travel outside the US for 5 years, at the interview they ask you about additional travel since you submitted the N-400 and then they ask again at the ceremony. But unless you are at the boundary or take a trip longer than 6 months I am not sure they can deny you for travel. But moving outside the US and abandoning your PR would be an issue.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
You have to show that is where you currently reside and have done so.
I thought they were talking a ear or so on average I know it varies.
I thought they were talking a ear or so on average I know it varies.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
Any idea if my husband getting UK residency during my US citizenship process will affect my application? Is there any way they can know I am renting in the UK? I know this is backwards but but we intend to live in the UK for a few years ago least but will most likely return to the US in the future. I'm not sure there is much they can do about me leaving once I have citizenship so long as I file for taxes every year?
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Also, I kept my AR-11 address at my husbands parents house but we lived in different states over the years. Is that an issue?
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Any idea if my husband getting UK residency during my US citizenship process will affect my application?
Is there any way they can know I am renting in the UK?
I'm not sure there is much they can do about me leaving once I have citizenship so long as I file for taxes every year?
Also, I kept my AR-11 address at my husbands parents house but we lived in different states over the years. Is that an issue?
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If you are truly serious about naturalizing, then paid\\y the fee for a one time consultation with a qualified US immigration attorney. Write down all your questions before the consultation so you don't forget to ask sometime important. While the forum has many helpful people, a situation such as yours, someone who is no longer a resident of the US wanting to naturalize, is not sometime we normally see.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
I think there may be a reason we do not see it.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
https://immigrationlawnj.com/ar-11-f...gration-rules/
At least you won't have missed any mail from them if it went to an address where someone you knew lived in. But if you were to not relocate to the UK and remained resident in the US while waiting to become a US Citizen you would still have to submit 5 years of addresses which would not match your records at USCIS and/or your tax returns (which would have had your address in the state you were living in on them), and as others have noted you are sworn in before you interview and basically
you are asked to confirm all the detail on the form in your interview so all the discrepancies are likely to come up.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
IMHO, Yes. Simply stated if your husband obtains a UK spousal visa during your naturalization process and he moves to the UK, then it shows that you are no longer living in the US and have plans to be out of the country for a while.
If you are truly serious about naturalizing, then paid\\y the fee for a one time consultation with a qualified US immigration attorney. Write down all your questions before the consultation so you don't forget to ask sometime important. While the forum has many helpful people, a situation such as yours, someone who is no longer a resident of the US wanting to naturalize, is not sometime we normally see.
If you are truly serious about naturalizing, then paid\\y the fee for a one time consultation with a qualified US immigration attorney. Write down all your questions before the consultation so you don't forget to ask sometime important. While the forum has many helpful people, a situation such as yours, someone who is no longer a resident of the US wanting to naturalize, is not sometime we normally see.
You are right though, I think I will call an immigration attorney to see what they advise. I understand the situation isn't ideal!
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
Reading things like this indicate it can be an issue, before the online system was available I sent mine by Fedex so I would have proof of sending / delivery.
https://immigrationlawnj.com/ar-11-f...gration-rules/
At least you won't have missed any mail from them if it went to an address where someone you knew lived in. But if you were to not relocate to the UK and remained resident in the US while waiting to become a US Citizen you would still have to submit 5 years of addresses which would not match your records at USCIS and/or your tax returns (which would have had your address in the state you were living in on them), and as others have noted you are sworn in before you interview and basically
you are asked to confirm all the detail on the form in your interview so all the discrepancies are likely to come up.
https://immigrationlawnj.com/ar-11-f...gration-rules/
At least you won't have missed any mail from them if it went to an address where someone you knew lived in. But if you were to not relocate to the UK and remained resident in the US while waiting to become a US Citizen you would still have to submit 5 years of addresses which would not match your records at USCIS and/or your tax returns (which would have had your address in the state you were living in on them), and as others have noted you are sworn in before you interview and basically
you are asked to confirm all the detail on the form in your interview so all the discrepancies are likely to come up.
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Re: Too late for Citizenship?
What about passport control? Another avenue of discovery.