rrv problem again
Oct 24th 2004 | 6:04 am
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rrv problem again
Hi hope someone can help answer our question.
We lived in Australia but returned to the uk due to personal reasons, we (thanks to the help from the helpful people on this site) now have our RRV's and were making plans to return to Australia very soon, with one slight problem, I have just found out i'm pregnant and although it would make more sense to have the baby in Australia I am torn as i would much rather have him/her here in the UK so i would have family support for the first few months (I had a very bad birth on my last child), so to my question, what problems will we encounter getting our new babby an RRV? is it straight forward, a form and a fee? or is it going to be a nightmare???
Thank you in advance
We lived in Australia but returned to the uk due to personal reasons, we (thanks to the help from the helpful people on this site) now have our RRV's and were making plans to return to Australia very soon, with one slight problem, I have just found out i'm pregnant and although it would make more sense to have the baby in Australia I am torn as i would much rather have him/her here in the UK so i would have family support for the first few months (I had a very bad birth on my last child), so to my question, what problems will we encounter getting our new babby an RRV? is it straight forward, a form and a fee? or is it going to be a nightmare???
Thank you in advance
Oct 24th 2004 | 6:52 am
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Re: rrv problem again
Originally Posted by sandypandy2000
Hi hope someone can help answer our question.
We lived in Australia but returned to the uk due to personal reasons, we (thanks to the help from the helpful people on this site) now have our RRV's and were making plans to return to Australia very soon, with one slight problem, I have just found out i'm pregnant and although it would make more sense to have the baby in Australia I am torn as i would much rather have him/her here in the UK so i would have family support for the first few months (I had a very bad birth on my last child), so to my question, what problems will we encounter getting our new babby an RRV? is it straight forward, a form and a fee? or is it going to be a nightmare???
Thank you in advance
We lived in Australia but returned to the uk due to personal reasons, we (thanks to the help from the helpful people on this site) now have our RRV's and were making plans to return to Australia very soon, with one slight problem, I have just found out i'm pregnant and although it would make more sense to have the baby in Australia I am torn as i would much rather have him/her here in the UK so i would have family support for the first few months (I had a very bad birth on my last child), so to my question, what problems will we encounter getting our new babby an RRV? is it straight forward, a form and a fee? or is it going to be a nightmare???
Thank you in advance
I'm sorry I can't help (I'm in the USA) but I'm sure that the moderator JAJ will be along soon to advise!
Hope all goes well with your happy event!
Oct 24th 2004 | 8:03 am
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Re: rrv problem again
Hi sandy pandy
exactly the reason we left Oz to return to UK - to have our 1st baby with a bit of family support. (And am sooo thankful we made that decision....family were brilliant) Dont know the answer to your RRV problem, I'm afraid, but just wanted to wish you luck with the baby.
As EM says, JAJ is the best bet.
Our situation is slightly different to yours in that our PRs have not yet expired so we will be returning to Oz on our original 5-year PR visa. However, we do have to sponsor the baby for migration as she does not autmotaically have any residency rights as she was born in the UK. It will cost us something in the region of 500GBP for her visa app (then probably medicals on top of that).
Regards
HP
exactly the reason we left Oz to return to UK - to have our 1st baby with a bit of family support. (And am sooo thankful we made that decision....family were brilliant) Dont know the answer to your RRV problem, I'm afraid, but just wanted to wish you luck with the baby.
As EM says, JAJ is the best bet.
Our situation is slightly different to yours in that our PRs have not yet expired so we will be returning to Oz on our original 5-year PR visa. However, we do have to sponsor the baby for migration as she does not autmotaically have any residency rights as she was born in the UK. It will cost us something in the region of 500GBP for her visa app (then probably medicals on top of that).
Regards
HP
Oct 29th 2004 | 8:52 pm
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Re: rrv problem again
Originally Posted by sandypandy2000
Hi hope someone can help answer our question.
We lived in Australia but returned to the uk due to personal reasons, we (thanks to the help from the helpful people on this site) now have our RRV's and were making plans to return to Australia very soon, with one slight problem, I have just found out i'm pregnant and although it would make more sense to have the baby in Australia I am torn as i would much rather have him/her here in the UK so i would have family support for the first few months (I had a very bad birth on my last child), so to my question, what problems will we encounter getting our new babby an RRV? is it straight forward, a form and a fee? or is it going to be a nightmare???
Thank you in advance
We lived in Australia but returned to the uk due to personal reasons, we (thanks to the help from the helpful people on this site) now have our RRV's and were making plans to return to Australia very soon, with one slight problem, I have just found out i'm pregnant and although it would make more sense to have the baby in Australia I am torn as i would much rather have him/her here in the UK so i would have family support for the first few months (I had a very bad birth on my last child), so to my question, what problems will we encounter getting our new babby an RRV? is it straight forward, a form and a fee? or is it going to be a nightmare???
Thank you in advance
You'll need to do a full migration application for the baby - read the information on Dependent Child migration at the DIMIA site and AHC London website. This will require a form, full fee, medical for baby plus supporting evidence.
Alternatively if you have the baby born in Australia it will be an Australian citizen automatically and will not need any visa.
Is it possible for your parents to come to Australia around the time of the birth?
You may know this by now, but if you had taken Australian citizenship you would not have this problem - overseas born children of naturalised Australians can easily be registered as Australian citizens by descent. Children of PR visa holders cannot and need to be sponsored for migration if born overseas.
If the child is born in Australia it will also most likely be a British citizen by descent automatically, or at least eligible for registration unless unusual circumstances exist.
It will certainly be British by descent if one of you was born/naturalised in the UK and you're legally married - if not the situation gets a little more complex and there's not much point in explaining it if it doesn't apply. It's generally a good idea to apply for a British passport for an Australia born child as soon as possible so as to document its status. If an application for registration is required there may be a time limit, so it's important to be completely sure about the child's status and not make assumptions.
Jeremy
Oct 31st 2004 | 2:13 am
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Re: rrv problem again
Thanks Jeremy and everyone for your help and advice, I think we can safely say that this baby will be born in Australia, I don't know what we would have done if it wasn't for the help we have been given on this site, it is VERY much appreciated.
Take care all and best of luck in whatever path you all take.
Sandy and family
Take care all and best of luck in whatever path you all take.
Sandy and family
Originally Posted by JAJ
If your baby is born in the UK you will not be able to get it an RRV. There is no such thing as 'RRV by descent'.evidence.
Alternatively if you have the baby born in Australia it will be an Australian citizen automatically and will not need any visa.
You'll need to do a full migration application for the baby - read the information on Dependent Child migration at the DIMIA site and AHC London website. This will require a form, full fee, medical for baby plus supporting
Is it possible for your parents to come to Australia around the time of the birth?
You may know this by now, but if you had taken Australian citizenship you would not have this problem - overseas born children of naturalised Australians can easily be registered as Australian citizens by descent. Children of PR visa holders cannot and need to be sponsored for migration if born overseas.
If the child is born in Australia it will also most likely be a British citizen by descent automatically, or at least eligible for registration unless unusual circumstances exist.
It will certainly be British by descent if one of you was born/naturalised in the UK and you're legally married - if not the situation gets a little more complex and there's not much point in explaining it if it doesn't apply. It's generally a good idea to apply for a British passport for an Australia born child as soon as possible so as to document its status. If an application for registration is required there may be a time limit, so it's important to be completely sure about the child's status and not make assumptions.
Jeremy
Alternatively if you have the baby born in Australia it will be an Australian citizen automatically and will not need any visa.
You'll need to do a full migration application for the baby - read the information on Dependent Child migration at the DIMIA site and AHC London website. This will require a form, full fee, medical for baby plus supporting
Is it possible for your parents to come to Australia around the time of the birth?
You may know this by now, but if you had taken Australian citizenship you would not have this problem - overseas born children of naturalised Australians can easily be registered as Australian citizens by descent. Children of PR visa holders cannot and need to be sponsored for migration if born overseas.
If the child is born in Australia it will also most likely be a British citizen by descent automatically, or at least eligible for registration unless unusual circumstances exist.
It will certainly be British by descent if one of you was born/naturalised in the UK and you're legally married - if not the situation gets a little more complex and there's not much point in explaining it if it doesn't apply. It's generally a good idea to apply for a British passport for an Australia born child as soon as possible so as to document its status. If an application for registration is required there may be a time limit, so it's important to be completely sure about the child's status and not make assumptions.
Jeremy
Nov 2nd 2004 | 11:55 am
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Re: rrv problem again
Just a thought, im not sure if it applies to RRV's but you may want to check that when pregnant you can actually come back to Australia, as i know when we came out in 92 on our PR visa, it stated that only myself and my mum could come to Aus and that you were not allowed to get pregnant before arriving in OZ?
I mean if you are not showing yet, so to speak then you should be fine, but if heavily pregnant they may question you when you arrive in oz.. maybe worth checking?
I mean if you are not showing yet, so to speak then you should be fine, but if heavily pregnant they may question you when you arrive in oz.. maybe worth checking?
Nov 2nd 2004 | 12:04 pm
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Re: rrv problem again
Originally Posted by Aqua2778
Just a thought, im not sure if it applies to RRV's but you may want to check that when pregnant you can actually come back to Australia, as i know when we came out in 92 on our PR visa, it stated that only myself and my mum could come to Aus and that you were not allowed to get pregnant before arriving in OZ?
I mean if you are not showing yet, so to speak then you should be fine, but if heavily pregnant they may question you when you arrive in oz.. maybe worth checking?
I mean if you are not showing yet, so to speak then you should be fine, but if heavily pregnant they may question you when you arrive in oz.. maybe worth checking?
Secondly even for those with migrant visas, it seems that DIMIA are not too concerned about unborn children. There is definitely nothing to prevent people who have become pregnant after visa grant from travelling to Australia to give birth.
However - anyone in the position needs to bear in mind that women over 6 months pregnant may not be allowed to travel by the airlines.
Jeremy
