Irene Ireny

We received a request for more evidence yesterday and that upset both
of us. We thought we prepared the best package we could, phone bills,
hotel receipt, plane tickets, iteneraires, boarding passes and photos.

There are two things they request.
1. The circumstances that we met
2. Passports stamps for both of us

For Item #1, my bf explained we met in person in 11 different times in
the past and he thought thats enough. Apparently, its not. Shall we
provide more personal information?? What should we provide

For item#2, my bf sent his birth certificate copy and thats how he
travelled to Canada to visit me and since they were asking for passport
or birth cert. so that what he did. For myself, according to
visajourney.com, I do not need to provide my passport and so I did not.
Now they are asking for the stamps and I travelled with my Canadian
citizenship card in the past and in one or two occasions I did use my
passports but the US custom did not stamp on it. So what should I send
them?

Can anyone help??

Thanks

Noorah101

Hi Irene,

For Item #1, I would send them a paragraph describing the circumstances of how you met each other. Not the number of times, but how you met.

For Item #2, I would send them a paragraph stating just what you described here. That seems to be the best explanation of why you don't have passport stamps.

Best Wishes,
Rene

Rete

Just saying you have met 11 different times over the last x number years is not sufficient. The CIS needs "proof" that you have met in person at least once during the last two years. This is often in form of the stamp in a passport given when entering a foreign country. Of course, this is not the case in traveling to and from Canada and you will have to explain this in a letter to them. Do either of you have hotel bills from when you visited one another? Perhaps photographs of you together with other people and you can have that person complete a letter stating their identification and the time and authenticity of the photo?

MDUdall

    >For myself, according to visajourney.com, I do not need to provide my passport and so I did not. Now they are asking for the stamps and I travelled with my Canadian
citizenship card in the past and in one or two occasions I did use my
passports but the US custom did not stamp on it. So what should I send

them?

That helps explain it. I don't want to sound too harsh, but I've
noticed for quite a while now that there seems to be a
disproportionably high number of RFEs reported by people who use that
site as the source of their immigration information. I've been
participating in the usenet forum for years and I participated in VJ
for a couple of years (more or less) and its obvious to me that there
is something wrong over there that is leading to an unusually high
number of RFEs in their members important cases.

As for the guide and what you reported it says, I take the exact
opposite approach and I always submit the international fiancee's
passport pages. I don't limit my submissions to the bare bones
instructions that come with the forms and instead tailor the evidence
according to my client's unique facts/situation. Following a "one size
fits all" guide is a completely different (and risky) approach. To
simply follow the instructions and limit the submission to what an
instruction set, or "guide" says, in my opinion, greatly increases the
odds of receiving an RFE. Sorry you had to find that out the hard way
and good luck with the rest of your case.

Mh

In article <[email protected]. com>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
    >We received a request for more evidence yesterday and that upset both
    >of us. We thought we prepared the best package we could, phone bills,
    >hotel receipt, plane tickets, iteneraires, boarding passes and photos.
    >There are two things they request.
    >1. The circumstances that we met
    >2. Passports stamps for both of us
    >For Item #1, my bf explained we met in person in 11 different times in
    >the past and he thought thats enough. Apparently, its not. Shall we
    >provide more personal information?? What should we provide
    >For item#2, my bf sent his birth certificate copy and thats how he
    >travelled to Canada to visit me and since they were asking for passport
    >or birth cert. so that what he did. For myself, according to
    >visajourney.com, I do not need to provide my passport and so I did not.
    > Now they are asking for the stamps and I travelled with my Canadian
    >citizenship card in the past and in one or two occasions I did use my
    >passports but the US custom did not stamp on it. So what should I send
    >them?
    >Can anyone help??

I was in a similar boat - we got an RFE for #1. Of course, they messed up on
the dates - we applied Oct 15, 2003, and they said "Evidence of meeting in
person between Oct 15, 2003 and Oct 15, 2005" - two years into the future
    :-)

And maybe, they also asked for #2, not sure anymore. If they did, for #2, we
just copied everything.

For #1, we had both my dad (mom was on a trip at the time) and her parents
sign an affidavit (one each, so two separate affidavits, in case that
wasn't clear :-) that they had witnessed us meeting in person at their
home(s) during date(s) AA-BB and CC-DD, respectively (i.e. my dad when she
visited Ontario, her parents when I visited California).

That seemed to do the trick. A local legal firm even witnessed my dad's
affidavit for free.

MH

Folinskyinla

Hey Matt:

Given this is the marriage based visa NG, what has happened to the "banns"?

Pun is intended. You forgot to mention the "don't fight City Hall" rubric.

nyjetsfan1996

I was a member over there back then and I recall that you were a member
for only a few months (4-5) before you were issued a lifetime ban from
that site because so many members there were upset at you for your
behavior including me and my wife who was also a member at that time
(you are probably banned on British Expats right now for many of the
same reasons but I do not feel like reading all the info on
BritishExpats to find out why). I am not sure how you say you
participated there for a "couple years" -- even I was not there that
long. I remember being one of the members there who voted in a poll
about you being banned. With that info I am sure people can take
things you say with a grain of salt.

That is all I have to say :). Back to shoveling snow!

MDUdall wrote:
    > >For myself, according to visajourney.com, I do not need to provide my passport and so I did not. Now they are asking for the stamps and I travelled with my Canadian
    > citizenship card in the past and in one or two occasions I did use my
    > passports but the US custom did not stamp on it. So what should I send
    > them?
    > That helps explain it. I don't want to sound too harsh, but I've
    > noticed for quite a while now that there seems to be a
    > disproportionably high number of RFEs reported by people who use that
    > site as the source of their immigration information. I've been
    > participating in the usenet forum for years and I participated in VJ
    > for a couple of years (more or less) and its obvious to me that there
    > is something wrong over there that is leading to an unusually high
    > number of RFEs in their members important cases.
    > As for the guide and what you reported it says, I take the exact
    > opposite approach and I always submit the international fiancee's
    > passport pages. I don't limit my submissions to the bare bones
    > instructions that come with the forms and instead tailor the evidence
    > according to my client's unique facts/situation. Following a "one size
    > fits all" guide is a completely different (and risky) approach. To
    > simply follow the instructions and limit the submission to what an
    > instruction set, or "guide" says, in my opinion, greatly increases the
    > odds of receiving an RFE. Sorry you had to find that out the hard way
    > and good luck with the rest of your case.

Irene Ireny

You guys are so nice. The info you all provided are great. THanks so
much!

Irene Ireny

My sister will write a letter like this
Dear sirs,

I hereby witnessed my sister, XXXand her boyfriend XXX met in person at
my home during all his visit in Toronto. His visit was dated as
follows:
1. March 2004 to
2. 29 September to 4 October 2004
3. 26 December, 2004 to 2 January, 2005
4. 6 -15 May 2005
5. 3 -12 February, 2006

Your sincerely,




Do you think its good enough??

Folinskyinla

Hi:

Be nice. It has been made clear that the reasons for any ban are NOT to be discussed. Period. Reference has been made to a set of rules posted on the site. However, **I** have not been able to perceive the relationship between those rules and the standards for banning -- its been made clear that that will not be clarified and that happens to be MY problem.

It is MY problem and because of MY problem I now refrain from giving substantive answers on the NG.

However, I DO believe that the published rules are fine and dandy -- in fact, I chastised one poster for referring to the moderators as being "nutcases" -- definately not nice and something to be avoided.

Bob

photographs of you guys together would be good proof that you have met, that along with an explaination is usually enough.

Mh

In article <[email protected] .com>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
    >My sister will write a letter like this
    >Dear sirs,
    >I hereby witnessed my sister, XXXand her boyfriend XXX met in person at
    >my home during all his visit in Toronto. His visit was dated as
    >follows:
    >1. March 2004 to
    >2. 29 September to 4 October 2004
    >3. 26 December, 2004 to 2 January, 2005
    >4. 6 -15 May 2005
    >5. 3 -12 February, 2006
    >Your sincerely,
    >Do you think its good enough??

Hmm. I had a lawyer friend mail me a general affidavit outline, and I filled
in the appropriate information. I think I could dig it up at some point..

You do have to include some legal wording to make it a real affidavit. And
have it witnessed by a lawyer as she signs it.

MH

Irene Ireny

We already provided the photos of me and my bf together before I
received a RFE, but not my sister me and him togehter.....

Matthew Udall

Hi Jets Fan,
I don’t recall exactly how long I participated on that site, and that is why I put in the qualifier of “more or less”. Yes, I was banned from participating there, but I also know that there was a back channel smear campaign launched against me (and I’ve been apologized to by some who actually engaged in that activity and who told me all about it and the lies they spread and the reason this was done) with many lies about what actually happened (and I’m sure many who voted in the poll were laboring under these falsehoods). I’m not going to rehash all that here as there is no point, but suffice it to say that what many were told was simply not true and was meant to divert attention from the dangerous activity going on there by focusing attention on to a big bad attorney ;-). I’ve noticed another attorney once participated there, and apparently they drove him away as well. But I hold no hard feelings about any of that.

And regardless of my ban from there and the reasons for it, that is irrelevant to the fact that someone in this thread said they relied on a “one size fits all” guide on that site, and they did so to their detriment.

Folinskyinla

Hi Irene:

Unfortunately, this happens. It is most irritating. Don't fight City Hall -- give them what they ask for even if you gave it to them before. If you don't have something -- tell them that. Maybe give them something else.

"Keep you eye on the prize" -- you want an approval and you won't get it until you respond to the RFE.