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Old Jan 14th 2006, 5:32 am
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As instructed by meauxna I am starting a new thread:

Is police clearance needed in order to AOS from VWP?
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
As instructed by meauxna I am starting a new thread:

Is police clearance needed in order to AOS from VWP?
Everything I've read indicates that AOS from other visa/visa-free types do not require a police check from the home country.
Of course, since we went on a visa route that did not require Adjustment of Status, I can't say from personal experience.
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
As instructed by meauxna I am starting a new thread:

Is police clearance needed in order to AOS from VWP?
I don't know from personal experience, just what several others told me the other day in THIS THREAD -- start with post #8.

My suggestion would be to consult with a good immigration attorney to be sure you're getting the right information.

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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
I don't know from personal experience, just what several others told me the other day in THIS THREAD -- start with post #8.

My suggestion would be to consult with a good immigration attorney to be sure you're getting the right information.

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Thanks that is interesting but the thread seems to be saying that police clearance isn't required for AOS not specifically AOS from VWP. Whereas my AOS interview letter specifically requested police clearance be brought with me to interview.

I don't think I'll bother with the expense of consulting an attorney for the sake of idle curiosity. I'm not going to be acting on the advice. Just as well since it appears to be conflicting.
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Thanks that is interesting but the thread seems to be saying that police clearance isn't required for AOS not specifically AOS from VWP. Whereas my AOS interview letter specifically requested police clearance be brought with me to interview.

I don't think I'll bother with the expense of consulting an attorney for the sake of idle curiosity. I'm not going to be acting on the advice. Just as well since it appears to be conflicting.
It could be, as it is with many things, that there is a different policy in your office, compared to other offices. I don't know why AOS from the VWP would be coded differently, or have different requirements than any other AOS.
AOS is AOS is AOS.

What is it exactly that your letter says?
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Originally Posted by meauxna
It could be, as it is with many things, that there is a different policy in your office, compared to other offices.
I wasn't aware that different offices sent out different interview letters. Is that the case?

I don't know why AOS from the VWP would be coded differently, or have different requirements than any other AOS.
AOS is AOS is AOS.
My thoughts exactly.

What is it exactly that your letter says?
If you have ever been arrested, bring the related Police Report and the original or certified Final Court Disposition for each arrest, even if the charges have been dismissed or expunged. If no court record is available, bring a letter from the court with jurisdiction indicating this.
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If you have ever been arrested, bring the related Police Report and the original or certified Final Court Disposition for each arrest, even if the charges have been dismissed or expunged. If no court record is available, bring a letter from the court with jurisdiction indicating this.
Well there is a clear difference right there.
"If you have ever been arrested"

From the way your posts were worded, it read as if you were referring to the Police Certificate that visa applicants are (mostly) required to order.

This is asking for the disposition on any arrests.
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
If you have ever been arrested, bring the related Police Report and the original or certified Final Court Disposition for each arrest, even if the charges have been dismissed or expunged. If no court record is available, bring a letter from the court with jurisdiction indicating this.
But if you don't have a conviction you must bring a letter indicating that there is no record of you having a conviction?
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
But if you don't have a conviction you must bring a letter indicating that there is no record of you having a conviction?
That's what it says.

What's in question?
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Default Re: Police Certificate Needed to AOS from VWP?

Originally Posted by meauxna
That's what it says.

What's in question?
There are several posts including your own stating that a Police Certificate is not required in order to AOS.

How else would you satisfy the evidence they are asking for in the interview letter?
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
There are several posts including your own stating that a Police Certificate is not required in order to AOS.

How else would you satisfy the evidence they are asking for in the interview letter?
From the way your posts were worded, it read as if you were referring to the Police Certificate that visa applicants are (mostly) required to order.

This is asking for the disposition on any arrests.

Edit to add: Apparently it needs clarifying that one should bring to an interview everything requested.
And, that your whole line of questions tonight seems argumentative for no good reason.
Unless you'd care to share the reason so I can decide if it's a good reason or not.

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Default Re: Police Certificate Needed to AOS from VWP?

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From the way your posts were worded, it read as if you were referring to the Police Certificate that visa applicants are (mostly) required to order.

This is asking for the disposition on any arrests.



How is that different?

Edit to add: Apparently it needs clarifying that one should bring to an interview everything requested.
And, that your whole line of questions tonight seems argumentative for no good reason.
Unless you'd care to share the reason so I can decide if it's a good reason or not.
I'm sorry but I think that's uncalled for. It seems to have been sparked by my questioning on another thread. You suggested I start another thread which I did.

I have read threads whereby you and other posters are stating that a Police Certificate is not required. I have an interview letter that requests something, you at least, were not aware of. To my mind a Police Certificate would be required to satisfy that requirement. Since the letter also asks for a letter indicating that you have no court record then in the UK at least a Police Certificate would be the only way of proving this.

As far as I am concerned it is a legitimate query that needs clarifying, reason enough I should think.
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I adjusted after an overstay on the VWP and even though my interview letter requested a police record I did not provide one and was not questioned on it. I would think the main issue here would be how long you have been in the US on the VWP. Due to my overstay a home country police record was not possible and the FBI checks I would presume would turn up any serious records in the absence of presenting a police record.
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
I have read threads whereby you and other posters are stating that a Police Certificate is not required. I have an interview letter that requests something, you at least, were not aware of. To my mind a Police Certificate would be required to satisfy that requirement. Since the letter also asks for a letter indicating that you have no court record then in the UK at least a Police Certificate would be the only way of proving this.

As far as I am concerned it is a legitimate query that needs clarifying, reason enough I should think.
Perhaps it is a problem of definition WRT "Police Certificate" because I do not agree that a Police Certificate (that you would order for a visa application) is the same thing you would use to show the disposition of your arrest. I base that on reports from other users who had arrests w/o conviction and whose Police Certificate came back clear (no arrests/no convictions). The people were required to get a separate letter from the court in addition to their Police Certificate.

From your interview letter:
"bring a letter from the court with jurisdiction indicating this."

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I adjusted after an overstay on the VWP and even though my interview letter requested a police record I did not provide one and was not questioned on it. I would think the main issue here would be how long you have been in the US on the VWP. Due to my overstay a home country police record was not possible and the FBI checks I would presume would turn up any serious records in the absence of presenting a police record.
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Did your interview letter request a Police Certificate in general, or the language was similar to CB's, with the "If you have been arrested"?
And, if you don't mind sharing, would you have fallen under that stipulation? And if you did, the interviewing officer did not ask, or mention it (clarifying what you said happened in your interview).
Sorry I can't hang out to chat; I'll check in in the morning.
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