Passport for Alien
Apr 24th 2003, 4:07 am
#1
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Passport for Alien
I would apologize if my question is not appropriate because it's about
Passport, not Visa.
I have a friend who doesn't know much of anything about the procedures
etc...... She is about 80 years old and depends on others to do for her. She
sometimes paid others to do it for her. Many people have been doing her
passport for her in the last two years. None of them came out. She once
received an official notice from somewhere that they have received her
application.
Now, I want to follow up or redo everything. Unfortunately, I was told that
her passport cannot be processed as American citizens. She is just a legal
resident.
Can I help her obtaining her passport so she can go to visit her daughter in
her native country?
If so, which part of government is dealing with this thing.
Thanks
Passport, not Visa.
I have a friend who doesn't know much of anything about the procedures
etc...... She is about 80 years old and depends on others to do for her. She
sometimes paid others to do it for her. Many people have been doing her
passport for her in the last two years. None of them came out. She once
received an official notice from somewhere that they have received her
application.
Now, I want to follow up or redo everything. Unfortunately, I was told that
her passport cannot be processed as American citizens. She is just a legal
resident.
Can I help her obtaining her passport so she can go to visit her daughter in
her native country?
If so, which part of government is dealing with this thing.
Thanks
Apr 24th 2003, 6:30 am
#2
Howling at the Moon
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Which country is she from (or a Citizen of) ? You usually apply to the Consulate/Embassy of your country in the US which handles passports.
Apr 24th 2003, 12:10 pm
#3
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Re: Passport for Alien
If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native country is
handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country. Yellow
pages...
This story sounds like she is not following through with the consular
advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give all
the information.
handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country. Yellow
pages...
This story sounds like she is not following through with the consular
advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give all
the information.
Apr 24th 2003, 7:35 pm
#4
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Re: Passport for Alien
Thanks for the advice.
She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the United States
of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other countries but
USA.
Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
Thanks again.
"alzerom" wrote in message
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> If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native country is
> handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country. Yellow
> pages...
> This story sounds like she is not following through with the consular
> advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give all
> the information.
She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the United States
of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other countries but
USA.
Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
Thanks again.
"alzerom" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native country is
> handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country. Yellow
> pages...
> This story sounds like she is not following through with the consular
> advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give all
> the information.
Apr 24th 2003, 8:37 pm
#5
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Re: Passport for Alien
If she is only a permanent resident and not a US Citizen she is not entitled to a US Passport and must get a Cambodian passport.
She can apply for it at the Cambodian Consulate in Washington, D.C.
Rete
She can apply for it at the Cambodian Consulate in Washington, D.C.
Rete
Originally posted by Calderon
Thanks for the advice.
She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the United States
of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other countries but
USA.
Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the advice.
She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the United States
of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other countries but
USA.
Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
Thanks again.
Apr 24th 2003, 8:40 pm
#6
Howling at the Moon
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Re: Passport for Alien
Originally posted by Calderon
Thanks for the advice.
She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the United States
of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other countries but
USA.
Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
Thanks again.
"alzerom" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native country is
> handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country. Yellow
> pages...
> This story sounds like she is not following through with the consular
> advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give all
> the information.
Thanks for the advice.
She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the United States
of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other countries but
USA.
Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
Thanks again.
"alzerom" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native country is
> handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country. Yellow
> pages...
> This story sounds like she is not following through with the consular
> advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give all
> the information.
http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport in the US.
Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
Q4. I am a Cambodian citizen who is a permanent resident of the US. How do I travel outside the US if I do not have a passport?
A4. You will need to obtain from the US Immigration and Naturalization Services a passport like document that allows you to leave the country for six month without losing your residency status in the US. Please contact the INS.
Perhaps the 'passport like document' is similar to that issued to refugees as a "refugee travel document" ?
If the lady you speak of would be interested in becoming a US Citizen is she aware that she would be able to retain her Cambodian Citizenship also ? Could make things easier in the future.
I'll see what I can find out but the BCIS webpage states the following :-
"What is a Travel Document and Who Needs One?
If you are not a U.S. citizen, you may need permission to return to the United States after traveling abroad. This permission is granted through a travel document. Travel documents are also given to people who want to travel, but cannot get a passport from their country of nationality. See the below listed items for more information:"
Which would seem to apply. If so an I-131 would need to be filed for a travel document stating the reasons why the applicant is unable to obtain a passport from their home country in order to travel.
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...avdoc.htm#file
I'm by no means certain of any of this but figured it was a start ?
Apr 24th 2003, 8:42 pm
#7
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Re: Passport for Alien
Originally posted by Rete
If she is only a permanent resident and not a US Citizen she is not entitled to a US Passport and must get a Cambodian passport.
She can apply for it at the Cambodian Consulate in Washington, D.C.
Rete
If she is only a permanent resident and not a US Citizen she is not entitled to a US Passport and must get a Cambodian passport.
She can apply for it at the Cambodian Consulate in Washington, D.C.
Rete
I thought that too until I checked. Only the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh can issue passports.
Apr 25th 2003, 12:37 am
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Re: Passport for Alien
lairdside wrote:
> http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
>
> You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport
> in the US.
>
> Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
> A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained
> in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
Is it possible for a Cambodian to apply remotely for a new passport, or
do they actually have to go to Phnom Penh?
> http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
>
> You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport
> in the US.
>
> Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
> A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained
> in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
Is it possible for a Cambodian to apply remotely for a new passport, or
do they actually have to go to Phnom Penh?
Apr 25th 2003, 1:35 am
#9
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Re: Passport for Alien
Originally posted by Mrtravel
lairdside wrote:
> http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
>
> You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport
> in the US.
>
> Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
> A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained
> in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
Is it possible for a Cambodian to apply remotely for a new passport, or
do they actually have to go to Phnom Penh?
lairdside wrote:
> http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
>
> You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport
> in the US.
>
> Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
> A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained
> in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
Is it possible for a Cambodian to apply remotely for a new passport, or
do they actually have to go to Phnom Penh?
The info from The Cambodian Consulate says that PR's of the US have to get a travel document from the BCIS.
Last edited by lairdside; Apr 25th 2003 at 1:37 am.
Apr 25th 2003, 2:06 am
#10
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Posts: 46,393
Re: Passport for Alien
Originally posted by lairdside
She can't - they can only extend passports. Not issue them
I thought that too until I checked. Only the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh can issue passports.
She can't - they can only extend passports. Not issue them
I thought that too until I checked. Only the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh can issue passports.
Rete
Apr 25th 2003, 2:36 am
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Re: Passport for Alien
I have tried to convince her to get her US citizenship. We know that it
should not be hard for her.
Unfortunately, she has her own opinion about it.
"lairdside" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by Calderon
> > Thanks for the advice.
> > She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the
> > United States
> > of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other
> > countries but
> > USA.
> > Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > "alzerom" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]"]news:491b-
> > [email protected][/url]...
> > > If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native
> > country is
> > > handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country.
> > Yellow
> > > pages...
> > > This story sounds like she is not following through with the
> > consular
> > > advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give
> > all
> > > the information.
> Look here :-
> http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
> You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport
> in the US.
> Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
> A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained
> in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
> Q4. I am a Cambodian citizen who is a permanent resident of the US.
> How do I travel outside the US if I do not have a passport?
> A4. You will need to obtain from the US Immigration and Naturalization
> Services a passport like document that allows you to leave the
> country for six month without losing your residency status in the
> US. Please contact the INS.
> Perhaps the 'passport like document' is similar to that issued to
> refugees as a "refugee travel document" ?
> If the lady you speak of would be interested in becoming a US Citizen is
> she aware that she would be able to retain her Cambodian Citizenship
> also ? Could make things easier in the future.
> I'll see what I can find out but the BCIS webpage states the
> following :-
> "What is a Travel Document and Who Needs One?
> If you are not a U.S. citizen, you may need permission to return to the
> United States after traveling abroad. This permission is granted through
> a travel document. Travel documents are also given to people who want to
> travel, but cannot get a passport from their country of nationality. See
> the below listed items for more information:"
> Which would seem to apply. If so an I-131 would need to be filed for a
> travel document stating the reasons why the applicant is unable to
> obtain a passport from their home country in order to travel.
> http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...avdoc.htm#file
> I'm by no means certain of any of this but figured it was a start ?
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
should not be hard for her.
Unfortunately, she has her own opinion about it.
"lairdside" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Originally posted by Calderon
> > Thanks for the advice.
> > She is from Cambodia. Now, she is a permanent residence of the
> > United States
> > of America. I don't think her passport is or was done by other
> > countries but
> > USA.
> > Perhaps, I didn't clarify it enough.
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > "alzerom" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]"]news:491b-
> > [email protected][/url]...
> > > If she is not a US Citizen then the passport of the native
> > country is
> > > handled by the Embassy/consulate of that native country.
> > Yellow
> > > pages...
> > > This story sounds like she is not following through with the
> > consular
> > > advice, such as: "pick it up in person"... etc. You didn't give
> > all
> > > the information.
> Look here :-
> http://www.embassy.org/cambodia/consular/
> You are correct in thinking that she cannot be issued a passport
> in the US.
> Q7. How do I get a new Cambodian passport or renew an old one?
> A7. The embassy can only extend passport. A new one can only be obtained
> in Cambodia at the Ministry of Interior in Phnom Penh.
> Q4. I am a Cambodian citizen who is a permanent resident of the US.
> How do I travel outside the US if I do not have a passport?
> A4. You will need to obtain from the US Immigration and Naturalization
> Services a passport like document that allows you to leave the
> country for six month without losing your residency status in the
> US. Please contact the INS.
> Perhaps the 'passport like document' is similar to that issued to
> refugees as a "refugee travel document" ?
> If the lady you speak of would be interested in becoming a US Citizen is
> she aware that she would be able to retain her Cambodian Citizenship
> also ? Could make things easier in the future.
> I'll see what I can find out but the BCIS webpage states the
> following :-
> "What is a Travel Document and Who Needs One?
> If you are not a U.S. citizen, you may need permission to return to the
> United States after traveling abroad. This permission is granted through
> a travel document. Travel documents are also given to people who want to
> travel, but cannot get a passport from their country of nationality. See
> the below listed items for more information:"
> Which would seem to apply. If so an I-131 would need to be filed for a
> travel document stating the reasons why the applicant is unable to
> obtain a passport from their home country in order to travel.
> http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/...avdoc.htm#file
> I'm by no means certain of any of this but figured it was a start ?
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Apr 25th 2003, 7:15 am
#12
Howling at the Moon
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Stubborn old ladies - gotta love 'em. ( I hope to be one one day).
If I find any more info I'll post it but at the moment unless anyone knows better filing an I-131 for a travel document looks like the best lead. Perhaps the BCIS could advise you ? ( If you can speak to anyone who makes any sense, I believe it does happen on occasion).
Speak to your Congressman's/Senator's aide dealing with immigration matters. They can liase with the BCIS for you and hopefully get a definitive answer out of them
If I find any more info I'll post it but at the moment unless anyone knows better filing an I-131 for a travel document looks like the best lead. Perhaps the BCIS could advise you ? ( If you can speak to anyone who makes any sense, I believe it does happen on occasion).
Speak to your Congressman's/Senator's aide dealing with immigration matters. They can liase with the BCIS for you and hopefully get a definitive answer out of them
Apr 25th 2003, 6:25 pm
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Re: Passport for Alien
lairdside wrote:
> Stubborn old ladies - gotta love 'em. ( I hope to be one one day).
>
> If I find any more info I'll post it but at the moment unless anyone
> knows better filing an I-131 for a travel document looks like the best
> lead. Perhaps the BCIS could advise you ? ( If you can speak to anyone
> who makes any sense, I believe it does happen on occasion).
>
> Speak to your Congressman's/Senator's aide dealing with immigration
> matters. They can liase with the BCIS for you and hopefully get a
> definitive answer out of them
I don't understand the issue. I-131 would be used if she was not able to
get a passport. It appears, in her case, that the only problem has been
the ability to properly apply for one. While the Cambodia Emnassy can't
give her a new passport, I don't think that would mean she can't get one
by going through them. She, or someone, should call the Embassy or
Consulate and ask them the procedure.
I don't seen an issue that needs the help of Congress, I think she just
needs to follow the procedures as instructed by her consulate/embassy,
Even if she filed I-131, there is no guarantee that it would get her
into Cambodia.
> Stubborn old ladies - gotta love 'em. ( I hope to be one one day).
>
> If I find any more info I'll post it but at the moment unless anyone
> knows better filing an I-131 for a travel document looks like the best
> lead. Perhaps the BCIS could advise you ? ( If you can speak to anyone
> who makes any sense, I believe it does happen on occasion).
>
> Speak to your Congressman's/Senator's aide dealing with immigration
> matters. They can liase with the BCIS for you and hopefully get a
> definitive answer out of them
I don't understand the issue. I-131 would be used if she was not able to
get a passport. It appears, in her case, that the only problem has been
the ability to properly apply for one. While the Cambodia Emnassy can't
give her a new passport, I don't think that would mean she can't get one
by going through them. She, or someone, should call the Embassy or
Consulate and ask them the procedure.
I don't seen an issue that needs the help of Congress, I think she just
needs to follow the procedures as instructed by her consulate/embassy,
Even if she filed I-131, there is no guarantee that it would get her
into Cambodia.
Apr 25th 2003, 6:48 pm
#14
Howling at the Moon
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: Incline Village, NV
Posts: 3,742
Re: Passport for Alien
Originally posted by Mrtravel
lairdside wrote:
> Stubborn old ladies - gotta love 'em. ( I hope to be one one day).
>
> If I find any more info I'll post it but at the moment unless anyone
> knows better filing an I-131 for a travel document looks like the best
> lead. Perhaps the BCIS could advise you ? ( If you can speak to anyone
> who makes any sense, I believe it does happen on occasion).
>
> Speak to your Congressman's/Senator's aide dealing with immigration
> matters. They can liase with the BCIS for you and hopefully get a
> definitive answer out of them
I don't understand the issue. I-131 would be used if she was not able to
get a passport. It appears, in her case, that the only problem has been
the ability to properly apply for one. While the Cambodia Emnassy can't
give her a new passport, I don't think that would mean she can't get one
by going through them. She, or someone, should call the Embassy or
Consulate and ask them the procedure.
I don't seen an issue that needs the help of Congress, I think she just
needs to follow the procedures as instructed by her consulate/embassy,
Even if she filed I-131, there is no guarantee that it would get her
into Cambodia.
lairdside wrote:
> Stubborn old ladies - gotta love 'em. ( I hope to be one one day).
>
> If I find any more info I'll post it but at the moment unless anyone
> knows better filing an I-131 for a travel document looks like the best
> lead. Perhaps the BCIS could advise you ? ( If you can speak to anyone
> who makes any sense, I believe it does happen on occasion).
>
> Speak to your Congressman's/Senator's aide dealing with immigration
> matters. They can liase with the BCIS for you and hopefully get a
> definitive answer out of them
I don't understand the issue. I-131 would be used if she was not able to
get a passport. It appears, in her case, that the only problem has been
the ability to properly apply for one. While the Cambodia Emnassy can't
give her a new passport, I don't think that would mean she can't get one
by going through them. She, or someone, should call the Embassy or
Consulate and ask them the procedure.
I don't seen an issue that needs the help of Congress, I think she just
needs to follow the procedures as instructed by her consulate/embassy,
Even if she filed I-131, there is no guarantee that it would get her
into Cambodia.
Q4. I am a Cambodian citizen who is a permanent resident of the US. How do I travel outside the US if I do not have a passport?
A4. You will need to obtain from the US Immigration and Naturalization Services a passport like document that allows you to leave the country for six month without losing your residency status in the US. Please contact the INS.
The reason I suggested Congresional services may help was if she got caught up in the " you need to go to them - no, you need to go to them" loop..... ie. The Consulate say she needs to see the BCIS and vice versa. Congressional aides are sometimes able to speak to someone at the BCIS who actually knows what they are talking about when the rest of us are having difficulty in doing so.
Last edited by lairdside; Apr 25th 2003 at 6:52 pm.
Apr 25th 2003, 11:29 pm
#15
Howling at the Moon
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: Incline Village, NV
Posts: 3,742
Re: Passport for Alien
Originally posted by Mrtravel
Even if she filed I-131, there is no guarantee that it would get her
into Cambodia.
Even if she filed I-131, there is no guarantee that it would get her
into Cambodia.
No it wouldn't she'd need a visa too.
I found a site that proports to be a travel agency the other day. They state that they can obtain visas for several countries and renewals/passports for Cambodia. I didn't post the details becuase I have no indication as to whether or not they are legitimate.
I'll email the Cambodian Consulate later and hopefully they will reply