ArrogantU2Fan

Amen brother....the operative word is intent I am calling my atty friend on monday Susan

Bob

We all know it happens, but if the intent is there, it is still visa fraud, and yes most people probably get away with it, but for those who don't, you generally don't hear there story do you.

And if you didn't have intent when using a non-immigrant visa, there isn't a problem, and someone that's over here for a long length of time, it is more believable than for someone to come over for a weeks holiday and then suddenly get married...not to say that it doesn't happen, but it does look more suspicious and the onus would be on you to prove that it was on the spare of the moment.

leedsPaddy

Well I had no intent of immigrating to the US because I had just started the procedures for my girlfriend to immigrate to the UK. It was only because I got her pregnant with my twins that we decided to swap roles.

ArrogantU2Fan

EXACTLY....I know sooooo many people that have done it!

andrea874

Okay well, I know plenty of people who commit other crimes - doesnt make me want to take on that role of doing illegal stuff and constantly having to look over my shoulder wondering if I'll get caught.

Bottom line: using a non-immigrant visa with the intent to immigrate = visa fraud.

I'm pretty sure no one cares here if you do it or not. The point is that its illegal and people are trying to help you avoid possible problems. Grow up and read what people are actually saying rather than trying to pick a fight.

Lupa

Hi everyone,

thanks for the replies. I know its not the smart way of doing it like I stated before, but I can't wait for all that processing to happen. Someone mocked all the "whiney lovers". Unless you experience true love, it is hell to be apart from your partner. He is a part of me and I can't go on and he can't go on being so unhappy for many more months. Many people just don't realise that happiness accounts for so much when it comes to living. At the moment without him, I'm not living...I'm simply existing and thats actually becoming physically unhealthy for me to do.

Thank you Paddy for your pm. I really appreciated you taking time to do it.

Lupa

andrea874

...considering this is a marriage based forum, I'm pretty sure every single person on here knows how it is to be in love

Hypertweeky

6-7 months to obtain a K1 visa VS being banned from the US for the rest of your life, oh yeah that's worth it..
Good Luck.

Noorah101

Hi Lupa,

My fiance and I waited, separated for 14 months until he got his K-1 visa in order to enter the USA, marry me, and remain here. It bothered us, for sure, but we survived. He continued his life in his country, I continued my life in my country, and we talked A LOT on the phone. In fact, it made us a stronger couple to have gone through that period together in spirit...and we got to see how the other person deals with some pressure. We didn't fall out of love, we didn't get physically or mentally ill from separation, and we've been a very happily married couple now for 1.5 years, here in the USA. I think you're underestimating yourselves by saying you can't live apart for another 6 months. Stress is just as bad as you make it. If you relax a bit, I'm pretty sure a 6-month separation won't be the end of the world.

I know it's very very hard, but just think of it this way...you're doing yourselves and your future a favor by doing this the right way. It would be worth it to me to wait 6 months, knowing after that it's clear sailing...rather than have to watch my back for the next several years. But, that's just me.

Rene

Noorah101

Hi leeds,

There you go, you said it yourself. You had no intent of immigrating to the USA, so you were fine the way it worked out. The OP has intent to immigrate, before she even leaves her home country. There's a difference there.

Best Wishes,
Rene

Noorah101

Hi Susan,

I'm sorry you lost your husband. I also lost my first husband, who was also Iranian.

The difference is that you married Ali once he was already here, and had already been here 8 years. The OP, Lupa, has the intent to immigrate even before leaving her home country, and that's misuse of the VWP. If she has the intent to immigrate, she should have the proper visa to do so.

Best Wishes,
Rene

ladygwennie

I would suggest that the OP finds a good lawyer, the money is worth it and if the lawyer is worth the money, follow his/her's advice. That way you can know all the legal ins and outs of the process and situation and the possible risks you might well be taking. Otherwise wish you the best of luck whatever you do.

ps i think from what i've read on this forum, whatever route people have taken to be with their loved one, they do love them and it has meant a lot to get to them.

cindyabs

Amen sister AND considering that one of the partners moved countries leaving friends, family and an established life behind to move over to be with their loved one-yeah, I'd say we all know what it's about......
Bottom line, as the law currently reads, two choices- legal or illegal. The process is complicated enough without adding to it.

ian-mstm

What else do you have to do that's so important?


Yup, that was me.


Oh please, do you think anyone posting in this forum hasn't been where you are? Don't be so naive.


I'm pretty sure this isn't a matter of life and death for either of you... and if it *is*, then you have far more serious problems than immigration!


Obsession is not healthy. Working towards a solution is good medicine. Working towards an illegal solution is not good medicine. It's an easy concept.

Ian

andrea874

Ian... you are wonderful.