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Old Apr 20th 2016, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Mjdee86
I imagine if you are in hospital and overstay - that you could apply for a B1/B2 at the Embassy on the basis that you overstayed for a legitimate reason (even if you're ineligible for VWP)?
With respect, you seem to think that US immigration is reasonable and/or logical. It isn't. While you are always free to apply for a B-1/2 visa, you'd be unlikely to get it. Why? Because you would have already demonstrated a complete disregard for US immigration rules and regulations by overstaying on the VWP. It wouldn't matter one whit that you were in hospital and overstayed. That is not their concern.

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Old Apr 20th 2016, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Mjdee86
So if you are punched in the face for no reason by an Immigration Official in the airport on the way home, and you're in hospital when the 91st day strikes, you're not able to use that as a justified excuse for overstaying?
You can use it as an excuse, but it's not going to make any difference! The onus is always on the traveler to leave when expected.

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Old Apr 20th 2016, 4:31 pm
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What Ian said.
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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
With respect, you seem to think that US immigration is reasonable and/or logical. ....
With respect, I think you should have said "fair", not "logical". ..... The problems people often have with USCIS is with their totally "logical" adherence to the US immigration laws and regulations despite those rules leading to "unfair" consequences.

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Originally Posted by Mjdee86
As I am sure you guys hear on these forums a lot, I get various "advice" thrown at me by non-qualified friends and co-workers, saying things like "just lie" or "just buy an extendable ticket - you'll get a three month stamp in your passport anyway" or "plan a 95 day trip and get a B2 from the Embassy - that way, you'll know you're getting in".
Well, thank goodness you didn't follow any of their advice

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Well, thank goodness you didn't follow any of their advice

Good luck with the bar exam and your future plans!
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Just for my own education, what is the issue with buying a return flight ticket (for one weeks time) and then extending it once you're in the country?

Do they document your printed return date when you go through the POE?

I understand that it is a lie by omission. But that first week the purpose of your visit could be "vacation in NYC" - you wouldn't be lying (although you'd be omitting your intention to extend).

Obviously if you're caught then that would make you permanently ineligible. But I'm struggling to see how you could get caught with that story?

Before some of you jump up and down at me for simply ASKING this question - I reiterate - this is for my own education. I do not intend to do it.
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Originally Posted by Mjdee86
I'm struggling to see how you could get caught with that story?
You'd likely be fine... right up until the officer specifically asks either how long you intend to stay in the US, or when you plan to leave the US. At that point, it's no longer a lie by omission - you either admit the plan (at which point he catches you in the lie), or you deliberately lie to gain an immigration benefit. Either way, it's not likely to work out well for you!

Now, will that happen? Who knows? I wouldn't risk it, but perhaps you have a greater risk tolerance than I do.


Before some of you jump up and down at me for simply ASKING this question - I reiterate - this is for my own education. I do not intend to do it.
I don't plan on murdering my wife... but if I were to start asking questions about the risks involved - for my own education, of course - it might still raise a few eyebrows!

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Ahhh, a bar exam question
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Ahhh, a bar exam question
I changed my flight
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