christmasoompa

Why do you have to pay? Your boyfriend is 35, so he must be able to afford to hire a lawyer at that age. Let him sort it.

Or alternatively, meet up elsewhere as others have already suggested. Out of interest, have you ever actually met in person?

Noorah101

Why not just take it one step at a time. Have you or have you not met in person yet?

If so, and you know you want him to immigrate to the USA, then concentrate on which visa to use for immigration (K-1 or Immigrant Visa), and how to overcome that.

If you have not yet met in person, and this is what you're trying to accomplish, then meet in another EU country - Spain or something. That way he can easily travel there, and you have never been refused entry there. Just go on a week's vacation or whatever, it shouldn't be a problem.

Then once you meet, you can decide what to do about any further visa applications for immigration. You might end up having to immigrate to the UK, and that's a fairly straightforward process, I believe.

I agree with the others that since you've been at this for a while and getting frustrated, at least a consultation with an attorney is a good idea. If you are having financial troubles, then you have even more to overcome with immigration to the USA....it's NOT cheap.

Rene

idlike2banonymous

He didn't want to immigrate here or anything. We still haven't met yet. Since I got refused entry to the UK I haven't tried again. I am just so scared they will send me back again. The plan was for me to move there all along. But since I got sent back and he's got into trouble, we didn't really know what to do. We worry about the cost of everything. We're just blue collar people.

What are the chances of me getting refused again?

The only thing I did was told them I was moving there. The IO said to me, if you had the right visa tomorrow you could come back and do that.

So, if I had all the things I had before, and change the 1 way to a round trip, would I be okay? I would have to return, I definitely wouldn't stay, because I don't want to risk doing the wrong thing. But IDK if they'd believe me because I was refused before.

Noorah101

What did he get in trouble for? The last thing he got in trouble for was when he was 21.

Yes, cost is a factor. Since you're only wanting to immigrate to the UK, you might be better off asking those kinds of questions over at www.uk-yankee.com. This forum is for people wanting to come to the USA.

Why are you fixated on visiting the UK right now? As we all are suggesting, meet up in a different country where you won't have this fear of getting turned away again. It will be a different country, a different vacation, different POE officer, etc. If you are afraid the UK has something on record about your refusal, then go to a different country. I'm not sure why you're so opposed to that idea. It's a perfect solution to what you want to achieve, which is meeting face to face.

Rene

p.s. - does the UK immigrant (or fiance) visa also require that you have met face to face, like the USA one does?

English Muffin

OP your story sounds familiar. Is this you?

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=522854

idlike2banonymous

Yes it does require you meet face to face, lol. I think that's another reason they sent me back is because I told them we'd not been face 2 face yet.

The last time he got into trouble was when he was 21. I misworded that I think in the last post, I meant to say because he had gotten into trouble when he was younger.

I'm okay w/ going to another country. Totally fine w/ that. Just thinking that eventually I'd have to try to go to the UK anyway. I don't really care where we have to go. Even if it's Mexico, I don't care. We feel like we haven't started anything. I am probably fixated on the UK because that was the first place I'd ever went to out of the states, first time I'd ever flown was over to there, it's familar, even though it's not. Basically, I'm just scared of being in the same situation again.

I just feel really stupid. I keep thinking, had I just been careful, read more, thought about things. It's too late, I know. I can't do anything about it. But I think because it was alot of firsts to me, even a year later, I'm still in shock.

idlike2banonymous

Yes it is me. I just didn't want to post all of that bad stuff about Paul. He's not a bad person. We're not bad people. I know how some people look at the things that people have done and what they think about them. I tried asking questions on another forum and I put all that info up and people were saying...he shouldn't come to our country...oh great another criminal...etc. It's not fair the way people treat you. But yes that is me. Noorah knows and this accounts going to be deleted and I guess I may as well go ahead and log into the other acct.

Bill_S

I thought so, too. You received a lot of advice a year ago. I don't think anyone will tell you anything different now. You were urged to meet in another country... have a short vacation together to meet each other. Why haven't you done this yet?

melissajean

When I came back I had to live with my brother. I had only starting living on my own again in November.

If we meet in another country, will he need a visa? Like, Spain or Mexico?

The reason we waited so long was because I thought once I got a house here, he could just come here. But, not anymore.

christmasoompa

He doesn't need a visa for anywhere in the EU so that's probably your best bet. Make a nice holiday of it and have fun in Italy or the south of France!

Presumably he's been saving up for the past year (I noticed you were advised to start saving a year ago for a lawyer) so perhaps he could pay for that immigration lawyer to get you started.

Good luck.

Elvira

Hm.

I'd really like to know how much effort *HE* has put into all this relationship and immigration stuff...

Noorah101

Not Mexico, but Spain, yes. You have to just get over your fear of being turned away at the POE. Now that you had that experience, you know what to expect, and how much information to give or not give.

Just go on a nice vacation to Spain and meet up there. He won't need a visa for that. Then you guys can start the path to your UK immigration, whatever that might be....this is not the forum for that.

I would say forget his visitor's visa to the USA. It's not worth all that hassle to overcome his ability to get the visitor's visa, just to meet in person for the first time, when you can easily do that in another EU country, and he's not going to be living in the USA anyway...so he doesn't really need to come here for anything.

Rene

melissajean

He doesn't know what to do. I mean, he'll tell me what he thinks, and then I'll start biting his head off and tell him that we can't do this, we can't do that. He is trying, we're both just at a loss.

He helped me when I couldn't find a job when I was living with my brother. And he helped me move. So, he has helped. A little after I came back, I woke up one morning blind in one eye. Doctors thought I had MS sent me to some very expensive specialists. Unfortunately, if you don't have insurance here, it's pretty expensive. I had about $3000 and spent it all on doctors, medicines, etc. Turns out I had optical neuritis, not even a big deal. So all that money wasted.

We were looking a few minutes ago at places closest to him. He is close to Belgium, Amsterdam, etc., because he lives in Ipswich. It'd cost him about 90# to fly or about 40# to take a ferry. It'd cost me about $1000 plane ticket. But for what he'd be saving for the cost of coming here, he's going to buy my plane ticket. Unfortunately, I only started working at a hospital in December and can't take off of work right now. So, it's a waiting game. Save $, save my vacation time. Stay the hell out of Heathrow by getting a non-stop to wherever I go. And when I get to where ever, tell IO I'm going for a vacation, I've got plenty of $ saved since I had to wait all this time, here's my bank info, here's my return ticket, here's my hotel confirmation, here's my passport, etc.

One thing...my passport has the cross thru Heathrow, do I get a new passport, or explain?

melissajean

We were also thinking, he can go ahead and try to get a visa to come here. If he does get denied, then we'll go ahead w/ the plans to go to another country. Does that sound or ?

meauxna

Why waste the money on a B visa application that will be denied and require a waiver?
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...2&postcount=10

mj, solutions have been offered to you so many times; I don't understand why you go over and over the same ground. Every time you come back to post it is the same story, same words. You're still afraid, you're still misinformed, you're still fretting and fretting instead of doing.

I'll bet each one of you could find a cheap package to somewhere like Cancun; package travel is totally cheap from the UK and you're close enough to Mexico to get there for very little.

You can post on as much as you want, I just wonder why nothing changes.