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Schnorbitz Mar 4th 2013 12:06 pm

N-400 and speeding tickets
 
After many searches, I'm still confused so please forgive me resurrecting a done to death topic. I am hoping to file my N-400 soon and have two speeding tickets on my record. Do I have to list these as being arrested, cited or detained?

Thanks in advance.

dreamercon Mar 4th 2013 1:09 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by Schnorbitz (Post 10582205)
After many searches, I'm still confused so please forgive me resurrecting a done to death topic. I am hoping to file my N-400 soon and have two speeding tickets on my record. Do I have to list these as being arrested, cited or detained?

Thanks in advance.

You should list them as citation.

Schnorbitz Mar 4th 2013 1:14 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by dreamercon (Post 10582334)
You should list them as citation.

Thank you.

And if my understanding is correct, I list them as a "Moving Violation" listing the outcome as "Fine Paid".

I should also select "No" to Q.18 "Have you ever been convicted of crime or offense"?

MarylandNed Mar 4th 2013 1:55 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by Schnorbitz (Post 10582347)
Thank you.

And if my understanding is correct, I list them as a "Moving Violation" listing the outcome as "Fine Paid".

I should also select "No" to Q.18 "Have you ever been convicted of crime or offense"?

Personally I would answer YES and then explain it at the interview. That's what I did.

Also, read page 25 of this document:
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/M-476.pdf

ian-mstm Mar 4th 2013 1:58 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by Schnorbitz (Post 10582347)
I list them as a "Moving Violation"...

No, you list them as speeding citation.



... listing the outcome as "Fine Paid".
Yes. If you have the exact amount, state it.



I should also select "No" to Q.18 "Have you ever been convicted of crime or offense"?
Yes, as long as you're referring only to the traffic tickets. We have no idea whether or not you have actually ever been convicted of a crime.

I had 3 speeding tickets when I submitted my N-400. I put down the information as I've supplied here... it was not an issue.

Ian

ian-mstm Mar 4th 2013 2:00 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 10582444)
Personally I would answer YES and then explain it at the interview. That's what I did.

I'm glad it worked out for you, but it wasn't necessary if your only citations were for speeding.

Ian

Schnorbitz Mar 4th 2013 2:28 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10582452)
No, you list them as speeding citation.



Yes. If you have the exact amount, state it.

Thank you


Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10582452)
Yes, as long as you're referring only to the traffic tickets. We have no idea whether or not you have actually ever been convicted of a crime.

Noted and understood, thank you.


Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10582452)
I had 3 speeding tickets when I submitted my N-400. I put down the information as I've supplied here... it was not an issue.

Again, thanks. This helps to clarify things for me.

MarylandNed Mar 4th 2013 2:53 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 10582457)
I'm glad it worked out for you, but it wasn't necessary if your only citations were for speeding.

Ian

You're probably right. I was just playing it safe because I wasn't sure. It was a non-issue in the interview anyway. I got the impression from the interviewing officer that she had seen it answered both ways (Yes & No) for traffic offenses.

Welshgator Mar 4th 2013 3:11 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 10582577)
You're probably right. I was just playing it safe because I wasn't sure. It was a non-issue in the interview anyway. I got the impression from the interviewing officer that she had seen it answered both ways (Yes & No) for traffic offenses.

I think it best to state it since it is a citation. As long as it is under $500 and not related to alcohol or drugs then you won't need to furnish documentation.
I posted my n-400 today and thought it best to be up front about it. It is covered in the n-400 application guideline pdf on the USCIS website.

Hotscot Mar 4th 2013 3:44 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 
For those with citations...didn't you do traffic school to erase them? Or do you still have to declare them anyway?

MarylandNed Mar 4th 2013 4:22 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by Welshgator (Post 10582620)
I think it best to state it since it is a citation. As long as it is under $500 and not related to alcohol or drugs then you won't need to furnish documentation.
I posted my n-400 today and thought it best to be up front about it. It is covered in the n-400 application guideline pdf on the USCIS website.

Yeah that was my thinking too....be completely honest and err on the side of caution if in doubt about anything because dealing with USCIS is already a major PITA without giving them another reason to make your life an even bigger misery.

ian-mstm Mar 4th 2013 5:22 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by hotscot (Post 10582712)
For those with citations...didn't you do traffic school to erase them?

I suppose some people did do that... but that's not the same as never having had them at all. The question doesn't ask about citations that have been erased from your record!



Or do you still have to declare them anyway?
You must still declare them.

Ian

Schnorbitz Mar 4th 2013 5:55 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by Welshgator (Post 10582620)
I think it best to state it since it is a citation. As long as it is under $500 and not related to alcohol or drugs then you won't need to furnish documentation.
I posted my n-400 today and thought it best to be up front about it. It is covered in the n-400 application guideline pdf on the USCIS website.

So did you answer "Yes" to questions 17 and 18?

Welshgator Mar 4th 2013 8:34 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 

Originally Posted by Schnorbitz (Post 10583026)
So did you answer "Yes" to questions 17 and 18?

I answered "No" to everything except the one that asks if you had a citation, which is Q16 I believe. I provide no documentation with the application,since it was less than $500 fine and not drug or alcohol related. I did state the amount of fine paid in the info box.
I did do the driving school to remove the points but since it is still a citation it should still be reported on the n-400 in my mind.
I'll probably take my paperwork showing the ticket and the receipt for payment of the fine at the courthouse to the interview just in case. Hope that helps.

I was not arrested, charged with a crime or subsequently convicted, so you answer no to Q.17 and Q.18. I've never been arrested but I'm sure they'd have to read you your Miranda rights, probably ty-wrap your wrists and throw you in the back of a black and white, then be videoed in the back seat for later upload to Youtube...so, you'd likely know if you were arrested... :D

Welshgator Mar 4th 2013 8:50 pm

Re: N-400 and speeding tickets
 
BTW, Schnorbitz - when did Man United become red dragons? I grew up a fan and they were always the red devils - I suppose that is not politically or morally correct to use any more?


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