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Old Nov 18th 2001, 9:17 pm
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Hi,

1. The application asks for "Affiliations" Part 10 B. Additional Questions. I am part
of several work-related associations. I guess this is what they want? The reason I
ask is that the instructions say "...answering Yes may not always deny
naturalization..."

2. My I-751 is still not approved. I just copy the NOA and the additional stamp in
my passport?

3. Do I write one check for $250 or 2 checks for $225 & $25 (stupid question, I
agree)

Thanks a ton!
 
Old Nov 18th 2001, 9:32 pm
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Yes, Yes and two checks

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Old Nov 19th 2001, 1:22 pm
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but one cannot apply for = Naturalization until 3
years AFTER receiving the I-751. If this is incorrect, I have a bone to pick with
whomever told me that.

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Old Nov 19th 2001, 1:45 pm
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Go pick that bone.

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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but one cannot apply for Naturalization until 3
years AFTER receiving the I-751. If this is incorrect, I have a bone to pick with
whomever told me that.

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Old Nov 19th 2001, 1:47 pm
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If based on marriage to a USC, 3 years after getting permanent residency

www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/services/natz/insfnl.pdf

page 18, table of requirements.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but one cannot apply for Naturalization until 3
years AFTER receiving the I-751. If this is incorrect, I have a bone to pick with
whomever told me that.

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Old Nov 19th 2001, 2:04 pm
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Jonathan_ATC wrote:
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Dem bones! One can apply for naturalization 3 years (90 days shy of) after receiving
any residency, either conditional or unconditional. You must be resident for 3 years.
See the naturalization section of the INS website, they have a very nice section on
that. Alvena
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Old Nov 19th 2001, 2:44 pm
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I think we have previously corrected you on this!

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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but one cannot apply for Naturalization until 3
years AFTER receiving the I-751. If this is incorrect, I have a bone to pick with
whomever told me that.

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Thankfully there will be turkey available soon so Sue will have lots of bones to pick on; although the person who gave her that information is the real turkey.

Alvena is correct ... it is 3 years (less 90 days) from the time you receive the AOS Approval (I-551 stamp in your passport) if you have adjusted status from marriage to a USC.

Note that you do not have to have received approval of your I-751 for the removal of conditions in order to apply for naturalization. Your I-751 can still be pending (as is the case with some people still waiting 16 months after applying to Vermont).

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Old Nov 19th 2001, 2:54 pm
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Default Ooops not Sue but Jonathan

with the wrong information. Do you have this incorrect information on your website Jonathan????

My apologies Sue.
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Old Nov 21st 2001, 3:06 pm
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Jonathan, are you mistyping I-751 when you really mean I-485? Let's put it in plain
English. You can file after 3 years (less 90 days) of being a permanent resident even
if you are still a conditional permanent resident. No ifs, ands or buts - you *can*
do it, people *have* done it and the CSC even published a rule about it saying they
would finalize the processing of the I-751 as part of the naturalization paperwork.

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Old Nov 21st 2001, 3:10 pm
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Your error is in assuming that a person who is a conditional permanent resident is
not a permanent resident - they are! *Or* perhaps you are assuming that this person
hasn't been a permanent resident for the time duration - that I can't answer for
though I'm sure they have - but we know they must have been a permanent resident for
at least two years because they have an I-751 outstanding.

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Old Nov 21st 2001, 3:46 pm
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Andy and Jonathan - You two are posting at cross purposes Jonathan is stating that
timewise an I-751 would be filed before a N-400 could be filed. Andy is stating that
an I-751 may not be completely adjudicated at the time a N-400 can be filed. Both of
you are correct. Take Care. Shelley

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Old Nov 21st 2001, 3:54 pm
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But that's not what Jonathan said. Here's Jonathan's original message that started
Rita and I correcting him:

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You see - he's not saying you would need to file the I-751 first, he's saying
it would have to have been approved for three years before you can apply - and
that is wrong.

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Unless, of course, the heat of Florida has gotten to him and he meant to type I-551 instead of I-751?

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Old Nov 21st 2001, 8:27 pm
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Andy quoted you the law that allows one to apply for citizenship if the I-751 has not
yet been acted on. INS will adjucate the I-751 at the same time as the N-400. I don't
know why you choose to ignore Andy's post and why you continually refer to having to
have the I-751 for three years. In case you have been taking one of your sabbaticals
again, this is not the first NG poster to be doing this. Deb (Can) of the John/Deb
posters also filed for her N-400 and they are waiting 17 months for Vermont to
approve their I-751. INS accepted it so perhaps you should too.

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