N-400 denial- difficult to believe
Dec 8th 2008, 3:12 pm
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N-400 denial- difficult to believe
My story:
Married for an american citizen for 8 years, permenent resident for 7years.
Application for N-400 sent almost 2 years ago.Fingerprinted twice meanwhile.
Received a letter for an interview earlier this year that was later cancelled by the local office -no reason given.
After not hearing anything for while, I called the 800 number and was informed that my case was closed- no reason given.
After many letters to the local office and contacting my representatives the only thing I got so far from the local office is to " submit certified copies of police clearence for every city you have lived in for the past 5 years".I should bring those to the interview, however there is no interview scheduled .
It looks like a dead end street for me. I am just the average stay at home mom of a beautiful 5 year old american girl, never broken any law, never even been stopped by the police. Yet my husband and I have been punished by this beaurocratic mashine.
What do I do?
Married for an american citizen for 8 years, permenent resident for 7years.
Application for N-400 sent almost 2 years ago.Fingerprinted twice meanwhile.
Received a letter for an interview earlier this year that was later cancelled by the local office -no reason given.
After not hearing anything for while, I called the 800 number and was informed that my case was closed- no reason given.
After many letters to the local office and contacting my representatives the only thing I got so far from the local office is to " submit certified copies of police clearence for every city you have lived in for the past 5 years".I should bring those to the interview, however there is no interview scheduled .
It looks like a dead end street for me. I am just the average stay at home mom of a beautiful 5 year old american girl, never broken any law, never even been stopped by the police. Yet my husband and I have been punished by this beaurocratic mashine.
What do I do?
Dec 8th 2008, 3:14 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
My story:
Married for an american citizen for 8 years, permenent resident for 7years.
Application for N-400 sent almost 2 years ago.Fingerprinted twice meanwhile.
Received a letter for an interview earlier this year that was later cancelled by the local office -no reason given.
After not hearing anything for while, I called the 800 number and was informed that my case was closed- no reason given.
After many letters to the local office and contacting my representatives the only thing I got so far from the local office is to " submit certified copies of police clearence for every city you have lived in for the past 5 years".I should bring those to the interview, however there is no interview scheduled .
It looks like a dead end street for me. I am just the average stay at home mom of a beautiful 5 year old american girl, never broken any law, never even been stopped by the police. Yet my husband and I have been punished by this beaurocratic mashine.
What do I do?
Married for an american citizen for 8 years, permenent resident for 7years.
Application for N-400 sent almost 2 years ago.Fingerprinted twice meanwhile.
Received a letter for an interview earlier this year that was later cancelled by the local office -no reason given.
After not hearing anything for while, I called the 800 number and was informed that my case was closed- no reason given.
After many letters to the local office and contacting my representatives the only thing I got so far from the local office is to " submit certified copies of police clearence for every city you have lived in for the past 5 years".I should bring those to the interview, however there is no interview scheduled .
It looks like a dead end street for me. I am just the average stay at home mom of a beautiful 5 year old american girl, never broken any law, never even been stopped by the police. Yet my husband and I have been punished by this beaurocratic mashine.
What do I do?
When you say representatives are you saying the local congressmans office and a lawyer!!
Dec 8th 2008, 3:28 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
Difficult to say what has happened to your case. What district office are you dealing with? Did you not make an infopass appointment and go in person to ascertain what the problem was and when the next interview would be scheduled.
As a guess it would appear that perhaps the security check came up with some hits on your name but then again that would have happened during your AOS petition as well. Assuming that you have not been moving around a lot in the last five years, I would just contact the police department in each of the cities you have lived in and obtain clearance certificates. It doesn't seem lot a very difficult thing to do.
Why do you say your husband is being punished? Is he not a USC? Is he here illegally or on another type of visa and waiting for your naturalization so you can file for him?
If I were in the same situation, I would first make an infopass appointment and go in person and try to determine what is the problem. Then if it cannot be worked out at the infopass appointment, I would bring all this information to an immigration attorney and ask for their assistance in straightening out the problem.
As a guess it would appear that perhaps the security check came up with some hits on your name but then again that would have happened during your AOS petition as well. Assuming that you have not been moving around a lot in the last five years, I would just contact the police department in each of the cities you have lived in and obtain clearance certificates. It doesn't seem lot a very difficult thing to do.
Why do you say your husband is being punished? Is he not a USC? Is he here illegally or on another type of visa and waiting for your naturalization so you can file for him?
If I were in the same situation, I would first make an infopass appointment and go in person and try to determine what is the problem. Then if it cannot be worked out at the infopass appointment, I would bring all this information to an immigration attorney and ask for their assistance in straightening out the problem.
Dec 8th 2008, 3:31 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
Time to maybe go for a face to face chat
via infopass
http://infopass.uscis.gov/
and call to senators.. congressman ..
time to kick ass
Dec 8th 2008, 3:36 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
For future readers of this thread, it's not a bad idea to actually GO to a cancelled interview. You never know, maybe someone else can interview you that day after all, or at least you would not be a "no show" if that cancellation letter was sent by mistake or something.
Rene
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Dec 8th 2008, 3:37 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
My story:
Married for an american citizen for 8 years, permenent resident for 7years.
Application for N-400 sent almost 2 years ago.Fingerprinted twice meanwhile.
Received a letter for an interview earlier this year that was later cancelled by the local office -no reason given.
After not hearing anything for while, I called the 800 number and was informed that my case was closed- no reason given.
After many letters to the local office and contacting my representatives the only thing I got so far from the local office is to " submit certified copies of police clearence for every city you have lived in for the past 5 years".I should bring those to the interview, however there is no interview scheduled .
It looks like a dead end street for me. I am just the average stay at home mom of a beautiful 5 year old american girl, never broken any law, never even been stopped by the police. Yet my husband and I have been punished by this beaurocratic mashine.
What do I do?
Married for an american citizen for 8 years, permenent resident for 7years.
Application for N-400 sent almost 2 years ago.Fingerprinted twice meanwhile.
Received a letter for an interview earlier this year that was later cancelled by the local office -no reason given.
After not hearing anything for while, I called the 800 number and was informed that my case was closed- no reason given.
After many letters to the local office and contacting my representatives the only thing I got so far from the local office is to " submit certified copies of police clearence for every city you have lived in for the past 5 years".I should bring those to the interview, however there is no interview scheduled .
It looks like a dead end street for me. I am just the average stay at home mom of a beautiful 5 year old american girl, never broken any law, never even been stopped by the police. Yet my husband and I have been punished by this beaurocratic mashine.
What do I do?
Just wanted to say sorry to hear about all this confusion. My alien husband just applied for citizenship, I would be upset if this happened to us as well. Go in person via Infopass appointment and talk to someone in person.
Best Wishes,
Rene
Dec 8th 2008, 3:50 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
Well thats nonsense ...
Time to maybe go for a face to face chat
via infopass
http://infopass.uscis.gov/
and call to senators.. congressman ..
time to kick ass
Time to maybe go for a face to face chat
via infopass
http://infopass.uscis.gov/
and call to senators.. congressman ..
time to kick ass
Isn't doing a background check on the applicant part of the cost and process for the N-400? Why should the onus be put on the OP for it? Highly unusual request imo.
Dec 8th 2008, 8:24 pm
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Thanks so much everyone,
I do remember some of you from 8 years ago when we started dealing with what it was then INS.
ABSOLUTELY: IF YOU DO EVER READ THIS AND HAVE AN INTERVIEW SCHEDULED AND CANCELLED- GO,GO , GO!
At least that the lady from the 800 number thought might `ve happenned.I didn`t show up and they FORGOT that they have cancelled it.I didn`t know what happened , these are just speculations but makes sense .
My husbund is an american, secound generation. He was punished because he is a good citizen of his country and what should have been a formality turns into a nightmare for us. Plus alot of money and time.
By representatives I mean a congessman and a senator. Both of them have been very fast in their response and I`m grateful, very grateful for that .I would certainly keep working with them.
I know about the infopass but it`s a long way and expensive stay. I do feel that the money would be better spend for our child education for example.
About the issue with the police clearence certificate, any more information would be very useful for me. We moved once .Who do I call and what do I do?
I do remember some of you from 8 years ago when we started dealing with what it was then INS.
ABSOLUTELY: IF YOU DO EVER READ THIS AND HAVE AN INTERVIEW SCHEDULED AND CANCELLED- GO,GO , GO!
At least that the lady from the 800 number thought might `ve happenned.I didn`t show up and they FORGOT that they have cancelled it.I didn`t know what happened , these are just speculations but makes sense .
My husbund is an american, secound generation. He was punished because he is a good citizen of his country and what should have been a formality turns into a nightmare for us. Plus alot of money and time.
By representatives I mean a congessman and a senator. Both of them have been very fast in their response and I`m grateful, very grateful for that .I would certainly keep working with them.
I know about the infopass but it`s a long way and expensive stay. I do feel that the money would be better spend for our child education for example.
About the issue with the police clearence certificate, any more information would be very useful for me. We moved once .Who do I call and what do I do?
Dec 8th 2008, 8:31 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
Thanks so much everyone,
I do remember some of you from 8 years ago when we started dealing with what it was then INS.
ABSOLUTELY: IF YOU DO EVER READ THIS AND HAVE AN INTERVIEW SCHEDULED AND CANCELLED- GO,GO , GO!
At least that the lady from the 800 number thought might `ve happenned.I didn`t show up and they FORGOT that they have cancelled it.I didn`t know what happened , these are just speculations but makes sense .
My husbund is an american, secound generation. He was punished because he is a good citizen of his country and what should have been a formality turns into a nightmare for us. Plus alot of money and time.
By representatives I mean a congessman and a senator. Both of them have been very fast in their response and I`m grateful, very grateful for that .I would certainly keep working with them.
I know about the infopass but it`s a long way and expensive stay. I do feel that the money would be better spend for our child education for example.
About the issue with the police clearence certificate, any more information would be very useful for me. We moved once .Who do I call and what do I do?
I do remember some of you from 8 years ago when we started dealing with what it was then INS.
ABSOLUTELY: IF YOU DO EVER READ THIS AND HAVE AN INTERVIEW SCHEDULED AND CANCELLED- GO,GO , GO!
At least that the lady from the 800 number thought might `ve happenned.I didn`t show up and they FORGOT that they have cancelled it.I didn`t know what happened , these are just speculations but makes sense .
My husbund is an american, secound generation. He was punished because he is a good citizen of his country and what should have been a formality turns into a nightmare for us. Plus alot of money and time.
By representatives I mean a congessman and a senator. Both of them have been very fast in their response and I`m grateful, very grateful for that .I would certainly keep working with them.
I know about the infopass but it`s a long way and expensive stay. I do feel that the money would be better spend for our child education for example.
About the issue with the police clearence certificate, any more information would be very useful for me. We moved once .Who do I call and what do I do?
Personally, I wouldn't bother with the police certificates until you go to the InfoPass and find out why you received the denial notice.
Topi, this is not any kind of punishment. These things happen, it's not like USCIS singled you out for this.
Dec 8th 2008, 8:47 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
No it not that far - 2 hours and around 200 $ in total cost.
I know these things happenned and of course it`s not a punishment.
I did feel a little emotonal at first.
I didn`t received a denial notice. I know about it from the uscis 800 number
I know these things happenned and of course it`s not a punishment.
I did feel a little emotonal at first.
I didn`t received a denial notice. I know about it from the uscis 800 number
Dec 8th 2008, 8:50 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
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Dec 9th 2008, 3:23 pm
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I woudn`t trust the 800 number most of the time. However in this case they have been helpful and much more prompt and serious in their resonse and actions than usual.
About the infopass I know that this is the best way to deal. I want to make sure that If I go there I leave with a solution. During my long hisrory with USCIS I have had around 10 infopasses and maybe only 1 or 2 ended with some kind of solution.
I have a good faith in my representatives .
About the infopass I know that this is the best way to deal. I want to make sure that If I go there I leave with a solution. During my long hisrory with USCIS I have had around 10 infopasses and maybe only 1 or 2 ended with some kind of solution.
I have a good faith in my representatives .
Jan 19th 2009, 9:05 pm
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Well, my husband and I did it again.
I had my naturalization interview and I passed the test.
To make the long story short after an intense but short exchange of letters btn us and one of the congresspeople aides ,USCIS sent an interview appointment.
I never made an infopass. I have never had a lawyer.
I have my husband to thank for. He wrote all this long , touching letters.He did it.
Hope that my case will be appproved and hope to have an oath ceremony soon.
Hope my post will be helpful for many others.
I had my naturalization interview and I passed the test.
To make the long story short after an intense but short exchange of letters btn us and one of the congresspeople aides ,USCIS sent an interview appointment.
I never made an infopass. I have never had a lawyer.
I have my husband to thank for. He wrote all this long , touching letters.He did it.
Hope that my case will be appproved and hope to have an oath ceremony soon.
Hope my post will be helpful for many others.
Jan 19th 2009, 9:50 pm
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Re: N-400 denial- difficult to believe
Congratulations, topi. I'm so pleased that your husband and the congressperson's staff were able to assist you.
I'm curious though why you were not approved at the time of the interview? Is something amiss that you were put on hold for approval?
I'm curious though why you were not approved at the time of the interview? Is something amiss that you were put on hold for approval?