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Old Nov 2nd 2005, 6:19 am
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It is not merely dependent on the length of time spend out of the US but where her residency is. She could be gone for one day and be found to have abandoned her US residency. As Rene mentioned if she is planning to remain outside of the US for 6 months or more than apply before she leaves for a re-entry permit via form I-131. She need not wait for it to be issued. It can come to her daughter's mailbox and daughter can forward to her. However, she needs to show, if asked at the POE after traveling, that she has not abandoned her US residency. That could be an active lease, active bank accounts, utility bills, etc.


Originally Posted by Cb
Thanks folks, you've cleared up a lot!

In our case Mom/Grandma is coming in on a petition from her daughter
(my wife). She'll need to return to visit her mother and the current
expectation is that she'll probably need to visit her in the old
country more months than she actually spends here at least for the next
couple of years as caregiver. Unless, of course, that's getting too
close to that fine line, since the U.S. is where she's going to reside
permanently once we get over this transition.

Is there a rough guideline as to how much time she should spend in each
place each year so as not to endanger her GC status?

Thanks again!

- CB

Noorah101 wrote:
    > > CB wrote:
    > > > Thank you.
    > > > Yes, she has the immigrant visa in hand. Once she arrives, is she
    > > > allowed to leave again temporarily after a short stay (say, 30-90
    > > > days)? She would like to eventually stay here permanently, of
    > > > course,
    > > > but must return to her native country periodically to care for her
    > > > own
    > > > mother (who is 92!). Does she need a travelling document or can she
    > > > leave and return on her current passport with the immigrant visa?
    > > > How long does it take for the permanent card to arrive here once she
    > > > enters?
    > >
    > >
    > > Here is what I know from a family friend: She (and hubby and minor
    > > children) got a GC stamp (for each of them) at the port of entry to
    > > US.
    > > They left minor children with relatives and left because the hubby
    > > couldn't stand living here. The mother goes back and forth because of
    > > the children while the father gave up coming back. I have no idea how
    > > long she stays here when she comes here each time. She does go back
    > > and
    > > forth a alot.
    > >
    > > Your Mom can do the same, I guess.
    > Hi Amanda,
    > In the scenario you mention, the father is probably abandoning his
    > permanent residency in the USA, if he hasn't done so already. The
    > mother might be walking a fine line herself. I wouldn't recommend it
    > to anyone.
    >
    > Best Wishes,
    > Rene
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Old Nov 2nd 2005, 11:50 am
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She could certainly have a bank account here (and how many nanoseconds
after that will she receive 0% credit card offers? <grin>), but she'd
be living with us, probably permanently, so she'd be unlikely to have
utility bills, etc., but I suppose she'd be like all Americans,
receiving tons of junk mail in no time. Does that count? :^)

She does still own an apt. in her previous country, but has not lived
in it for a couple of years (rents it out). Perhaps it's wise if she
gives that up soon.

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Old Nov 2nd 2005, 11:52 am
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WRT the one-way ticket, I was thinking less about the cost and more
about the "orientation". If she's a permanent resident then all
subsequent tickets should be originating from the U.S. not the old
country as this one is. So, at some point, she buys just a one-way
ticket to here to get "in phase".
 
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Originally Posted by Cb
She could certainly have a bank account here (and how many nanoseconds
after that will she receive 0% credit card offers? <grin>), but she'd
be living with us, probably permanently, so she'd be unlikely to have
utility bills, etc., but I suppose she'd be like all Americans,
receiving tons of junk mail in no time. Does that count? :^)

She does still own an apt. in her previous country, but has not lived
in it for a couple of years (rents it out). Perhaps it's wise if she
gives that up soon.

- CB
The burden is on *her* to show that the US is her primary residence. There is a lot of misunderstanding 'out there' on what one needs to do to maintain their PR. Many poeple have stuck to the 'visit once every 12 months' plan which worked, for a time. Things are different these days, however.

I don't think junk mail, or ownership of foreign real estate say much at all, either way
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Originally Posted by Cb
WRT the one-way ticket, I was thinking less about the cost and more
about the "orientation". If she's a permanent resident then all
subsequent tickets should be originating from the U.S. not the old
country as this one is. So, at some point, she buys just a one-way
ticket to here to get "in phase".
Do what's convenient for you, however you define it. If I could buy tix overseas and get a better deal, I would not hesitate to have my PR husband use them. At some point it does become easier to buy them all here, because we're going to different places instead of just one.
I've never heard of the ticket origination having an impact on one's immigration case.
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Old Nov 2nd 2005, 12:35 pm
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or ownership of foreign real estate say much at all, either way

She might, however, consider the tax implications of selling before and after becoming a permanent resident. In the US, she might become liable to capital gains tax if she sells after landing.
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She might, however, consider the tax implications of selling before and after becoming a permanent resident. In the US, she might become liable to capital gains tax if she sells after landing.

If it is a country that has a tax treaty in place with the US than anything under $80,000 is okay as long as tax is paid in that country. As long as the residence is not her place of residency and is rented then that becomes a moot point in immigration court.

For the OP, there are other means of showing residency here in the US. A car registered in her name, a car loan, etc. The re-entry permit is good for two years (if asked for that amount of time) and is renewable. Her circumstances for being outside of the US are a factor in her favor but only as long as she can show her continued residency here in the US if asked.
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If it is a country that has a tax treaty in place with the US than anything under $80,000 is okay as long as tax is paid in that country. As long as the residence is not her place of residency and is rented then that becomes a moot point in immigration court.
Er...it's actually slightly more complicated than your explanation! She could only claim the $80k if she were not resident, BUT this would most probably be incompatible with her US permanent resident status. Therefore, there may not be a first-80k write off. She could certainly be liable for profit from rental income, though this may indeed be mitigated by a tax treaty. She definitely opens herself up to US capital gains tax and may not be able to take the exclusion since the property is not her principal residence.

It has nothing to do with her immigration status whatsoever, but the OP should investigate whether she will be liable to US capital gains if his/her mother were to sell the property after she had taken permanent resident status in the US. It is a common problem faced by expats taking residence in the US.
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Bumf from USCIS site:

Maintaining Permanent Residence You may lose your permanent residence status if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States under the law in section 237 of the Immigration and Nationality Act. If you commit such an act, you may be brought before the immigration courts to determine your right to remain a Permanent Resident.

You may be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status if you:

* Move to another country intending to live there permanently.
* Remain outside of the US for more than one year without obtaining a reentry permit or returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year.
* Remain outside of the US for more than two years after issuance of a reentry permit without obtaining a returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year.
* Fail to file income tax returns while living outside of the US for any period.
* Declare yourself a “nonimmigrant” on your tax returns.

It is easier to say what you could do to lose it than what you can do to keep it.
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