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krm Jun 19th 2011 1:25 pm

Medical for B2 Visa
 
Hi everyone,
I wondered if anyone has been through the medical exam which I believe is often required after interview if you are ineligible for VWP due to drug cautions. I have an interview soon and am expecting to be sent for a medical but am rather nervous about what it entails. Any information would be greatly appreciated! :)

ian-mstm Jun 19th 2011 1:58 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by krm (Post 9442496)
I have an interview soon and am expecting to be sent for a medical but am rather nervous about what it entails.

The physician will review your history - and will likely concentrate on your drug issues. If he finds that you are an habitual drug abuser, you might be deemed inadmissible and will then need a waiver for the inadmissibility. That said, there's nothing you can do to change your past.

You probably want to get hold of an ACPO certificate (hint = Google is your friend) prior to your interview and medical if possible.

Ian

Pookiedookie Jun 19th 2011 2:18 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
You should have lied, you wouldn't have been caught they don't have access to UK police records you can't get a visa with drug conviction can you?

krm Jun 19th 2011 2:21 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Thanks for the quick reply and the info Ian.
I have already obtained an ACPO certificate and have my interview scheduled for the beginning of July, and after the many hours of trawling forums fully expect to be sent for a medical. Do you know what kind of tests they do at the medical and the procedure of it? Seems it is a very long process to pay for a much regretted mistake in order to attend a family wedding in the U.S this summer.

Married2abrit Jun 19th 2011 2:22 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9442571)
You should have lied, you wouldn't have been caught they don't have access to UK police records you can't get a visa with drug conviction can you?

Actually, they do have access (you have to submit a police report for everywhere you've lived longer than 1 year). Also lying to immigration is a crime and can incur a ban of varying time (3 years, 10 years, lifetime).

krm Jun 19th 2011 2:25 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9442571)
You should have lied, you wouldn't have been caught they don't have access to UK police records you can't get a visa with drug conviction can you?

I did think about it but eventually concluded that it wasn't worth getting to the borders and getting sent back (plus all the nerves on the plane etc). I thought I may have received some credit for being honest and given that this was my first conviction but after having read lots of forums seems like I may have made the wrong choice. Too late now as I have sent them my record :(
Interestingly just read a forum where a guy said he had lied at POE 10 times (!!!) as he didn't realise he was inadmissible on a drug caution and then went for interview and got a visa there and then without any medical or anything. Life is unfair and I guess I won't be so lucky despite my honesty :(

Pookiedookie Jun 19th 2011 2:26 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Probably draw blood and fill a cup full of urine. I got a few people I advise on drug treatment program and they get urine tested for drug use. These guys may want hair analysis as well. The hair anaylsis would show if you have been taking drugs like weed over a long period of time even though your last usage has left your system and isn't in your urine sample.

krm Jun 19th 2011 2:29 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Wow that's intense. I was under the impression it was just a urine sample and an examination of eyes, nose and mouth (don't know why they do that or what that shows?) Can anyone confirm from experience that it is a blood/hair test also? Thanks a lot guys.

Pookiedookie Jun 19th 2011 2:30 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by krm (Post 9442577)
I did think about it but eventually concluded that it wasn't worth getting to the borders and getting sent back (plus all the nerves on the plane etc). I thought I may have received some credit for being honest and given that this was my first conviction but after having read lots of forums seems like I may have made the wrong choice. Too late now as I have sent them my record :(
Interestingly just read a forum where a guy said he had lied at POE 10 times (!!!) as he didn't realise he was inadmissible on a drug caution and then went for interview and got a visa there and then without any medical or anything. Life is unfair and I guess I won't be so lucky despite my honesty :(

They may give credit for the honesty I couldn't speculate. It is a hard decision to make though because how do you prove your clean for a sustained period of time. Like you say in the drinking denial threads recently, those people will have to abstain from drinking for years, I don't see how they can medically prove you have been drug free for years? Just my opnion.

krm Jun 19th 2011 2:37 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
I know I think it's all absurd personally but doesn't matter what I think! I just really hope the medical is not to invasive (I hate blood lol) and quite straight forward and that they take some mercy on me for my very much regretted mistake. I hope to travel with my fiance who is American and all the family for a family wedding, I wonder if that will help my application? So nervous about the whole process now I really want to know what it entails so I can prepare.

Pookiedookie Jun 19th 2011 2:38 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by krm (Post 9442584)
Wow that's intense. I was under the impression it was just a urine sample and an examination of eyes, nose and mouth (don't know why they do that or what that shows?) Can anyone confirm from experience that it is a blood/hair test also? Thanks a lot guys.

They will definately draw blood I would, and hair testing was how police were able to show shannon matthews was drugged by her mother over a period of months. Besides what would stop you from taking someone elses urine who is clean into the surgery in a test tube or a couple of shot bottles and passing that over as your sample. I highly doubt they will stand over you whilst you pee in a cup especially if your a woman they will ask you to fill the little plastic cup in the toliet and you come back with a cup. So yeah they will probably want more than urine test

krm Jun 19th 2011 2:39 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Can anyone confirm this from experience? Thanks

md95065 Jun 19th 2011 5:19 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9442592)
So yeah they will probably want more than urine test

Since all that you have done so far in this thread is to give extremely bad advice

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9442571)
You should have lied, you wouldn't have been caught they don't have access to UK police records you can't get a visa with drug conviction can you?

and lots of random speculation it might be better if you just stop now and wait for one of the posters on here who has actually been through such a medical to come along and explain what really happens

ian-mstm Jun 19th 2011 5:31 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9442571)
You should have lied...

This is incredibly bad and stupid advice.

Ian

meauxna Jun 19th 2011 6:22 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9442571)
You should have lied, you wouldn't have been caught they don't have access to UK police records you can't get a visa with drug conviction can you?

Please review some of the pinned threads for this forum:

Forum Usage Guidelines - READ BEFORE POSTING! is a good one to start with.
Looks like you also need the Immigration Fraud - Just Don't Do It and the site rules: http://britishexpats.com/site-rules/

Considering the content of your previous thread, you are not in a position to be telling people how to lie to gain an immigration benefit.

Pookiedookie Jun 19th 2011 9:52 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by md95065 (Post 9442743)
Since all that you have done so far in this thread is to give extremely bad advice


and lots of random speculation it might be better if you just stop now and wait for one of the posters on here who has actually been through such a medical to come along and explain what really happens

This is what I found online about methods of drug testing.

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/cannabis/drugtests.htm

Drugs in hair can be detected upto 90 days after use, urine sample if 5-7 days after use it doesn't say about presence of drugs in blood tests. Surely they will want the maximum scope of testing won't they which is hair samples.

krm Jun 19th 2011 9:56 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
You may think so, although the few accounts I have heard are of simply a urine test and eyes, nose and mouth examination. Can anyone confirm? Thanks a lot! Anything to calm the nerves ey?!

krm Jun 19th 2011 10:18 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
That's not the issue I just would like to know what to expect and am looking for some information from people who have experience with the interview and possible medical. If that is you then please post on this thread, if not then its obvious we can all speculate but that is what I am trying to avoid! Many thanks.

Pookiedookie Jun 19th 2011 10:22 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by krm (Post 9443118)
That's not the issue I just would like to know what to expect and am looking for some information from people who have experience with the interview and possible medical. If that is you then please post on this thread, if not then its obvious we can all speculate but that is what I am trying to avoid! Many thanks.

The website I linked up seems to be very thorough about drug testing procedures in medicals. There are probably other sites of a similar nature as well. I would check those out for piece of mind.

Best of luck

Pookiedookie Jun 20th 2011 9:37 am

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 9442845)
Please review some of the pinned threads for this forum:

Forum Usage Guidelines - READ BEFORE POSTING! is a good one to start with.
Looks like you also need the Immigration Fraud - Just Don't Do It and the site rules: http://britishexpats.com/site-rules/

Considering the content of your previous thread, you are not in a position to be telling people how to lie to gain an immigration benefit.

Apologies i understand it will seriously compound the situation if it where to be discovered. I appreciate you to say not to lie and your are abosoutly right of course but I have to wonder how the op will feel if they are denied and that honesty which they chose to provide thrown back in their face where a lie would have been successful.

Are you making the argument that I an factually incorrect about access to UK police records because I know for a fact I am not, because I give a couple of people character refs for court hearings over the last 18 months for theft with one person and affray drunk disorderly with the other and they have since been to america whilst unemployed.

ian-mstm Jun 20th 2011 1:56 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by Pookiedookie (Post 9443904)
I have to wonder how the op will feel if they are denied and that honesty which they chose to provide thrown back in their face where a lie would have been successful.

It's one thing to lie on your own application if you so choose to do... but it's something else to tell someone else to lie. If they do and bad shit happens, you're not the one who will get in trouble. But y'know what, you'll probably never know what happened and, assuming all is well, you'll do it again because it was so successful the first time. Screw around with your own life if you want to... don't screw around with someone else's.

Ian

krm Jun 20th 2011 3:33 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
This thread seems to have got a bit sidetracked lol. Lying is certainly not an option at this stage so not really in the mix but I really would like to know what to expect in the interview and/or medical if anyone with experience would be so kind as to share? Thanks guys :)

GeoffM Jun 20th 2011 3:47 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by krm (Post 9444555)
This thread seems to have got a bit sidetracked lol. Lying is certainly not an option at this stage so not really in the mix but I really would like to know what to expect in the interview and/or medical if anyone with experience would be so kind as to share? Thanks guys :)

Ignore the fool.:thumbdown:

However, you don't get to direct the interview or medical so what's the use in knowing what will happen? And even if somebody here has experienced it, who's to say that your experience will be the same? If you want to go the US then you have to play by their rules - and that means doing whatever they ask of you, be it a few friendly questions or an intense interrogation with extraction of samples from your body.

krm Jun 20th 2011 3:51 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Unfortunately this is true, but still I would be very appreciative to hear other's experiences as I am sure the process is not too dissimilar. While I am not able to control it I would still like to know what to expect at the interview/medical. Especially the medical as if it is an intense examination I would like to know before hand or if it isn't any info would help me stop stressing. I'm sure all can appreciate a medical is a very scary prospect especially to one who hates the docs and hasn't been in years! Thanks.

GeoffM Jun 20th 2011 3:59 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Expect the worst and it'll be easier from there on in! If you have nothing to hide, no lies to create and maintain, no substances in your body, then there should be nothing to worry about. Good luck.

ian-mstm Jun 20th 2011 4:02 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 

Originally Posted by krm (Post 9444596)
Especially the medical as if it is an intense examination I would like to know before hand or if it isn't any info would help me stop stressing.

Despite Pookiedookie's penchant for fear-mongering, the medical is generally non-invasive... and you always have the option of asking the physician to stop or request an alternate method if you are uncomfortable.

Ian

Pookiedookie Jun 20th 2011 4:31 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
One person that might know is your GP? Perhaps go and see your GP for a check up and have a talk about your upcoming medical with him, he can probably put your mind at rest. A U.S immigration lawyer might be able to set your mind at ease as well, they will have knowledege of the process for sure and an idea about possible appeals if you should be unsuccessful. Have you consulted a lawyer thus far?

krm Jun 20th 2011 4:33 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
No I haven't. I don't really want to start running around now because as someone pointed out, what will be will be. Just seeking some comfort from anyone who has practical experience of this process, if they are on this forum

Pookiedookie Jun 20th 2011 4:41 pm

Re: Medical for B2 Visa
 
Search through the old threads and if you find someone who has been in the same situation as you send them a PM and see if they respond to you ;)

Actually scrap that their are no postings about this for at least 2 years I looked


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