Manila visa denied
Jul 16th 2003, 7:12 pm
#1
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Manila visa denied
Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
investments ,mutual funds etc.."
Although they have substantial investments their income is from the
rental properties which is very clear at first glance of the tax forms.
Letter of investment? Theres "letters of credit...import
export...investment banking etc... ..now they do issue you"statements"
regarding investements.So here I am made it all the way to the very end
we have a govt. official that obviously has no clue about how to read
income tax forms has no idea what she is asking for,why or what to do
with these documents once they are in hand. The rules by which the
government plays by are ........yeah right so I'm done ,very tired of
doing this for nearly a full year just thought I'd let you people know
there's unhappy endings too.Theres a girl crying in the philippines
that shouldnt be while her interviewer goes home to her spouse every
evening I wonder why or how she got the job she now holds the job she
knows very little about but that effect so profoundly those whom are on
the receiving end of her decisions
bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
investments ,mutual funds etc.."
Although they have substantial investments their income is from the
rental properties which is very clear at first glance of the tax forms.
Letter of investment? Theres "letters of credit...import
export...investment banking etc... ..now they do issue you"statements"
regarding investements.So here I am made it all the way to the very end
we have a govt. official that obviously has no clue about how to read
income tax forms has no idea what she is asking for,why or what to do
with these documents once they are in hand. The rules by which the
government plays by are ........yeah right so I'm done ,very tired of
doing this for nearly a full year just thought I'd let you people know
there's unhappy endings too.Theres a girl crying in the philippines
that shouldnt be while her interviewer goes home to her spouse every
evening I wonder why or how she got the job she now holds the job she
knows very little about but that effect so profoundly those whom are on
the receiving end of her decisions
Jul 16th 2003, 7:28 pm
#2
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 69
May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
Jul 16th 2003, 7:39 pm
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Originally posted by snake
May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
and, yeah, I am so sorry to hear about your situation.
It is a really long way away. It must be devastating. :-\. I hope you get through this fast.
Jul 16th 2003, 8:12 pm
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Re: Manila visa denied
//+AEA-127.0.0.1 wrote:
> Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
> bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
> We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
> professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
> income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
> properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
> requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
> additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
> investments ,mutual funds etc.."
This sounds very odd.
> Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
> bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
> We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
> professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
> income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
> properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
> requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
> additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
> investments ,mutual funds etc.."
This sounds very odd.
Jul 16th 2003, 10:59 pm
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Re: Manila visa denied
snake wrote:
> May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain
> everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth
> not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
> --
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> May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain
> everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth
> not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Travel Is Fun, Inc.
13361 Ludlow, Huntington Woods MI 48070
Phone: 800 831-4080 or 248 546-3361 Fax: 248 398-7859
E-mail: [email protected]
Jul 17th 2003, 2:05 am
#6
Scott and Nanette
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 759
I am dealing with the Manila Embassy as well. I might be able to help, as we could share contact info. A few questions:
what kind of Visa are we talking about. I assume it is either a K1 or a K3, but you do not give enough info. Also, was it denied due to the I-134, or is it pending admin review?
Is your income less than the 125% ? If so, why? Something is odd, in that you have 100+ pages. All co-sponser needs is 3 years tax statments. If the government doesnt show the money being made, it is not made. Too many pages showing business income just makes it look like the books cooked. I assume it is not their business co-sponsoring them, but them individualy.
Scott
what kind of Visa are we talking about. I assume it is either a K1 or a K3, but you do not give enough info. Also, was it denied due to the I-134, or is it pending admin review?
Is your income less than the 125% ? If so, why? Something is odd, in that you have 100+ pages. All co-sponser needs is 3 years tax statments. If the government doesnt show the money being made, it is not made. Too many pages showing business income just makes it look like the books cooked. I assume it is not their business co-sponsoring them, but them individualy.
Scott
Jul 17th 2003, 2:20 am
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Re: Manila visa denied
ScottHenshaw wrote:
> I am dealing with the Manila Embassy as well. I might be able to help,
> as we could share contact info. A few questions:
>
>
>
> what kind of Visa are we talking about. I assume it is either a K1 or a
> K3, but you do not give enough info. Also, was it denied due to the I-
> 134, or is it pending admin review?
>
>
>
> Is your income less than the 125% ? If so, why? Something is odd, in
> that you have 100+ pages. All co-sponser needs is 3 years tax statments.
> If the government doesnt show the money being made, it is not made. Too
> many pages showing business income just makes it look like the books
> cooked. I assume it is not their business co-sponsoring them, but them
> individualy.
>
Take a look at 1040 Schedule C
There are instances where busines profit goes onto the individual's
personal tax return
> I am dealing with the Manila Embassy as well. I might be able to help,
> as we could share contact info. A few questions:
>
>
>
> what kind of Visa are we talking about. I assume it is either a K1 or a
> K3, but you do not give enough info. Also, was it denied due to the I-
> 134, or is it pending admin review?
>
>
>
> Is your income less than the 125% ? If so, why? Something is odd, in
> that you have 100+ pages. All co-sponser needs is 3 years tax statments.
> If the government doesnt show the money being made, it is not made. Too
> many pages showing business income just makes it look like the books
> cooked. I assume it is not their business co-sponsoring them, but them
> individualy.
>
Take a look at 1040 Schedule C
There are instances where busines profit goes onto the individual's
personal tax return
Jul 17th 2003, 2:39 am
#8
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Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 14,049
Former human being now known as //,
Or is the application simply pending you give them the information they want to see? All 3 things are quite different.
You may be making a mountain out of a molehill - a mountain of your own making because you're trying to give them what you want to give them rather than what they want you to give them.
Regards, JEff
Or is the application simply pending you give them the information they want to see? All 3 things are quite different.
You may be making a mountain out of a molehill - a mountain of your own making because you're trying to give them what you want to give them rather than what they want you to give them.
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by ScottHenshaw
... was it denied due to the I-134, or is it pending admin review?
...
Scott
... was it denied due to the I-134, or is it pending admin review?
...
Scott
Jul 17th 2003, 4:10 am
#9
Scott and Nanette
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 759
Jeffreyshy,
Could be the artist formley known as....
Something is goofey, I think we need more info to contribute...
Scott
Could be the artist formley known as....
Something is goofey, I think we need more info to contribute...
Scott
Jul 17th 2003, 6:45 am
#10
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 80
Re: Manila visa denied
Originally posted by //
Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
investments ,mutual funds etc.."
Although they have substantial investments their income is from the
rental properties which is very clear at first glance of the tax forms.
Letter of investment? Theres "letters of credit...import
export...investment banking etc... ..now they do issue you"statements"
regarding investements.So here I am made it all the way to the very end
we have a govt. official that obviously has no clue about how to read
income tax forms has no idea what she is asking for,why or what to do
with these documents once they are in hand. The rules by which the
government plays by are ........yeah right so I'm done ,very tired of
doing this for nearly a full year just thought I'd let you people know
there's unhappy endings too.Theres a girl crying in the philippines
that shouldnt be while her interviewer goes home to her spouse every
evening I wonder why or how she got the job she now holds the job she
knows very little about but that effect so profoundly those whom are on
the receiving end of her decisions
Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
investments ,mutual funds etc.."
Although they have substantial investments their income is from the
rental properties which is very clear at first glance of the tax forms.
Letter of investment? Theres "letters of credit...import
export...investment banking etc... ..now they do issue you"statements"
regarding investements.So here I am made it all the way to the very end
we have a govt. official that obviously has no clue about how to read
income tax forms has no idea what she is asking for,why or what to do
with these documents once they are in hand. The rules by which the
government plays by are ........yeah right so I'm done ,very tired of
doing this for nearly a full year just thought I'd let you people know
there's unhappy endings too.Theres a girl crying in the philippines
that shouldnt be while her interviewer goes home to her spouse every
evening I wonder why or how she got the job she now holds the job she
knows very little about but that effect so profoundly those whom are on
the receiving end of her decisions
this indeed is strange. The tax returns should not be such a big deal (100 pages?????). Sounds like something that could be cleared up easly, a lawyer may help
Jul 17th 2003, 1:17 pm
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Re: Manila visa denied
Perhaps I can shed some light on the housing rental business? It
operates taxwise on a Schedule C where a lot of things could be for
business but... examples buy a door for the rental unit and it is
installed on the owners home.. etc and the process is immensely
complicated and the object is to transfer as much expense to the
business ledger as possible to reduce income. Sometimes a lot of
money is churned while the 1040 doesn't show much income.
Suggest you skip the complicated Schedule C stuff and use ONLY the
1040, (which is a gross understatement anyway...)
Other possibilities are to declare the income.
operates taxwise on a Schedule C where a lot of things could be for
business but... examples buy a door for the rental unit and it is
installed on the owners home.. etc and the process is immensely
complicated and the object is to transfer as much expense to the
business ledger as possible to reduce income. Sometimes a lot of
money is churned while the 1040 doesn't show much income.
Suggest you skip the complicated Schedule C stuff and use ONLY the
1040, (which is a gross understatement anyway...)
Other possibilities are to declare the income.
Jul 17th 2003, 2:39 pm
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Re: Manila visa denied
//@127.0.0.1 wrote in message news:...
> Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
> bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
> We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
> professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
> income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
> properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
> requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
> additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
> investments ,mutual funds etc.."
> Although they have substantial investments their income is from the
> rental properties which is very clear at first glance of the tax forms.
> Letter of investment? Theres "letters of credit...import
> export...investment banking etc... ..now they do issue you"statements"
> regarding investements.So here I am made it all the way to the very end
> we have a govt. official that obviously has no clue about how to read
> income tax forms has no idea what she is asking for,why or what to do
> with these documents once they are in hand. The rules by which the
> government plays by are ........yeah right so I'm done ,very tired of
> doing this for nearly a full year just thought I'd let you people know
> there's unhappy endings too.Theres a girl crying in the philippines
> that shouldnt be while her interviewer goes home to her spouse every
> evening I wonder why or how she got the job she now holds the job she
> knows very little about but that effect so profoundly those whom are on
> the receiving end of her decisions
yes there are bad endings...I think I am headed for one. And bad
meaning we are not living together, but that in now way means I am
giving him up, loving him less or leaving my marriage.
We cant imagine loving anyone else....and if this is all we have until
laws/rules change? Then I guess we have a long distance marriage.
I do know, I cant keep asking him to beat his head against the wall
and be scrutinized is such an unfair manner, get his hopes up only to
knock him down and kick his gut.
Good luck to you...dont stop fighting...call your congressman, hire an
attorney and go there to be with her and help her thru the filing
process.
Kelly & John
> Parents are cosponsors.They are in the apartment rental
> bussiness....their income is from the rents received from their units.
> We provided 3 years income tax filings amounting to over 300 pages
> professionally done very complete and detailed. If the amount of their
> income were in question as to qualify then their assets(rental
> properties) which have no mortgages outstanding meets the minimum asset
> requirement several times over. My fianc+iOA-was denied her visa pending
> additional documents to "substantiate their income ........letter of
> investments ,mutual funds etc.."
> Although they have substantial investments their income is from the
> rental properties which is very clear at first glance of the tax forms.
> Letter of investment? Theres "letters of credit...import
> export...investment banking etc... ..now they do issue you"statements"
> regarding investements.So here I am made it all the way to the very end
> we have a govt. official that obviously has no clue about how to read
> income tax forms has no idea what she is asking for,why or what to do
> with these documents once they are in hand. The rules by which the
> government plays by are ........yeah right so I'm done ,very tired of
> doing this for nearly a full year just thought I'd let you people know
> there's unhappy endings too.Theres a girl crying in the philippines
> that shouldnt be while her interviewer goes home to her spouse every
> evening I wonder why or how she got the job she now holds the job she
> knows very little about but that effect so profoundly those whom are on
> the receiving end of her decisions
yes there are bad endings...I think I am headed for one. And bad
meaning we are not living together, but that in now way means I am
giving him up, loving him less or leaving my marriage.
We cant imagine loving anyone else....and if this is all we have until
laws/rules change? Then I guess we have a long distance marriage.
I do know, I cant keep asking him to beat his head against the wall
and be scrutinized is such an unfair manner, get his hopes up only to
knock him down and kick his gut.
Good luck to you...dont stop fighting...call your congressman, hire an
attorney and go there to be with her and help her thru the filing
process.
Kelly & John
Jul 17th 2003, 4:17 pm
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Re: Manila visa denied
alzerom wrote:
> Perhaps I can shed some light on the housing rental business? It
> operates taxwise on a Schedule C where a lot of things could be for
> business but... examples buy a door for the rental unit and it is
> installed on the owners home.. etc and the process is immensely
> complicated and the object is to transfer as much expense to the
> business ledger as possible to reduce income. Sometimes a lot of
> money is churned while the 1040 doesn't show much income.
>
> Suggest you skip the complicated Schedule C stuff and use ONLY the
> 1040, (which is a gross understatement anyway...)
>
> Other possibilities are to declare the income.
I thought the consulate required the full 1040. That would include the
schedules.
> Perhaps I can shed some light on the housing rental business? It
> operates taxwise on a Schedule C where a lot of things could be for
> business but... examples buy a door for the rental unit and it is
> installed on the owners home.. etc and the process is immensely
> complicated and the object is to transfer as much expense to the
> business ledger as possible to reduce income. Sometimes a lot of
> money is churned while the 1040 doesn't show much income.
>
> Suggest you skip the complicated Schedule C stuff and use ONLY the
> 1040, (which is a gross understatement anyway...)
>
> Other possibilities are to declare the income.
I thought the consulate required the full 1040. That would include the
schedules.
Jul 22nd 2003, 3:08 am
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Re: Manila visa denied
I heard the same thing from Bangkok.
Your presence does mean alot of things. First, they must be able to
understand what your fiance is saying. Then you are the one who speak
English and know how to deal the American way. So, some of those import
Embassy staffs would not second guess your petition.
"snake" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain
> everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth
> not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Your presence does mean alot of things. First, they must be able to
understand what your fiance is saying. Then you are the one who speak
English and know how to deal the American way. So, some of those import
Embassy staffs would not second guess your petition.
"snake" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> May advice would be to go with her on her next interview to explain
> everything. The cost of the plane ticket is probably definitely worth
> not having to deal with the delay and aggravation.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
